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  • [01:41:36] * cwillu_at_work seeks an opinion: beagleboard, 2.6.30 kernel, Xorg session with matchbox-window-manager and a single browser window; when it boots up, to X, the mouse and keyboard seem to be unresponsive (capslock/numlock doesn't light, mouse cursor doesn't move), however alt-sysrq-r + ctrl-alt-f1 will switch vterms (the magic sysrq is necessary), and the keyboard works fine in the vterms
  • [01:41:56] <cwillu_at_work> what should I be blaming? :p
  • [01:44:51] <ds2> power
  • [01:45:04] <ds2> are you using a SELF POWERED hub?
  • [01:47:58] <cwillu_at_work> yes
  • [01:48:20] <cwillu_at_work> does that explain why x doesn't respond to the keyboard without sysrq though?
  • [01:49:14] <cwillu_at_work> incidently on the self-powered topic, is it at all a valid sanity check to disconnect the power wires from the usb cable leading from the bb to the hub?
  • [01:49:32] <cwillu_at_work> (was a thought I had poking at this before, haven't actually tried it yet)
  • [01:50:32] * cwillu_at_work pokes ds2 to notify him of a late response :p
  • [01:50:50] <cwillu_at_work> (afk for a bit, will read response though (obviously))
  • [01:57:54] <ds2> not really
  • [01:58:13] <ds2> which USB port are you using?
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  • [02:55:06] <neeba> I am looking for some help with an issue with Zippy on my beagle board
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  • [03:09:42] <cwillu_at_work> ds2, sorry, just got back
  • [03:10:11] <cwillu_at_work> ds2, I'm using the mini port with the special cable
  • [03:11:35] <cwillu_at_work> the bb is powered by its power plug, attached via the mini usb port to a hub that is also powered
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  • [03:44:33] <zingo> How can I install andriod OS on beale board using Linux?
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  • [03:52:16] <cwillu_at_work> zingo, have you googled it?
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  • [04:15:50] <zingo> Yes, I tried, found help but couldn't unserstand
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  • [04:27:06] <cwillu_at_work> zingo, might want to start with an easier task then, to get familiar with the concepts involved
  • [04:27:56] <cwillu_at_work> such as following the guides to installing a mainstream distro
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  • [04:48:46] <soundcyst> has anyone in here used gumstix?
  • [04:50:55] <prym> i will soon
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  • [04:57:29] <nilly> hi
  • [04:58:16] <nilly> i am booting android from 2nd partition of memory card ....
  • [05:00:09] <nilly> but after detecting the partition it is not going ahead ....i think its not finding the init file
  • [05:01:42] <sakoman> soundcyst: what is your gumstix question?
  • [05:03:13] <soundcyst> mostly pertaining to availability.. seems like the gumstix fire with a few add ons is basically the same thing as a beagleboard, but more expensive and smaller
  • [05:03:41] <soundcyst> it also looks like they might be more readily available, though gumstix is out of stock too..
  • [05:05:13] <prym> i think it took 1 month to get mine
  • [05:05:35] <prym> i sent a follow up email after 1month and then got instant response
  • [05:06:06] <sakoman> soundcyst: Fire includes BT & wifi, so it has features beyond beagle
  • [05:06:32] <prym> wifi is reason im using it
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  • [05:07:12] <sakoman> Ah, OK. The Water version (without wifi/bt) is in stock
  • [05:07:20] <soundcyst> hmm
  • [05:07:22] <prym> im using fire
  • [05:07:31] <prym> only air & fire have wifi
  • [05:07:43] <prym> fire has an extra dsp
  • [05:07:44] <soundcyst> yeah, ok, so i hadn't realized that the beagleboard doesn't have wifi/bt
  • [05:07:58] <soundcyst> yeah, that DSP is crucial for me =)
  • [05:08:04] <sakoman> Water has DSP too
  • [05:08:28] <prym> im sure ill find a good use fo rit
  • [05:08:46] <sakoman> Fire & Water are 3530 based, Earth & Air are 3503
  • [05:09:09] <soundcyst> yeah,
  • [05:10:16] <soundcyst> hmm.
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  • [05:10:43] <sakoman> I know that Gumstix doesn't have the component issue the Beagleboard folks are struggling with, so it is likely just that sales exceeded forecasts
  • [05:10:50] <nilly> any one had android booting frm second partition i need some help
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  • [05:11:54] <soundcyst> what's the beagle's component issue?
  • [05:12:47] <sakoman> soundcyst: they were backordered on the chip for DVI output
  • [05:13:24] <sakoman> last I heard they expected to resume shipments in January
  • [05:13:34] <_av500_> and they wouldnt replace with it with a few Rs and Cs... :)
  • [05:13:44] <sakoman> check the mailing list archive for more details
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  • [05:17:24] <sakoman> soundcyst: I use both Overo and Beagle and they are extremely similar from a sw perspective
  • [05:19:02] <sakoman> Beagle has the cost advantage, Overo has the advantage of things like integrated wifi/bt/ethernet and cleaner cabling
  • [05:19:37] <soundcyst> yeha... i'm thinking that the wifi/bt may be worth it.
  • [05:19:50] <soundcyst> i wanna do some real time audio stuff
  • [05:20:21] <sakoman> soundcyst: be warned that wifi performance with the current kernels is not stellar
  • [05:20:51] <sakoman> the omap sdio driver needs some love and the wifi chips is connected via sdio
  • [05:21:05] <soundcyst> thanks for the tip
  • [05:21:24] <sakoman> so until that driver is reworked performance will be sub-optimal :-)
  • [05:21:38] <soundcyst> what kind of sub-optimal are we talking? dropped connections, slow bitrates?
  • [05:22:35] <sakoman> ~1 - 2 Mb transfer rates
  • [05:23:05] <sakoman> The driver is polled IO, no interrupts, no DMA!
  • [05:23:14] <soundcyst> oh fuck me.
  • [05:23:39] <soundcyst> is it at least threaded?
  • [05:23:54] <sakoman> Palm has rewritten the driver for the Pre and gets good data rates, but their code is for 2.6.24 :-(
  • [05:24:06] <soundcyst> hmm..
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  • [05:24:37] <sakoman> I assume that they will bring the kernel up to date at some point
  • [05:25:15] <sakoman> But in the meantime we are all waiting for some brave soul to undertake a rewrite
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  • [05:32:46] <soundcyst> how's the chip wired, GPIO?
