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  • [01:16:47] <cwillu_at_work> how is dss a pain to configure?
  • [01:16:59] <cwillu_at_work> gotta be the easiest thing since xrandr 1.2
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  • [01:37:13] <torusle> hey folks.. month ago I've seen a beagleboard like board that features a TI chip and a camera.. Does anyone remember the name of it?
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  • [01:49:30] <xxiao> torusle: http://designsomething.org/leopardboard/default.aspx ?
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  • [02:14:41] <djlewis> well I thought I was here ofr the past hour but alas, not.
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  • [03:33:55] <denix0> koen: I still don't see the x-load/u-boot repos being populated...
  • [03:34:14] <brendans> I ran into an interesting situation yesterday when compiling pygtk (via Gentoo ebuild)
  • [03:34:39] <brendans> The 256 MB of onboard memory wasn't actually sufficient to get through the build
  • [03:35:01] <brendans> luckily I had a swap partition on my card, "just in case", that I don't normally mount
  • [03:35:10] <brendans> so I was able to activate that for 5 minutes of use
  • [03:35:14] <cwillu_at_work> brendans, I always have a swap mounted :)
  • [03:35:35] <cwillu_at_work> swap file on a compressed btrfs
  • [03:35:57] <brendans> Hmmm... My main concern is wear and tear on the SD card
  • [03:36:08] <cwillu_at_work> also mounted with ssd-spread for that reason
  • [03:36:11] <brendans> although the newer cards have better write leveling, I suppose
  • [03:36:16] <brendans> ah, interesting
  • [03:38:26] <brendans> is that a software write-leveling process? I'm not familiar with ssd-spread
  • [03:51:24] <cwillu_at_work> ssd-spread is a btrfs thing
  • [03:51:50] <cwillu_at_work> ssd turns on ssd optimizations, ssd-spread turns on 'oh, you're using a stupid ssd' optimizations
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  • [04:14:55] <brendans> ah, cool, thanks cwillu_at_work
  • [04:15:25] <brendans> from what I've read, it looks like I can do an upgrade to btrfs directly from ext3... perhaps it's not a bad idea
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  • [05:01:43] <cwillu_at_work> brendans, I wouldn't say it's a _great_ idea :p
  • [05:01:54] <cwillu_at_work> although I've been doing it for a while now
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  • [05:59:11] <Crofton> urg
  • [06:13:41] <cwillu_at_work> urg?
  • [06:14:15] <av500> URG!
  • [06:14:36] <cwillu_at_work> .gru
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  • [07:24:18] <kblin> morning folks
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  • [07:38:29] <av500> gm
  • [07:39:42] <kblin> hm, I wonder if that trendnet adapter is shot or if this really is a kernel problem
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  • [09:58:06] <axlcorp> hi
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  • [10:00:00] <mobidev> hi to all
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  • [10:20:46] <GeneralStupid> Hi, my SD Card is damages
  • [10:20:48] <GeneralStupid> damaged
  • [10:20:53] <av500> buy new one
  • [10:21:04] <GeneralStupid> is there a way to boot from a Software RAID ?
  • [10:21:07] * av500 has lots of dead sd cardss
  • [10:21:21] <av500> GeneralStupid: a SW raid made of damaged sd cards?
  • [10:21:41] <GeneralStupid> av500: SD Cards suck... i won a beagle board and im using 2 USB HardDisks with md Raid
  • [10:21:46] <GeneralStupid> as fileserver
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  • [10:49:53] <buZz> GeneralStupid: sw raid1 can be made bootable
  • [10:50:02] <buZz> just install the bootloader on both parts
  • [10:50:11] <av500> or just boot from one drive
  • [10:50:14] <av500> boot partition
  • [10:50:22] <av500> then use raid on both
  • [10:50:23] <buZz> yeah, or boot from flash ;)
  • [10:50:34] <av500> yep
  • [10:51:01] * buZz is looking into running his IGEPv2 from a LM2596
  • [10:51:32] <buZz> stupidly i ordered the TO-263 version instead of the TO-220 :(
  • [10:52:55] <GeneralStupid> but flash , i think it will be damaged again
  • [10:53:00] <GeneralStupid> after a few months
  • [10:53:04] <av500> why?
  • [10:53:29] <buZz> reading from flash doesn't wear it out
  • [10:53:31] <GeneralStupid> i read about sd cards, and the limited write
  • [10:54:02] <GeneralStupid> shit, i think i shoud write /var/log on my disks ?
  • [10:54:25] <av500> or to /dev/null
  • [10:54:27] <av500> or /tmp
  • [10:54:32] <buZz> or tmpfs ;)
  • [10:57:00] <GeneralStupid> Ok, can you tell me what i need to think about using debian and SD Cards ?
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  • [10:57:54] <GeneralStupid> using another file system ?
  • [10:59:15] <buZz> i have gentoo running on ext2 on a SD
  • [11:03:48] <av500> koen: florian: openembedded or OpenEmbedded?
  • [11:04:20] * _koen_ has no strong opinion on that
  • [11:05:13] <av500> well, then I will call it "ArmstrongImage".... :P
  • [11:05:35] <florian> av500: I'd use the camel case one.
  • [11:05:53] <av500> k
  • [11:05:54] <av500> sold!
  • [11:07:34] <av500> wtf: "MeeGo is an open source project created by merging the Moblin and Maemo software platforms"
  • [11:07:45] <av500> them must be running scared....
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  • [11:16:56] <_koen_> av500: gtk, qt and efl in one, sounds familiar
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  • [11:17:10] <av500> gtk? efl?
  • [11:17:17] <av500> I read qt....
  • [11:22:30] <av500> ah, right: "GTK and Clutter are also included for application compatibility...."
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  • [11:32:39] <sharief> Hello
  • [11:32:54] <sharief> Can anyone help me in cross compiling for OMAP processor
  • [11:33:50] <sharief> Can anyone help me?
  • [11:34:14] <sharief> i cant compile zlib for ARM processor
  • [11:34:44] <sharief> i am getting this error "cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mfloat-abi=softfp" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mfpu=neon" "
  • [11:35:24] <av500> using that toolchain?
  • [11:36:30] <sharief> yes i am using codesourcery toolchain
  • [11:36:33] * _koen_ suggests using openembedded
  • [11:36:49] <sharief> i am getting these error only for thos zlib
  • [11:37:01] <sharief> all other things are compiled correctly
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  • [11:40:36] <sharief> i dont know what will be the problem
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  • [11:42:01] <sharief> i think i might be using gcc instaed of ARM processor
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  • [11:42:25] <sharief> it might be using gcc instead of ARM toolchain
  • [11:45:01] <DesktopMa> though your arm toolchain is also gcc?
  • [11:46:24] <sharief> no
  • [11:46:40] <sharief> it is "arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc"
  • [11:48:05] <av500> sharief: that you can see easily from the command line that gives the error
  • [11:48:19] <sharief> yes
  • [11:48:41] <sharief> the error is "emulation options: No emulation specific options arm-none-linux-gnueabi-ar: supported targets: elf32-littlearm elf32-bigarm elf32-little elf32-big srec symbolsrec verilog tekhex binary ihex make: *** [libz.a] Error 1 "
  • [11:48:55] <sharief> dont know what is it?
  • [11:49:03] <sharief> i googles for thias but i didnt find it
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  • [11:51:31] <buZz> seems like its a wrong toolchain
  • [11:51:38] <sharief> Actuallu what is this "emulation option"
  • [11:52:04] <sharief> no i am using this toolchain for compiling all the file from last 3 months
  • [11:52:16] <buZz> oh, bizar
  • [11:52:16] <sharief> till now it is working file
  • [11:52:28] <sharief> even in others files
  • [11:52:40] <sharief> i had this problem only in this file
  • [11:55:52] <sharief> how to change this emulation option?
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  • [12:18:27] <sharief> can anybody tell me why we are using the option AR=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-ar?
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  • [13:36:50] <_koen_> sakoman_, XorA: http://arago-project.org/git/projects/?p=x-load-omap3.git;a=summary
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  • [14:04:35] <sharief> i have some problems in cross compiling
  • [14:04:39] <sharief> can anyone help me
  • [14:05:01] <sharief> This is the error "configure: error: Could not find expat.h, check config.log for failed attempts "
  • [14:05:16] <sharief> but i have that header file in correct path
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  • [14:12:55] <XorA> _koen_: is that official upstream now?
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  • [14:19:32] <_koen_> XorA: it is what catalog PSP in india are treating as upstream
  • [14:20:00] <_koen_> XorA: it removes the links to uboot and has some of the unbreak-me patches sakoman_ did for overo
  • [14:20:33] <XorA> cool
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  • [14:27:24] <mod1> hi???I'm trying to get ubuntu to boot, so first I'm trying to extract the rootfs to the sd card
  • [14:27:36] <mod1> but it is failing misserable, using sudo tar xfp Desktop/armel-rootfs-201002150238.tgz -C /Volumes/Linux
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  • [14:27:51] <mod1> e.g. Can't create ???.. Read-only file system
  • [14:28:01] <mod1> or ./dev/tty1: Can't create 'dev/tty1': Operation not supported
  • [14:28:16] <mod1> ./usr/bin/psfaddtable: Can't set user=0/group=0 for usr/bin/psfaddtable: No such file or directoryCan't set permissions to 0777
  • [14:28:17] <mod1> and so on
  • [14:28:23] <mod1> any idea what I'm doing wrong?