  • [05:35:31] <djlewis>
  • [05:37:02] <av500>
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  • [05:48:26] <cwillu_at_work> anyone know anything about dss2?
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  • [05:54:56] <ds2> cwillu_at_work: ah, you are back... Hmmmm I'd suspect the hub still... did you boot with the hub plugged in or afterwards?
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  • [05:55:13] <cwillu_at_work> hub was plugged in at boot
  • [05:56:01] <cwillu_at_work> that puts partial blame with x though, if the keyboard is working at all
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  • [05:56:13] <cwillu_at_work> hotplugging has worked on this setup before
  • [05:56:56] <nitin> I tried fbset -fb /dev/fb0 -rgba "8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24" to set the graphics format to ARGB8888
  • [05:57:42] <nitin> when I do "fbset -fb /dev/fb0" next to see the change, it still shows rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,0/0
  • [05:57:43] <ds2> if it is not lighting up, I'd suspect power
  • [05:57:55] <nitin> am I missing something
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  • [05:58:49] <cwillu_at_work> the only thing not lighting up is the lights on the keyboard when you press capslock/numlock/etc; X doesn't see the keyboard, but the kernel sees it fine
  • [05:58:51] <av500> nitin: you are not totally free to chose RGBA formats on omap3
  • [05:59:02] <av500> natively it does only 2
  • [05:59:03] <cwillu_at_work> I'm not entirely sure you've acknowledged that yet :)
  • [05:59:11] <nitin> av500 : I did not get you
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  • [06:01:05] <av500> nitin: you cannot put the rgba components at arbitrary locations
  • [06:01:05] <nilly> hi i am porting android with gstreamer on the beagle board...i have got the RFS and kernel Image ...booting it frm the partition 2 but after detecting the partition it is not going ahead
  • [06:01:30] <nilly> it is saying that no init found and attemting deafualts
  • [06:01:36] <nilly> stuck ther
  • [06:01:52] <av500> and what does your kernel command line say?
  • [06:01:54] <nilly> any one has any suggestion why it is happening
  • [06:02:09] <nilly> console=ttyS2,115200n8 init=/init noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext3 rw rootdelay=1 nohz=off
  • [06:02:35] <nilly> i have got the lazy_flash_SD_image.tar.bz2
  • [06:02:50] <nilly> and 0xkernel-beagle.bin kernel image
  • [06:02:54] <av500> and you have /init on your root fs?
  • [06:03:13] <nilly> no i dont have i had tried removing it
  • [06:03:17] <nitin> av500: I want to enable the per pixel Alpha for the graphics screen.
  • [06:03:17] <nilly> also ...
  • [06:03:42] <nilly> what will be the init file for the RFS?
  • [06:03:50] <nilly> default?
  • [06:03:54] <nitin> so that except the graphics being displayed, it remains trasparent elsewhere so that I can see the video2 beneath that
  • [06:04:10] <av500> nilly: the kernel looks for /init
  • [06:04:18] <av500> nitin: ok
  • [06:04:44] <nilly> yes but if it doesnt find it will go for some defualt init ...correct me if i am wrong
  • [06:05:16] <av500> yes, so why does it not find /init?
  • [06:05:23] <nitin> av500: So is it the right way, to first enable the ARGB8888 mode?
  • [06:05:41] <nitin> Or there is a totally different approach to be followed on this.
  • [06:05:43] <av500> nitin: i am not sure the fbset above will work
  • [06:05:50] <nitin> I C
  • [06:06:03] <av500> what are your kernel boot args?
  • [06:06:47] <nilly> AV500:asking me?
  • [06:07:44] <nitin> av500: In case you asked me, "root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 omap-dss.def_disp=tv omapfb.vram=0:4M,4M,4M"
  • [06:08:01] <nilly> sry
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  • [06:08:50] <cwillu_at_work> ds2, sorry, I'm not trying to be contrary; I don't understand why a hardware power glitch would cause X and only X to consistently grab and lock the keyboard
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  • [06:10:21] <ds2> ah
  • [06:10:46] <ds2> cwillu_at_work: how do you know it is working in the kernel?
  • [06:11:34] <cwillu_at_work> ds2, when I press alt-sysrq-r, I can then press ctrl-alt-f1 to switch vterms, and it works perfectly fine in the vterm. At which point, if I kill and restart X, X will lock up the keyboard in exactly the same way (requiring alt-sysrq-r again)
  • [06:11:50] <ds2> ah...
  • [06:11:54] <cwillu_at_work> X itself isn't dead however, because the application (firefox) running in it still displays updates
  • [06:11:57] <ds2> sounds like your X is foobar'ed
  • [06:12:05] <cwillu_at_work> (current time and status from a remote status()
  • [06:12:50] <cwillu_at_work> s/status(/server/
  • [06:13:13] <ds2> check your X config then
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  • [06:13:26] <ds2> i read it as your KB and mouse doesn't worrk
  • [06:13:47] <cwillu_at_work> well, I did give exactly the explanation I just gave :p
  • [06:14:42] <cwillu_at_work> hmm. X uses hald for its hotplug info doesn't it
  • [06:14:50] <cwillu_at_work> wonder if that's the piece that died
  • [06:15:16] <ds2> *shrug* that is a distro q
  • [06:16:04] <cwillu_at_work> it's a rhetorical xorg question; Xorg _does_ use hal (until very very recently) if it uses autodetection
  • [06:16:11] <cwillu_at_work> thinking out loud :p
  • [06:16:43] <cwillu_at_work> the keyboard gets locked up because the current vt is no longer in raw mode
  • [06:16:54] <cwillu_at_work> (i.e., why ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work)
  • [06:17:01] <cwillu_at_work> that makes some sense now
  • [06:19:01] <ds2> software issues... BLAH :P
  • [06:19:46] <cwillu_at_work> ...and here I was thinking it was one of those icky hardware issues :p
  • [06:19:52] <nitin> av500: can you give some pointers on how to enable perpixel transparency
  • [06:20:57] <Aditya1> * dances around *
  • [06:21:03] <Aditya1> finally got something to work over DSP
  • [06:21:07] <Aditya1> no DVI port
  • [06:21:17] <Aditya1> and probably half other peripherals are missing
  • [06:21:19] <Aditya1> but still
  • [06:21:23] <Aditya1> something works over DSP :P
  • [06:24:53] <ds2> hw issues are more fun
  • [06:24:57] <cwillu_at_work> hardly
  • [06:25:05] <Aditya1> heh
  • [06:25:06] <Aditya1> well
  • [06:25:17] <cwillu_at_work> I have 9 hours of driving ahead of me today because of hardware issues
  • [06:25:20] <Aditya1> I took your advice and just built it from TI stuff ds2
  • [06:25:28] <Aditya1> not using bitbake
  • [06:25:39] <Aditya1> built uImage, modules and dsplinkk outside OE
  • [06:25:59] <Aditya1> I am guessing I need to do something to make angstrom play nice with the new kernel to let /dev/fb0 actually be found
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  • [06:28:14] <Aditya1> I'll be happy with seeing anything on screen :P
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  • [06:33:45] <cwillu_at_work> console=ttyS2,115200n8 dvi:1280x1024MR-16@72 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait
  • [06:33:49] <cwillu_at_work> yep, I'm dumb
  • [06:35:02] <cwillu_at_work> there we go, _that_ penguin is 1280x1024
  • [06:35:21] <cwillu_at_work> and _that_ xorg isn't crashing \o/
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  • [06:35:58] <Aditya1> nice
  • [06:36:03] <Aditya1> need to figure out my problems
  • [06:36:12] <Aditya1> it says the resolution stuff I've given is invalid
  • [06:36:16] <Aditya1> but its too late in the night for that
  • [06:36:25] <Aditya1> need to wake up at freaking 7 tmw meh
  • [06:36:29] * cwillu_at_work offers to post pics of his fancy new beagleboxes
  • [06:36:29] <Aditya1> BUT
  • [06:36:32] <Aditya1> "Transferring 1000 iterations took 0 seconds 261994 microseconds.