  • [14:29:48] <ogra> how is /Volumes/Linux mounted ?
  • [14:31:08] <sharief> mod1, use tar -xvf arm*
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  • [14:33:07] <mod1> @sharief: now it is running???let's see
  • [14:33:16] <mod1> would xfp be wrong?
  • [14:33:38] <sharief> sorry, That i didnt try.
  • [14:33:39] <mod1> @ogra: /dev/disk1s2 on /Volumes/Linux (ufsd_ExtFS, local)
  • [14:34:33] <ogra> p tries to preseve ownership, if that would be automounted by i.e. gvfs/nautilus that can get you odd results
  • [14:36:12] <mod1> yeah, makes sense, as it is automounted by mac os finder
  • [14:36:18] <ogra> ah
  • [14:36:32] <ogra> i also use -xzvf usually btw ...
  • [14:36:42] <mod1> running now using xvf, let's see
  • [14:36:55] * mod1 would love to see beagleboard booting linux soon :-)
  • [14:37:12] <sharief> mod1, it works fine for me
  • [14:37:32] <mod1> how about stuff like this now :
  • [14:37:33] <mod1> x ./lib/udev/devices/ppp: Can't create 'lib/udev/devices/ppp': Operation not supported
  • [14:38:04] <mod1> x ./dev/ram0: Can't create 'dev/ram0': Operation not supported
  • [14:38:07] <mod1> and so on :-(
  • [14:38:18] <mod1> x ./var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/DejaVuSerifCondensed-BoldItalic.ttf: Can't create 'var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/DejaVuSerifCondensed-BoldItalic.ttf': Read-only file system
  • [14:38:26] <sharief> mod1, what you are trying to first?
  • [14:38:49] <mod1> just extracting ubuntu root stuff
  • [14:39:14] <sharief> ok then
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  • [14:40:29] <sharief> mod1,still extracting?
  • [14:40:47] <mod1> no, I canceld it
  • [14:41:03] <mod1> trying to mount manually and then trying again
  • [14:41:29] <sharief> yes you have to mount manually
  • [14:41:35] <ogra> btw, silly question but did you check the little lock switch on your SD ?
  • [14:41:51] <mod1> yes, most of the files extract perfectly fine
  • [14:42:00] <mod1> and I can copy other stuff on it as well
  • [14:42:07] <ogra> ok
  • [14:42:20] <sharief> fine
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  • [14:42:57] <sharief> ogra, he may be using the perfect thing
  • [14:43:07] <sharief> i mean the lock
  • [14:43:20] <rcn-ee> mod1, what partition type is that?
  • [14:43:48] <mod1> ext3
  • [14:44:49] <rcn-ee> mod1, what does 'mount' return for it?
  • [14:46:09] <av500> http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/texas-instruments-introduces-arm-based-omap-4-soc-blaze-develop/
  • [14:46:12] * _koen_ suspects OSD issues
  • [14:47:21] <_koen_> OSX, that is
  • [14:47:54] <ogra> yeah, but manual mounting should help here
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  • [14:48:06] <buZz> av500: funny that they immediatly put flash on the screenshot
  • [14:48:22] <buZz> or well, something that looks like it
  • [14:50:47] <mod1> hm, how can I manually mount it???.I guess it needs to use ufsd_ExtFS driver
  • [14:51:51] <mod1> ok, mounted manually using mount_ufsd_ExtFS /dev/disk1s2 /Volumes/Linux
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  • [14:55:57] <mod1> hm, same issues :-(
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  • [14:59:40] <rcn-ee> not sure mod1, the only other person i know with osx, used a vmware virtual linux machine to do it...
  • [15:00:18] <mod1> yeah, I used an virtualbox virtual linux
  • [15:00:30] <mod1> but I can't get it to work to talk to my sd card reader
  • [15:01:05] <rcn-ee> same here, haven't got their usb driver to work on lucid...
  • [15:01:12] <cwillu_at_work> mod1, might just be a crappy reader; the one built on the front of my computer goes away if I try to transfer more than a couple megs at a time, while the cheap usb adapter I have works perfectly
  • [15:01:47] <cwillu_at_work> mod1, also, which version of virtualbox are you using?
  • [15:02:02] <cwillu_at_work> (community edition doesn't have usb passthrough, although it doesn't sound like that's your problem)
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  • [15:02:16] <cwillu_at_work> also, good-morning rcn-ee :)
  • [15:02:59] <rcn-ee> morning cwillu_at_work, was their anything else in the pm defconfig you were using?