  • [06:36:32] <Aditya1> RoundTrip Time for 1 message is 261 microseconds."
  • [06:36:35] <Aditya1> w00t
  • [06:36:45] <nilly> any one has any idea from where to get android binaries for gstreamer...or I can boot do-nut or cupcake iamges and put gstreamer libs and bin in it
  • [06:36:45] <Aditya1> you have no idea how happy those two lines of output make me lol
  • [06:36:51] <nilly> ..will it be fine?
  • [06:36:53] <cwillu_at_work> Aditya1, will that make firefox scroll faster?
  • [06:37:11] <Aditya1> cwillu_at_work: if you somehow figure out how to make firefox use the DSP lol probably
  • [06:37:35] <cwillu_at_work> Aditya1, well via x, of course :p
  • [06:37:46] <Aditya1> nilly: I know embinux and 0xdroid both seem to have some sort of gstreamer support
  • [06:37:57] <Aditya1> nilly: what android port are you using
  • [06:38:09] <Aditya1> cwillu_at_work: it took me a while just to get these simple messages across :P
  • [06:38:18] <cwillu_at_work> black triangles
  • [06:38:26] <cwillu_at_work> the hard part is done :p
  • [06:38:28] <nilly> yes but when i downloded RFS from emblinux i am not finding gstremer in it
  • [06:38:36] <cwillu_at_work> I expect fully accelerated 2d driver support by next monday
  • [06:38:41] <nilly> than i tried do-nut RFS but also not ther
  • [06:38:48] <cwillu_at_work> and it had better be stable
  • [06:38:55] <Aditya1> ...
  • [06:38:55] <cwillu_at_work> none of this 'X doesn't like my keyboard' crap :p
  • [06:39:00] <nilly> I got RFS uimage everything but gstremer libs and bin are not ther
  • [06:39:07] <Aditya1> cwillu_at_work: what exactly is EVER stable in this world
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  • [06:39:27] <Aditya1> ubuntu/stable is more like "it wont blow up and kill your children"
  • [06:39:50] <cwillu_at_work> Aditya1, my ctypes -> libusb -> ft2232 usb -> relays -> real world stuff that goes clunkclunkclunk :)
  • [06:40:07] <Aditya1> nilly: Have you tried their google groups list?
  • [06:40:20] <cwillu_at_work> perfectly stable
  • [06:40:31] <Aditya1> nilly: This is a general beagelboard IRC channel, prob not the best place to ask. Atleast myself I am not very familiar with android stuff for beagle
  • [06:40:43] <nilly> ya
  • [06:40:52] <Aditya1> cwillu_at_work: Actually I am somewhat interested in that
  • [06:40:53] <nilly> i have one general wuery
  • [06:41:06] <Aditya1> cwillu_at_work: Are you talking over USB to a board you made that takes serial input?
  • [06:41:10] <nilly> will beagle linux compile binaries work with android
  • [06:41:11] <nilly> ?
  • [06:41:22] <Aditya1> most likely not
  • [06:41:23] <nilly> as both are build for arm core only
  • [06:41:51] <Aditya1> it might be as simple as building with different compiler flags
  • [06:41:58] <cwillu_at_work> nilly, there's a bit more to binary compatibility than having the right instruction set
  • [06:42:00] <Aditya1> but I am pretty sure just copying over binaries wont work
  • [06:42:09] <nilly> ok
  • [06:42:11] <Aditya1> hell
  • [06:42:17] <nilly> how abt .so files?
  • [06:42:21] <cwillu_at_work> you'd have to be building against the right libraries at least
  • [06:42:27] <cwillu_at_work> .so's are binaries silly :p
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  • [06:42:33] <Aditya1> dsplinkk built for 2.6.29-omap1 wont work in 2.6.29-rc3-omap1
  • [06:42:33] <nilly> will it work?
  • [06:42:41] <Aditya1> so that should give yu an idea
  • [06:42:41] <cwillu_at_work> no.
  • [06:42:59] <nilly> ohh even .so will not work
  • [06:43:01] <nilly> ..
  • [06:43:09] <Aditya1> more likely .so will ESPECIALLY not work
  • [06:43:19] <nilly> k
  • [06:43:36] <Aditya1> hmm
  • [06:43:38] <Aditya1> I really should get to bed
  • [06:43:43] <nilly> thx
  • [06:43:47] <nilly> for info guys
  • [06:43:50] <Aditya1> I was supposed to get to bed at 1 and get 6 hours of sleep
  • [06:43:52] <Aditya1> bleh
  • [06:43:55] <Aditya1> np nilly
  • [06:43:57] <Aditya1> good luck
  • [06:44:01] <nilly> thx
  • [06:44:04] <cwillu_at_work> I got up 12 hours ago, and have to be on the road in 3 hours :)
  • [06:44:04] <nilly> good night
  • [06:44:09] <cwillu_at_work> and it's -32 outside :(
  • [06:44:14] <Aditya1> ick
  • [06:44:17] <nilly> ohhhh
  • [06:44:24] <cwillu_at_work> -45 with windchill
  • [06:44:29] <Aditya1> I am supposed to give a demo tmw
  • [06:44:35] <Aditya1> they are not going to like me
  • [06:44:36] <Aditya1> * sigh *
  • [06:44:47] <nilly> where r u from cwillu_at_work?