  • [15:03:28] <cwillu_at_work> rcn-ee, not that I know of; haven't checked any of your recent uploads though
  • [15:03:44] <cwillu_at_work> things are working well enough that I can actually get my _actual_ work done :)
  • [15:04:03] <rcn-ee> well that's not good.. ;)
  • [15:04:06] <cwillu_at_work> heh
  • [15:04:16] <cwillu_at_work> don't worry, I'm sure something will break ehci soon enough :p
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  • [15:05:15] <GeneralStupid> Hi, is uboot able to boot from an USB - md Software Rad ?
  • [15:05:19] <GeneralStupid> Raid , sorry
  • [15:05:24] <cwillu_at_work> no
  • [15:05:28] <cwillu_at_work> well
  • [15:05:29] <cwillu_at_work> maybe
  • [15:05:42] <GeneralStupid> ;)
  • [15:05:50] <cwillu_at_work> you need to have the kernel image accessible, given that, it might just be a matter of having the right bootargs
  • [15:05:51] <GeneralStupid> Ok, maybe. How ?
  • [15:06:26] <cwillu_at_work> the easiest way would probably be to use an initramfs as well on fat, giving you a nice comfy userspace to set things up before you pivot to the real md root
  • [15:06:37] <cwillu_at_work> I just use btrfs raid myself :p
  • [15:07:07] <buZz> it seemed my uboot has ext2 support, is this possible?
  • [15:07:08] <cwillu_at_work> actually, I'm not even using btrfs' raid yet on sd, just on my server
  • [15:07:21] <buZz> would save me from having the fat partition
  • [15:07:36] <cwillu_at_work> buZz, I don't think it does, but I could be wrong
  • [15:07:45] <rcn-ee> buZz, uboot's ext support has been broken for awhile... no one has really fixed it yet from what i can tell...
  • [15:07:53] <cwillu_at_work> I haven't slept in a while
  • [15:07:57] <GeneralStupid> buZz: my uBoot is stored on a FAT partition and it loads an ext2 partition
  • [15:08:37] <GeneralStupid> cwillu_at_work: Ok, what should i done know ?
  • [15:09:02] <GeneralStupid> cwillu_at_work: i needed a small partition which loads an linux kernel which loads the MD array and the userland ?
  • [15:10:04] <cwillu_at_work> GeneralStupid, I'd actually suggest practising on a vm or a regular x86 computer; once you've got things working there from a separate /boot, it should be straightforward to get things working on beagle
  • [15:10:11] <GeneralStupid> my sd card is broken cause of the usage... So i want SD only for boot and i would use read only
  • [15:10:23] <cwillu_at_work> ugh, just buy another one :p
  • [15:10:28] <cwillu_at_work> they're like ten bucks
  • [15:11:11] <GeneralStupid> cwillu_at_work: yeah, but i want the system keep running, and i dont want to buy every half year a new one
  • [15:11:14] <cwillu_at_work> I mean, I could work out exactly how to do it for you, and had I slept in the last 20 hours I probably would just for the exercise, but this is all fairly straightforward application of the documentation :)
  • [15:11:23] <cwillu_at_work> GeneralStupid, so use a decent filesystem :)
  • [15:11:30] <dougztr> GeneralStupid: I have a USB hdd hooked to my beagle with /var /home swap and some other stuff on the hdd
  • [15:11:40] <cwillu_at_work> GeneralStupid, don't use a journal, don't use swap
  • [15:11:41] <GeneralStupid> i have swap on hdd
  • [15:12:03] <cwillu_at_work> and make sure you don't try to run a system with less than 10% disk free
  • [15:12:17] <cwillu_at_work> an sd card needs some room to play with in order to wear level
  • [15:12:22] <GeneralStupid> i will try to make tmp in tmpfs and using the busybox logrotate ...
  • [15:12:39] <cwillu_at_work> really, just make sure you've got a gig or so free on the card
  • [15:13:16] * cwillu_at_work blinks long and hard...
  • [15:13:20] <cwillu_at_work> time for bed, m'thinks
  • [15:13:34] <GeneralStupid> cwillu_at_work: thx, and good night :)
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  • [15:21:47] <KosiNuss> is it normal, that /var/log is cleaned on every boot? i run angstrom.
  • [15:22:15] <cwillu_at_work> KosiNuss, if it's on a tmpfs, yes
  • [15:23:22] <KosiNuss> cwillu_at_work: "mount" says its on rootfs
  • [15:24:21] <cwillu_at_work> KosiNuss, could also be if they simply wipe it on boot :p
  • [15:24:31] <cwillu_at_work> I'm just speculating, I don't use angstrom myself
  • [15:25:56] <ogra> rcn-ee, oh, really ? i use the upstream ext2 support in my imx51 images and it works fine
  • [15:26:09] <KosiNuss> mmh, for instance /var/www/ won't be deleted on boot, only /var/log/.