  • [06:44:50] <cwillu_at_work> saskatoon
  • [06:45:04] <nilly> aditya1 : good luck for your demo
  • [06:45:24] <cwillu_at_work> I've had my car warming up for 30 minutes, it might be blowing hot air by now :)
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  • [06:48:06] <cwillu_at_work> Aditya1, avoid eating anything before you go to bed, and use frequent small munchables + caffeine instead of a heavy breakfast; maintaining even blood-sugar levels is the key to surviving on 2 hours sleep :)
  • [06:48:37] <prym> how about reboiling hotsnapz handwarmers with every meal
  • [06:50:04] * cwillu_at_work hasn't made much progress on his btrfs root yet :/
  • [06:50:41] <nitin> Can I get some pointers towards enabling per-pixel alpha for Graphics screen?
  • [06:55:49] <soundcyst> sakoman, what addons do you have with the fire board?
  • [06:56:54] <prym> heres my addon boards http://lucidfusionlabs.com/media/1248902213_1_FT1325_linux_wall_wart_schematics.pdf
  • [06:58:55] <soundcyst> your own design?
  • [06:59:06] <prym> gizmoforyou.com's
  • [06:59:17] <prym> not bad eh?
  • [06:59:29] <soundcyst> nope. not at all =)
  • [07:01:50] <prym> i dont understand much of the schematics
  • [07:02:00] <prym> i just focus on software that will eventually run on it
  • [07:03:11] <soundcyst> cool.. yeah, i'm just trying to figure out if the summit expansion is going to provide me with the GPIO i need..
  • [07:04:58] <cwillu_at_work> soundcyst, you know that you _need_ a daughter board for the overos right?
  • [07:05:04] <soundcyst> yes.
  • [07:05:13] <cwillu_at_work> what are you looking for exactly?
  • [07:05:19] <soundcyst> i'm just trying to figure out if i'll need anything more
  • [07:05:26] <cwillu_at_work> to do what?
  • [07:05:35] * cwillu_at_work just got back, and probably missed some conversation
  • [07:05:48] <soundcyst> no worries, i haven't really divulged.
  • [07:05:57] * cwillu_at_work has installed 4 overo's of various descriptions in the last 6 months :p
  • [07:06:17] <soundcyst> i'm taking a thinkgeek bliptronix hand hacking it up to be a portable linux-driven synth/sampler
  • [07:06:37] <soundcyst> think monome with a computer inside or open source tenori on
  • [07:06:51] <cwillu_at_work> there's not a huge number of gpio's exposed on the 40 pin header
  • [07:07:00] <soundcyst> yeah, there's a few though..
  • [07:07:13] <soundcyst> i don't need PWM, so as long as i can set those pins to inputs, i'll be good
  • [07:07:23] <cwillu_at_work> on the other hand, it's fairly straightforward to use a dlp-usb1232h to get another 9 i/o's
  • [07:07:59] <cwillu_at_work> digikey# 813-1026-ND
  • [07:08:22] <ds2> usb for GPIOs? heh
  • [07:08:49] <cwillu_at_work> ds2, I wasn't kidding above when I said "ctypes -> libusb -> ft2232 usb -> relays -> real world stuff that goes clunkclunkclunk" :D
  • [07:09:01] <ds2> i know
  • [07:09:14] <soundcyst> nah, i'd rather not have to have both sets of hardware in there.
  • [07:09:31] <soundcyst> too easy ;)
  • [07:10:09] <cwillu_at_work> no shame in being easy
  • [07:10:38] <ds2> cwillu_at_work: is that thing at 3.3 or 5?
  • [07:10:40] <soundcyst> no, but also a little more expensive and less exciting.
  • [07:11:01] <soundcyst> also more power hungry
  • [07:11:03] <cwillu_at_work> ds2, 3.3 but 5v tolerant
  • [07:11:22] <ds2> so it won't work well with LED driving
  • [07:11:27] <cwillu_at_work> ds2, the relays I'm running it against are all 2.5 threshold 1v dropout, so it's easy enough
  • [07:12:05] <cwillu_at_work> hmm, now that you mention it
  • [07:12:08] <ds2> how many mAs is it rated for (the ports)?
  • [07:12:09] * cwillu_at_work gets out the voltmeter
  • [07:13:16] <cwillu_at_work> yep, 3.3 volts
  • [07:13:40] <cwillu_at_work> mA, let me check
  • [07:14:24] <cwillu_at_work> drive strength is 16mA
  • [07:15:00] <ds2> hmm scratch then... had some higher power relays in mind
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  • [07:17:38] * cwillu_at_work suspects fs corruption
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  • [08:41:40] <nitin> tomba: Can you help me
  • [08:41:59] <nitin> how to set the ARGB32 mode for /dev/fb0 from sysfs
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  • [08:42:39] <nitin> fbset -fb /dev/fb0 -rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
  • [08:42:52] <nitin> but does not work
  • [08:42:55] <nitin> am I missing something
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  • [10:20:55] <torpor> greets
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  • [10:45:04] <hrw> morning
  • [10:45:14] <av500> gm
  • [10:45:49] <torpor> morning
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  • [11:57:41] <nitin> What is the way to allocate memory for all the frame buffers through omapfb.vram?
  • [11:58:15] <nitin> I understand that it is not necessary with the latest DSS2 driver, but in case it has to be done
  • [11:59:03] <nitin> I tried "0:4M,1:4M,2:4M" also "0:4M,4M,4M" , they did not work
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  • [12:01:20] <nilly> hi
  • [12:01:42] <nilly> any one of android gstremer porter here?
  • [12:11:51] <notaz> nitin: vram=X for total VRAM, then omapfb.vram=... to allocate from what you specified in vram= to individual framebuffers
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  • [12:27:10] <nitin> notaz: Thanks, I think I missed vram=X for total VRAM
  • [12:27:15] <nitin> it works now
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  • [12:30:01] <JohnSter> hello
  • [12:30:49] <JohnSter> is anyone there?