  • [15:39:23] <sakoman_> _koen_: I get an error when trying to clone the arago x-load-omap3 repo
  • [15:39:47] <sakoman_> http seems to work
  • [15:40:02] <_koen_> sakoman_: denix0 is the admin for that server :)
  • [15:40:20] <sakoman_> _koen_: thanks :-)
  • [15:40:58] <sakoman_> denix0: I get an error when trying to clone the arago x-load-omap3 repo using git protocol, http works
  • [15:41:16] <sakoman_> and, no, I don't have firewall issues with the got port :-)
  • [15:41:19] <sakoman_> git
  • [15:44:05] <_koen_> sakoman_: I pushed the new udev for angstrom this weekend, so we can now build a recent networkmanager :)
  • [15:44:40] <sakoman_> _koen_: excellent!
  • [15:45:17] * _koen_ spent the rest of the weekend porting sakoman patches to linux-omap-2.6.32-psp
  • [15:46:36] <sakoman_> _koen_: its just about time to start work on 2.6.33
  • [15:46:58] <sakoman_> _koen_: did you see the u-boot patches too?
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  • [15:47:26] <_koen_> sakoman_: I saw your uboot patches, haven't tried them yet
  • [15:47:40] <sakoman_> still have to add the beagle eeprom code, but the initial Overo eeprom stuff is working and committed
  • [15:48:13] <sakoman_> I have some x-load patches too, once I can clone the arago x-load
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  • [16:00:34] <rcn-ee> ogra, ext2 also worked on my ngw, does freescale have any special u-boot patches for the imx51 or is mainline u-boot? i last tried 2009.08 with reading a ext3 partition on the beagle..
  • [16:00:58] <ogra> its a lot of patches on top of the current upstream
  • [16:01:21] <ogra> but none of them touch filesystem code
  • [16:01:34] <ogra> so just enabling ext2 makes it work for me
  • [16:02:15] <rcn-ee> okay, i'll retest, with the latest again.. it would be nice to only have one partition, specially with transitioning to initramfs...
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  • [16:10:52] <ogra> rcn-ee, btw, sis you see http://www.linuxuk.org/2010/02/the-new-ui-for-arm-based-ubuntu-devices/ ?
  • [16:12:05] <rcn-ee> that looks very cool ogra..
  • [16:12:22] <ogra> its not only looking cool, its even usable :)
  • [16:12:45] <ogra> overcoming all the clutter mess :)
  • [16:14:34] <_koen_> opkg install netbook-launcher-efl :)
  • [16:14:38] <ogra> hehe
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  • [16:28:36] <kblin> rcn-ee: ok, I still have stability problems with usb ethernet, I've just switched adapters to make sure it's not a hardware problem I'm running into
  • [16:30:32] <rcn-ee> kblin, which usb adapter where you using? moschip? (i had to swith all mine from moschip to asix, as the moschip ones basicly died after a full year of use..)
  • [16:31:23] <kblin> no, the one I had been using was a trendnet tu2-et100 adapter with an asix chipset
  • [16:31:44] <kblin> the one I'm using right now is moschip-based
  • [16:32:04] <rcn-ee> sweet, the tu2-et100's are what i just switched too...
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  • [16:32:39] <rcn-ee> under what conditions is it becoming unstable... high load? hight transfer?
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  • [16:33:12] <kblin> no idea, actually. it seems to die at night, usually, that's the only pattern I've seen so far..
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  • [16:33:45] <kblin> the box it's running on is running a web server, so I think it does get hit by spiders at night
  • [16:34:07] <kblin> thinking of it, let me see if the web server logs confirm this
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  • [16:35:41] <rcn-ee> kblin, weird.. is this on the 2.6.32 branch? the only one i haven't really tested enough is: 2.6.32.8-x8.1 (enabled pm)
  • [16:36:54] <kblin> rcn-ee: that box is running now 2.6.32.7-x7.1
  • [16:37:16] <kblin> rcn-ee: it was running 2.6.31.5-x5.3 before
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  • [16:39:48] <rcn-ee> okay, that one is safe, i'd be interested in anything the log show, too see if we can replicate it...
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  • [16:40:35] <kblin> funny thing is that I have another box that's proxying the web traffic, also with an asix chipset usb ethernet dongle, and that's working fine
  • [16:41:19] <kblin> if the moschip adapter works fine, I'll try switching the asix adapters around to see if the actual system makes the difference
  • [16:42:58] <kblin> man, ubuntu 9.10 seems to have some sort of bug parsing IPv6 addresses sometimes
  • [16:45:21] <kblin> rcn-ee: ok, nothing in the server logs that seems to correlate with last night's outage
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  • [16:49:10] <rcn-ee> kblin, is it pretty consistent every night? If it is I'd log in thru the serial port and leave that terminal open over night, any error's should be dumped to the terminal...