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  • [12:36:25] <JohnSter> Is anyone there?
  • [12:36:33] <mru> only trolls
  • [12:37:56] <JohnSter> o.O
  • [12:39:10] <kblin> I don't know if I'm here. but that's mostly because I know how fast I am
  • [12:39:33] <mru> heisentroll
  • [12:45:59] <JohnSter> i need help from expert actually T.T
  • [12:46:55] <av500> how about just asking?
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  • [12:47:58] <mru> we're all experts here
  • [12:48:01] <mru> at trolling
  • [12:48:07] <JohnSter> did anyone can help me? my beagleboard can't boot at all after i flash the NAND with x-loader. The USR0, USR1 and RS232 leds can't turn on no matter how many times i reset. May be i screw up already T.T
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  • [12:51:05] <av500> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardRecovery
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  • [12:54:25] <JohnSter> Hmm, interesting...
  • [12:57:05] <JohnSter> Did any SD/MMC card can be used to boot the BB? Cuz i am now using Kingston 8GB.
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  • [13:03:33] <JohnSter> av500, Did the methods from that website you posted just now can be use? Because the 3 leds from the BB are not turn on.
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  • [13:57:19] <jkridner|work> good morning all
  • [13:57:32] <florian> hi jkridner|work
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  • [14:00:36] <Crofton|work> gm
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  • [14:04:10] <mru> morning Crofton|work
  • [14:07:50] <av500> gm guys
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  • [14:08:26] <av500> gm raster
  • [14:09:38] <raster> av500: burrrp
  • [14:09:42] <raster> ugh
  • [14:09:44] <raster> need food
  • [14:11:33] <torpor> no food here
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  • [14:14:03] <mru> try the fridge
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  • [14:29:30] <jkridner|work> nasty net split
  • [14:29:58] <jkridner|work> room back together?
  • [14:30:23] <av500> sorry, can't put back dumpty together again
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  • [14:35:58] <djlewis> good morning you beagleboard wizards :)
  • [14:36:08] <mru> morning djlewis
  • [14:36:40] <av500> morning djlewis
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  • [14:48:25] <prpplague> jkridner|work: any idea why the OMAP35xx series has such a small horizontal sync pulse width register values? 4 bit is terrible small
  • [14:49:56] <av500> 4bit?
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  • [14:56:07] <prpplague> jkridner|work: sorry about that, anyway..... any idea why the OMAP35xx series has such a small horizontal sync pulse width register values? 4 bit is terrible small
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  • [14:59:43] <jkridner|work> I didn't know it was particularly small.
  • [15:00:03] <jkridner|work> are other people having problems with the size?
  • [15:00:25] * jkridner|work searches e2e.ti.com
  • [15:02:00] <prpplague> jkridner|work: when you get up to the higher pixel clocks often you need to make the horizontal sync much bigger
  • [15:02:13] <prpplague> jkridner|work: i don't know if anyone else has an issue with it
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  • [15:02:17] <av500> prpplague: but its not 4 bits
  • [15:02:38] <av500> DSS.DISPC_TIMING_H[7:0] HSW bit field value + 1
  • [15:02:54] <mru> looks like 8 bits to me
  • [15:03:03] <prpplague> av500: hmm, i must be looking at the wrong datasheet then
  • [15:03:06] * prpplague looks
  • [15:03:26] <av500> prpplague: throw away the ones labaled "PIC***"
  • [15:03:49] <suihkulokki> is there a Xserver for dss(2) that supports xrandr ?
  • [15:04:02] * jkridner|work notes that Linus merged a bunch of OMAP patches a couple days ago.
  • [15:04:12] <av500> dss2, no?
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  • [15:05:04] <suihkulokki> av500: yes
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  • [15:07:00] <jkridner|work> hmmm.... looks like a couple of EHCI patches for OMAP3 went mainline too.
  • [15:07:12] * jkridner|work anxiously awaits 2.6.33-rc1!
  • [15:07:56] <prpplague> hmm, spruf98c.pdf page 288, the text indicates that it is limited to 1 to 64, even thought the actual bit space is 7:0
  • [15:08:53] <av500> prpplague: that was 2.0 or so
  • [15:09:02] <av500> >= es 3.0 it should be fixed
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  • [15:09:11] <prpplague> ahh
  • [15:09:12] <av500> or 2.1
  • [15:09:16] <av500> i forgot
  • [15:09:31] <av500> we had a sync extender cpld on the 1st omap3 design due to that
  • [15:09:36] <av500> not any more
  • [15:10:06] <prpplague> av500: ahh dandy
  • [15:10:09] * prpplague tries it
  • [15:11:28] * jkridner|work smiles after seeing that indeed DSS2 is mainline!
  • [15:11:31] <jkridner|work> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS
  • [15:11:54] <jkridner|work> 4 days ago. I must have had a good weekend not to notice.
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  • [15:13:07] <jkridner|work> suihkulokki: let me know if anyone responds to your Xrandr query. you sending that to the mailing list(s)?
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  • [15:13:27] <prpplague> jkridner|work: yea i've been testing the mainline stuff
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  • [15:15:19] <Crofton|work> jkridner|work, that is good news, hopefully the OE patch set will shrink
  • [15:15:47] <CountDown> I just repopulated my FAT32 partition, and followed the recovery steps, but now my u-boot environment variables aren't persisting between boots even though I'm using saveenv. I must be missing something obvious. Ideas?
  • [15:16:09] <prpplague> av500: i'm guessing it is es3 , anything about 64 on my hardware(es2.1) locks up
  • [15:16:21] <av500> prpplague: yeah, could be
  • [15:17:17] <prpplague> darn
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  • [15:18:35] <prpplague> don't suppose there is an errata on that somewhere?
  • [15:20:23] <CountDown> Weird. I just replaced my u-boot.bin and it seems to be working now. Must have missed something.
  • [15:20:57] <mru> prpplague: just get some es3 hardware
  • [15:21:25] <prpplague> mru: already purchased what i need for this project :(
  • [15:21:52] <mru> you could sell it
  • [15:22:45] <av500> prpplague: dunno about the errata, but sent a big WTF to ti about it :)
  • [15:22:57] <av500> coz it basically rules out HDMI cert with only 64...
  • [15:23:21] <prpplague> av500: yea, rules out a bunch of stuff
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  • [15:24:39] <prpplague> oh well, i'll just have to make due at a lower freq for now
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  • [15:32:40] <prpplague> av500: yea looks like it is es3 hardware, there is a range check in dss
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  • [15:33:03] <av500> prpplague: yes, 3.0
  • [15:33:44] * prpplague has a long day of framebuffer fun
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  • [15:43:49] <sakoman_> prpplague: I ran into that issue a few months back too :-(
  • [15:44:16] <prpplague> sakoman_: what did you do? just go with es3 hardware?
  • [15:45:04] <sakoman_> it turned out that the spec sheet that seemed to be asking for such a long sync was wrong
  • [15:45:31] <sakoman_> so it turned out to not be a real issue for me
  • [15:45:31] <prpplague> sakoman_: ahh
  • [15:45:47] <sakoman_> but it was *really* confusing for a couple of days :-(
  • [15:46:48] <prpplague> sakoman_: ahh ok
  • [15:47:00] <prpplague> sakoman_: well i'm gonna try and run at a low pixclk
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  • [15:48:21] <sakoman_> prpplague: I encountered the lockups with values > 63
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  • [15:51:18] <prpplague> sakoman_: ahh, so i'm not as insane as i thought i was
  • [15:51:52] <sakoman_> no :-) it made for quite a few WTF? moments
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  • [15:52:48] <sakoman_> but then I noticed that the display actually worked with the lower values, so I contacted the vendor to get clarification on the spec sheet timing diagrams
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  • [15:53:13] <av500> sakoman_: we tried that, but HDMI cert authority would not budge :)
  • [15:53:37] <prpplague> sakoman_: yea i'm thinking we probably can get away with using a lower freq for now and get es3 later
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  • [15:55:53] <prpplague> sakoman_: part of my problem is that this display is reverse engineered
  • [15:56:02] <prpplague> sakoman_: so my specs are all captured
  • [15:57:02] <sakoman_> prpplague: ah, too bad. I was lucky in that the spec sheet was just wrong
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  • [15:58:03] <prpplague> sakoman_: well the image is syncing at 27MHz instead 33MHz, so it looks to be working
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  • [15:58:13] <prpplague> sakoman_: now i just have to get the porches correct
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  • [16:05:42] <prpplague> sakoman_: ahh looks like the VSW is the critical one and since it is based off the HSW
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  • [16:09:30] <SlipSlop> anyone with experience on cortex a9?
  • [16:09:30] <SlipSlop> (not a8)
  • [16:09:39] <mru> a little
  • [16:10:11] <SlipSlop> have you played with the ACP before?
  • [16:10:19] <mru> acp?
  • [16:10:27] <SlipSlop> advanced coherency port
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  • [16:10:36] <mru> afraid not
  • [16:11:11] <SlipSlop> ie, if you issue a store to memory, external devices can see the store whether it's stuck in l1, l2 or ram
  • [16:11:15] <SlipSlop> and vice versa
  • [16:11:17] <SlipSlop> ok
  • [16:11:24] <mru> I know what coherency is
  • [16:11:32] <mru> just haven't messed with it on A9
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  • [16:26:13] <josue> hy I have a beagle board but my keyboard dont function
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  • [16:27:37] <josue> I dont Know wath brand
  • [16:27:57] <josue> function whit the eagleboard
  • [16:28:53] <av500> usb
  • [16:29:08] <josue> yes
  • [16:29:47] <josue> I know the keyboard function whith USB of 5 volts
  • [16:30:06] <josue> but in my keyboard say 5 volts 12 ampers
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  • [16:30:27] <mru> a 12A keyboard, hmm...
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  • [16:30:33] <av500> 60W, not bad
  • [16:30:39] <josue> no
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  • [16:31:06] <mru> maybe if you type _really_ fast
  • [16:31:20] <josue> maybe
  • [16:31:21] <av500> or it keeps the hands warm in winter
  • [16:31:34] <mru> heated keyboard
  • [16:31:39] <mru> there's a business idea...
  • [16:31:45] <kblin> meh
  • [16:31:53] <kblin> it probably plays jingle bells
  • [16:32:17] <josue> wath brand you recomend for mee
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  • [16:32:49] <kblin> josue: did you try the EHCI port or the OTG port? with a powered hub?
  • [16:33:28] <josue> really a I dont have any aidea
  • [16:34:01] <josue> but you recomend me a brand for this thinks
  • [16:34:06] <josue> things
  • [16:34:09] <josue> sorry
  • [16:34:25] <av500> josue: did you try the EHCI port or the OTG port? with a powered hub?
  • [16:34:48] <josue> I dont have any idea
  • [16:35:47] <kblin> I'd recommend you read the beagleboard manual then. without that information it's kind of hard to help
  • [16:35:58] <josue> this can the problem whit my keyboard
  • [16:36:03] <torpor__> there is a bug in some hardware versions of the beagleboard ..
  • [16:36:15] <torpor__> won't do USB Host unless you short pins 4 and 5
  • [16:36:22] <torpor__> check the rev of your beagleboard and read the manual.
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  • [16:36:27] <kblin> torpor__: not on EHCI, though
  • [16:36:41] <torpor> really?
  • [16:36:53] <kblin> EHCI is host-mode only
  • [16:37:08] <torpor> but some revs of beagleboad don't have EHCI, or .. ?
  • [16:37:17] <torpor> i had to modify mine so i could get USB Host.
  • [16:37:25] <kblin> there's that, only revCs have EHCI
  • [16:37:41] <josue> when I buy the beagleboard dont have manual
  • [16:37:43] <torpor> right
  • [16:37:55] <josue> maibe I find in the web page
  • [16:38:07] <torpor> what rev is your board?
  • [16:38:38] <av500> josue: http://beagleboard.org
  • [16:39:01] <josue> do you know hoo is the web direction for find the manual
  • [16:39:18] <josue> but the compleat direction
  • [16:39:23] <av500> http://beagleboard.org/static/BBSRM_latest.pdf
  • [16:39:33] <josue> ok thanks
  • [16:40:51] <josue> see you
  • [16:40:57] <josue> thanks for all
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  • [16:49:18] <torpor> does anyone know if someone has made some nice releases for the beagleboard in the form of 'completed' OS images, with interesting apps onboard and so on? i've got my beagle set up with a pico projector and the project i was using it for is over now, so i'd like to use my beagle for interesting things .. like MAME and other system emulations, and so on .. anyone know of some nice releases that have a lot of that stuff onboard?