  • [16:50:34] <kblin> rcn-ee: well, it failed yesterday and today, it was fine for all of last week
  • [16:51:13] <kblin> looking at the syslog, it failed around 6am these two days
  • [16:54:24] <kblin> http://pastey.net/133040 and http://pastey.net/133041 are the two backtraces
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  • [16:55:42] <rcn-ee> ogra, here's the beagle with u-boot 2009.11 trying to access a ext2... http://pastebin.com/m29e8bc96
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  • [16:58:20] <denix0> sakoman_: git should be fixed now - had some permissions messed up, sorry
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  • [17:00:44] <rcn-ee> kblin, looks like that might be a regression, still digging thru the results... http://www.google.com/search?q=net%2Fsched%2Fsch_generic.c%3A261+dev_watchdog&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
  • [17:01:19] <sakoman_> denix0: yes, it is working now. thanks!
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  • [17:11:11] <_koen_> rcranetx: I just read your bug press release :)
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  • [18:00:06] <Crofton> sakoman_, is there an easy way to play with the EEPROM from the command line?
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  • [18:07:03] <sakoman_> Crofton: yes, what do you want to do?
  • [18:07:17] <av500> define pinmux, eh? :)
  • [18:07:17] <Crofton> see if the eeprom works :)
  • [18:07:31] <Crofton> hopefully the pinmux for that is already set :)
  • [18:07:47] <sakoman_> Crofton: of course it is!
  • [18:08:03] <sakoman_> you can use the standard i2c commands that are in the console image
  • [18:08:26] <sakoman_> if you want to do things like probe or read or write a single eeprom location'
  • [18:08:48] <sakoman_> there are also 3 eeprom specific utilities in the console image
  • [18:09:13] <Crofton> hmm
  • [18:09:20] <sakoman_> all begin with eepro, so you can use command tab completion to find them
  • [18:09:24] <Crofton> I'll need to add these to what I have
  • [18:09:52] <Crofton> in the annoying part, I appear to have not brought my ethernet dongles
  • [18:10:01] <sakoman_> and I will be adding a utility to write a standard expansion eeprom format in the next day or so
  • [18:10:31] <sakoman_> Crofton: I'm sure Frys will have some in stock
  • [18:10:40] <Crofton> yeah
  • [18:10:47] <Crofton> there may already be some here
  • [18:11:30] <sakoman_> you can look in the omap3-console-image to see what packages to add for the i2c stuff
  • [18:12:32] <sakoman_> IIRC, the i2ctools package in the overo repo will add all of them
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  • [18:31:59] <Crofton> bummer
  • [18:32:12] <Crofton> the third sd card interface does not just work :)
  • [18:32:56] <av500> no raid5....
  • [18:33:07] <Crofton> heh
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  • [18:38:29] <Hoonse> hi guys
  • [18:38:47] <av500> servus
  • [18:39:04] <Hoonse> servus klings sehr deutsch oder ??sterreichisch=!
  • [18:39:08] <Hoonse> =)
  • [18:39:23] <av500> ~jds@80-121-95-228.adsl.highway.telekom.at ...
  • [18:39:38] <Hoonse> hmmm verdammt =)
  • [18:39:50] <Hoonse> habe die ehre =)
  • [18:41:22] <Hoonse> when i want to talk to a serial device wich uses a "0 - 5V logic" do i need a level shifter?
  • [18:41:40] <av500> yes
  • [18:42:47] <Hoonse> wich "logic" uses the beagle board?
  • [18:43:55] <av500> 1.8v mostly
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  • [18:44:58] <Hoonse> oh ok thanks. i got another question. the serial port on the beagle has pins for rx tx and gnd the port on my device puts out +5V too but i dont have to connect this right?
  • [18:45:06] <ds2> morning
  • [18:45:16] <mru> morning ds2
  • [18:45:19] <Hoonse> hi
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  • [19:23:52] <sakoman_> Crofton: what are the symptoms of your 3rd SD issue?
  • [19:24:10] <Crofton> nothing happens when I insert the card
  • [19:24:16] <ds2> 3rd SD?
  • [19:24:22] <Crofton> do you know if it should work
  • [19:24:27] <ds2> what board brings out the third SD?
  • [19:24:33] <Crofton> the mmc interface exposed on the overo expansion
  • [19:24:52] <ds2> ah
  • [19:25:16] <sakoman_> Crofton: did you update the overo board file to add the 3rd SD support?
  • [19:25:27] <Crofton> no :)
  • [19:25:33] <Crofton> we just did a quick check
  • [19:25:37] <ds2> hahahaha
  • [19:25:37] <sakoman_> that might explain it :-)
  • [19:26:05] <sakoman_> Crofton: I know at least a couple of consultants who can help you do that ;-)
  • [19:26:10] <Crofton> rofl
  • [19:26:18] <sakoman_> or if you ask really nice . . .