  • [16:49:27] <torpor> or any other recommendations for what to run on the beagle?
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  • [17:04:46] <sakoman_> torpor: you could give my gnome image a try: http://www.sakoman.com
  • [17:05:03] <torpor> i will do that sakoman_ thanks ..
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  • [17:08:50] <awozniak> I'm trying to get the OMAP PWM11 going using the example devmem2 calls at http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-PWM-Driver-for-Overo--p23157590.html , but all the devmem2 calls give me "Unhandled fault: external abort on non-linefetch" and "Bus error". Anybody have any clues for me?
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  • [17:10:29] <prpplague> awozniak: if you issue the devmem2 command with no arguments what does it do?
  • [17:10:49] <awozniak> prpplague:Usage: devmem2 { address } [ type [ data ] ]
  • [17:10:49] <awozniak> address : memory address to act upon
  • [17:10:49] <awozniak> type : access operation type : [b]yte, [h]alfword, [w]ord
  • [17:10:49] <awozniak> data : data to be written
  • [17:11:38] <prpplague> awozniak: devmem2 0x48088024
  • [17:11:42] <prpplague> awozniak: try that
  • [17:12:09] <awozniak> prpplague:/dev/mem opened.Unhandled fault: external abort on non-linefetch (0x1018) at 0x4001f024
  • [17:12:09] <awozniak> Memory mapped at address 0x4001f000.
  • [17:12:09] <awozniak> Bus error
  • [17:12:55] <prpplague> awozniak: where did you get your devmem2 binary?
  • [17:13:34] <awozniak> bitbake from oe, although it may be a few months out of date; I wouldn't expect it to be broken though, it seems a simple enough thing.
  • [17:14:19] <awozniak> devmem2 0x48002178 h 0x00102 works, but it's the only one of the set that does. I tried breaking the first "w" into two "h", but no joy there, same error.
  • [17:16:17] <awozniak> prpplague:cat sources/devmem2.c.md5
  • [17:16:18] <awozniak> be12c0132a1ae118cbf5e79d98427c1d
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  • [17:25:49] <mru> awozniak: make sure the interface clock for the unit you're accessing is enabled
  • [17:25:55] <mru> otherwise you'll get such errors
  • [17:26:09] <awozniak> looks like devmem2 is mapping only one page.
  • [17:26:31] <awozniak> that should be ok though I think.
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  • [17:26:53] <awozniak> mru: how do I "make sure the interface clock for the unit" is enabled?
  • [17:27:06] <mru> depends on the unit
  • [17:27:22] <mru> is there no kernel driver for whatever you're trying to do?
  • [17:27:39] <awozniak> So let's talk about PWM11 then.
  • [17:29:01] <awozniak> I'm working through getting this working. I don't trust the kernel anymore to set anything up, so I'd like to verify that it can be set up via this devmem2 calls.
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  • [17:32:35] <mru> why don't you trust the kernel?
  • [17:32:58] <mru> if you don't trust the kernel you might as well give up straight away
  • [17:34:03] <awozniak> I'm trying to get PWM11 working with the LED driver. That's all set up, but the o-scope gives me no joy. I'm not convinced things are being initialized properly. All my google searching says that those devmem calls should do the trick. Once I verify that is true, I can then go back and look through the kernel code to see what's going wrong.
  • [17:35:21] <mru> hack the kernel to leave the clocks on then
  • [17:35:40] <mru> or better yet, use debugfs
  • [17:36:18] <awozniak> Can you be more specific? I'm not super familiar with the omap processors.
  • [17:36:46] <mru> maybe you should read the TRM
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  • [17:37:46] <awozniak> searching for TRM on http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/omap3530.html gives me no joy. Can you be more specific?
  • [17:38:06] <mru> spruf98
  • [17:39:49] <awozniak> mru: ty
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  • [17:43:02] <awozniak> page 139 shows 4 "interface clocks" which should all be "running" at reset. If they're not running, can I assume something in the kernel has stopped them?
  • [17:43:28] <mru> the kernel disables all clocks that aren't needed
  • [17:43:44] <awozniak> Do you know where it does that (what .c file) ?
  • [17:43:45] <mru> interface clocks are usually only enabled when a driver needs to reconfigure a unit
  • [17:43:52] <mru> it's done all over the place
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  • [17:48:05] <CountDown> How do I update my enlightenment desktop package in Angstrom? Seems I probably have to add a feed, but I don't know which one.
  • [17:59:47] <_koen_> CountDown: no need to add feeds
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  • [18:01:28] <CountDown> _koen_: Are they already there? I just realized E is already up-to-date, which is why it might not be doing anything interesting when I try to upgrade -- forgot that the Angstrom distro probably isn't shipping the latest E release.
  • [18:02:39] <_koen_> CountDown: svn from 2 weeks ago
  • [18:04:01] <CountDown> Hm. #e claims latest release is 0.16.999.063, but I'm running 0.16.999.050. I guess they release frequently.
  • [18:05:54] <awozniak> mru: tyvm, o-scope shows joy now. If I turn on the interface clock, how do I know something else won't turn it off? Or is SOP to enable the interface clock, make the changes, then disable the interface clock?
  • [18:06:30] <mru> the kernel is in charge of clocks
  • [18:06:36] <mru> don't assume it won't go and mess with them
  • [18:08:47] <awozniak> mru: sure. If the kernel disables the interface clock, will my PWM stop? Or will it keep running?
  • [18:12:00] <awozniak> mru: tested, stopping the interface clock does not disable the pwm. Looks like the correct procedure is to enable the interface clock, make the change, then disable it.
  • [18:12:32] <mru> the interface clock is only needed when talking to a subsystem
  • [18:12:52] <mru> most subsystems also have a functional clock which keeps them going
  • [18:12:56] <awozniak> mru: understood now. Thank you.
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  • [18:20:22] <jkridner|work> hmmmm.... some task seems to be filling up the beagleboard.org server's hard drive.
  • [18:22:46] <prpplague> jkridner|work: stop playing Doom on the server
  • [18:23:05] <jkridner|work> :_
  • [18:23:05] <jkridner|work> :)
  • [18:23:16] <jkridner|work> got any great ideas for tracking down growing files?
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  • [18:28:15] <_koen_> jkridner|work: ncdu is a nice tool to see which directory is hogging all the space
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  • [18:31:04] <ds2> morning
  • [18:31:44] <mru> morning ds2
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  • [18:37:49] <_av500_> morning ds2
  • [18:38:15] <sakoman_> morning ds2
  • [18:38:47] <ds2> sakoman_: on target for a white christmas?