  • [19:26:24] <ds2> Crofton: are you setup to make it variable voltage?
  • [19:28:02] <Crofton> no
  • [19:28:11] <Crofton> well, I'd have to look
  • [19:28:28] <Crofton> I think there is an interface chip, not sure about it's feature set
  • [19:28:39] <ds2> is that just a level shifter?
  • [19:29:04] <Crofton> txs0206
  • [19:29:10] <ds2> sounds like it
  • [19:31:48] <eFfeM> koen, saw your commit with eee701 xfce46-image changes; actually we have been discussing this briefly on #oe today as well and we were thinking that the extensions dependency should probably go to xf86-video-intel_2.10.0.bb, as the intel 2.10.0 driver requires these (or at least ...extensions-dri)
  • [19:31:51] <ds2> haven't heard of anyone doing a full feature secondary SD/MMC slot
  • [19:32:19] <_koen_> eFfeM: talk is cheap :)
  • [19:33:09] <eFfeM> koen the 2.10.0 intel driver requires KMS and does not work without extensions-dri (and maybe dri2 and gfx)
  • [19:33:25] <_koen_> I agree with the assertion
  • [19:33:32] <eFfeM> (btw could not work on it earlier. work ;-)
  • [19:34:08] <eFfeM> so? move from eee701.conf to xf86-video-intel_2.10.0.bb ?
  • [19:34:19] <_koen_> it's just that the phrase "we talked about it in #oe and decided <foo>" followed by doing nothing tends to bring up red flags for me
  • [19:34:47] <av500> _koen_: 1080p on beagle, you happen to have a timing handy?
  • [19:35:20] <_koen_> av500: omapfb.mode=dvi:1920x1080MR-24@24
  • [19:35:26] <_koen_> av500: my TV accepts that
  • [19:35:30] <eFfeM> eh, actually at that time I was not behind my development system so could not actually do it/test it, the reason i'm bringing it up before changing things was because I noticed you also looked at it
  • [19:35:50] <_koen_> eFfeM: the move is fine by me (saves me from fixing other machines)
  • [19:35:56] <eFfeM> it was just a thing on my todo list
  • [19:35:58] <eFfeM> will do
  • [19:36:29] <av500> _koen_: yes, for newfangled kernels :) u know if that is a modedb line or calculated by dss?
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  • [19:38:34] <_koen_> av500: I don't
  • [19:38:54] <av500> k
  • [19:39:38] <dougztr> The "M" would indicate its calculated
  • [19:44:13] <eFfeM> is PE an extension to PR ? the xorg recipes define PE but I can't seem to find where it is used, guess I am missing something
  • [19:46:36] <Crofton> I'm ssh;d into my over and in insert mode the arrow keys are making A's insert, not moving cursor
  • [19:46:44] <Crofton> works in non-insert mode ...
  • [19:48:01] <mru> insert mode where? vi?
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  • [19:48:16] <Crofton> vi
  • [19:48:19] <mru> which vi?
  • [19:48:23] <Crofton> heh
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  • [19:48:36] <Crofton> vim
  • [19:48:40] <mru> $TERM?
  • [19:48:44] <_koen_> Crofton: busybox vi emulates old-style vi/vim-tiny
  • [19:48:59] <eFfeM> nevermind, i'll bump PR
  • [19:49:08] <Crofton> xterm
  • [19:49:35] <mru> running in xterm and TERM=xterm on remote system?
  • [19:49:39] <mru> and full vim?
  • [19:49:48] <Crofton> trying to figure that out now
  • [19:49:56] <Crofton> vi is symlinked to vim
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  • [19:50:26] <Crofton> yeah, should be full vim
  • [19:50:45] <mru> works for me (tm)
  • [19:51:22] <Crofton> it used to work for me (tm)
  • [19:51:35] <mru> that's ymmv (tm)
  • [19:52:04] <av500> iutwfm
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  • [20:01:48] <Crofton> um
  • [20:01:58] <Crofton> does the gpmc need any muxing?
  • [20:02:33] <av500> trm?
  • [20:04:29] <ds2> use the vi keys
  • [20:04:35] <ds2> hjkl
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  • [20:15:46] <sakoman_> Crofton: you shouldn't need any mux changes
  • [20:16:06] <sakoman_> things are already set up for the ethernet chips so you should be good to go
  • [20:17:02] <_koen_> sakoman_: are your xload patches going to x-load-omap3 on gitorious?
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  • [20:17:23] <sakoman_> _koen_: one is there already
  • [20:17:45] <_koen_> sakoman_: from last week, right?
  • [20:17:46] <Crofton> I am having git issues :)
  • [20:17:57] <Crofton> to many machines and repos
  • [20:19:26] <sakoman_> _koen_: yes
  • [20:20:14] <sakoman_> I plan to do a trial merge with the arago x-load to see if it is missing anything
  • [20:20:38] <sakoman_> I do a branch then with any patches that might be needed for arago
  • [20:23:26] <sakoman_> _koen_: I don't think that my patch from last week will cleanly apply to the arago version
  • [20:24:21] <_koen_> sakoman_: the arago one wasn't really meant to go public
  • [20:24:39] <_koen_> sakoman_: but there wasn't a repo out there with their patches, so we pushed them to publish one repo
  • [20:25:10] <sakoman_> should we try to merge their stuff into the gitorious repo?
  • [20:25:12] <_koen_> sakoman_: AM/DM37xx supports config headers, so xload won;t be used for that in the near future
  • [20:25:40] * sakoman_ will be happy to seex-load die
  • [20:26:11] <_koen_> yeah, but for 35xx/34xx it will still be needed
  • [20:26:59] <_koen_> sakoman_: a few months ago I managed to talk the PSP guys into merging a few of your patches :)
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  • [20:29:20] <sakoman_> _koen_: on second thought, since I don't have any of the new hardware in the arago repo I am going to leave well enough alone
  • [20:29:30] <sakoman_> no sense creating extra work!
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  • [20:30:01] <denix> death to x-load! :)
  • [20:30:23] <sakoman_> I will likely add IGEPv2 and Zoom2 support in the gitorious repo since I have that hardware
  • [20:30:26] <_koen_> sakoman_: you're just angling for a beagleXM ;)
  • [20:30:27] <denix> ubl as well, but it's a different story... :)
  • [20:30:44] <_koen_> denix: stop scaring me away from dm3xx!
  • [20:30:59] <sakoman_> _koen_: actually new hardware is more of a curse than anything!
  • [20:31:01] <av500> dm320 ftw!
  • [20:31:19] <sakoman_> just adds more unpaid work
  • [20:31:28] * _koen_ turns on his armv6 powered tv
  • [20:31:46] * av500 read powdered...
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  • [20:32:04] <denix> av500: blast from the past? :)
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  • [20:32:17] <av500> it is the one true DM3xx :)
  • [20:32:31] * av500 does not mention the DM310.....
  • [20:32:34] <prpplague> i'm not a big fan of x-load either, i usually use barebox and apex
  • [20:32:45] <denix> it is pre-DaVinci era...
  • [20:32:52] <av500> yes
  • [20:33:39] <sakoman_> prpplague: fortunately x-load mostly just works. I only seem to need to touch it once a year
  • [20:33:55] <sakoman_> and then I feel so dirty :-)
  • [20:34:00] <prpplague> sakoman_: hehe
  • [20:34:27] <prpplague> sakoman_: yea, i usually have some odd requirements for the bootloader to operate completely out of the internal sram
  • [20:35:05] <sakoman_> prpplague: my last patch added a serial boot fallback after mmc, onenand, and nand
  • [20:35:23] <sakoman_> make bringing up hw with no mmc much easier
  • [20:36:20] <prpplague> sakoman_: nice
  • [20:36:42] <prpplague> sakoman_: i've built up a number of utilities to help with doing uart booting and such
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  • [22:27:54] <prpplague> _koen_: ping
  • [22:29:15] <prpplague> _koen_: nm
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  • [22:34:37] <dougztr> beagleboard's serial port is standard 5V right?
  • [22:35:11] <ShadowJK> What standard is that
  • [22:35:23] <dougztr> standard out of a pc
  • [22:35:48] <dougztr> like i don't need a ttl logic level converter
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  • [22:46:53] <mru> it can be connected to a pc serial port, yes
  • [22:48:52] <ds2> No, it is not 5V
  • [22:49:40] <ds2> not sure why you want a TTL converter in any case unless you really are messing with HCT or old 74LS/74S/74xx parts
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  • [22:51:02] <dougztr> i just wanted to make sure i'm not going to fry beagle by plugging it in
  • [22:51:32] <ds2> the console port is RS-232
  • [22:51:48] <ds2> which is up to +/-15V, IIRC
  • [22:51:51] <dougztr> my asus router has a 3.3v serial port
  • [22:52:11] <ds2> note, 3.3V != RS-232
  • [23:01:18] <greg___> is there a certain way you need to copy over uImage files and and boot scripts to sd cards for the beagleboard?
  • [23:02:06] <greg___> I keep getting an error saying that it can't read them while attempting to boot from the sd card.
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  • [23:04:29] <greg___> I'm using the arm version of ubuntu.
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