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  • [18:40:44] <sakoman_> ds2: that would be a very rare occurance! last forecast I saw was 50F & cloudy
  • [18:40:51] <_av500_> jkridner|work: stop the torrents...
  • [18:40:55] <ds2> oh
  • [18:41:14] <sakoman_> ds2: kind of like today :-)
  • [18:41:21] <ds2> sakoman_: surely you got a nice tall christmas tree you chopped yourself?
  • [18:42:20] <sakoman_> ds2: no, not this year
  • [18:44:22] <ds2> nothing really christmasy out here on the west coast
  • [18:45:51] <sakoman_> bah, humbug!
  • [18:46:09] <ds2> seems like it for as long as I been here
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  • [18:46:36] <ds2> no white xmas, no outdoor skating rings, etc
  • [18:50:50] <sakoman_> ds2: you need to move to a colder climate!
  • [18:51:08] <ds2> sakoman_: I came from a colder climate where we had all those
  • [18:51:52] <mru> ds2: where was that?
  • [18:52:04] <ds2> mru: Chicago, IL, USA
  • [18:53:43] <_av500_> where even the snow gets a cold..
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  • [19:18:09] <Crofton|work> koen, pin
  • [19:18:43] <_av500_> g
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  • [19:38:16] <ds2> now that the Beagle project has been around... I wonder if anyone has tried doing a toaster oven POP assembly?
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  • [19:39:58] <_av500_> ds2: send pics
  • [19:40:12] <ds2> _av500_: want to donate PCBs? :)
  • [19:40:30] <_av500_> ami the bb source?
  • [19:40:41] <ds2> in theory, it should be just a reflow
  • [19:41:02] <ds2> _av500_: no, but any PCBs that can handle a POP assembly... scraps will do
  • [19:42:27] <ds2> of course the other problem is finding a cheap chip to verify things on
  • [19:43:54] <_av500_> yep
  • [19:44:06] <_av500_> u can fake solder pop all day
  • [19:44:19] <_av500_> it wont help u if u miss 1 ball on a real desing
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  • [19:50:19] <ds2> indeed...
  • [19:51:01] <ds2> the POPs are such a nice thing... being able to do more protos cheaply would be very useful
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  • [20:07:22] <_av500_> but what about the rest of the pcb?
  • [20:07:49] <_av500_> u still need to solder a .4 bga...
  • [20:08:17] <ds2> Gerald described 3 basic ways of assembly... I was thinking of the both chips at once assembly method
  • [20:08:44] <ds2> with leaded solder if needed to make it flow better
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  • [20:09:32] <ds2> people have done BGAs with the toaster oven reflowers... and the rule of thumb I am hearing is the PCB solder mask is the most important thing to get right
  • [20:09:37] <prym> Almost done. Testing is complete. We managed to test out the chip with the help of some good programmers. We shall be posting this Gizmo in the shop soon.
  • [20:09:57] <prym> OMG, christmas present please
  • [20:10:10] <_av500_> ds2: yes, it also help to have a shop with a "process" :)
  • [20:10:56] <ds2> yes and this would be the "process" development
  • [20:12:07] <ds2> the alternative is to do RAM layout voodoo
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  • [20:13:37] <_av500_> squiglly traces
  • [20:14:30] <ds2> still got to get them somewhat matched
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  • [20:15:42] <_av500_> yes
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  • [20:15:54] <ds2> POP solves all that
  • [20:16:15] <Crofton|work> _koen_, that really you?
  • [20:16:17] <_av500_> our 1st ddr design we copied the traces 1:1 from the evm :)
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  • [20:16:54] <ds2> and did it work?
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  • [20:16:58] <_av500_> yep
  • [20:17:10] <_av500_> was probably overcautios
  • [20:17:12] <_koen_> Crofton|work: no, it's a troll
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  • [20:18:35] <stan_> I see a lot of audio, video, and common PC peripherals. How would you control a device like a motor or lamp or other equipment?
  • [20:19:08] <_av500_> with some glue
  • [20:19:18] <_koen_> hire an intern and tell him what to do
  • [20:19:20] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [20:19:27] <Crofton|work> demo-iamge is not building atm
  • [20:19:41] <Crofton|work> djwillis has some pandora pactches that should fix
  • [20:19:47] <Crofton|work> mess preferred versions
  • [20:20:00] <_koen_> Crofton|work: so cherrypick those?
  • [20:20:02] <Crofton|work> do you mind if I pull his pathces and give them a shot
  • [20:20:04] <Crofton|work> ok
  • [20:20:25] <Crofton|work> let me see if I can figure out how to do this :)
  • [20:20:31] * _koen_ needs to get a qt 4.6.0 sdk built with OE working well before wednesday
  • [20:20:35] <ds2> motor control is easy
  • [20:20:48] <Crofton|work> awesome
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  • [20:20:55] <Crofton|work> let me look at his patches then
  • [20:20:56] <ds2> _Koen_: what happens after wednesday?
  • [20:21:27] <Crofton|work> if he doesn't his _*_ masters will beat him
  • [20:21:32] <_koen_> on wednesday I wow the customer with it
  • [20:21:35] <_av500_> thursday
  • [20:21:40] <stan_> ds2 - if it is easy, what peripherals would you use?
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  • [20:22:57] <ds2> stan_: whatever I happen to have on my bench
  • [20:23:02] <ds2> and my bench is cluttered :(
  • [20:23:36] <_av500_> stan_: also depends on your level of skills
  • [20:23:50] <_av500_> no skill, use usb relay board
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  • [20:24:54] <stan_> av500: so any non-PC-type device control goes through the usb?
  • [20:25:05] <_av500_> no
  • [20:25:06] <ds2> I would not use USB at all
  • [20:25:25] <_av500_> use gpio hooked up to the right drivercircuit
  • [20:25:30] <ds2> yep
  • [20:25:55] <ds2> I think I still have that 2000 peices of 2N2222's lying around somewhere, that's the most likely thing I'll use
  • [20:26:16] * ds2 really likes the 0.1 pitched expansion header.
  • [20:26:25] <stan_> are there peripherals that handle the gpios?
  • [20:26:46] <_av500_> ds2: gotta do sleep stuff, cu
  • [20:27:08] <ds2> _av500_: don't let the bed bugs bite
  • [20:27:14] <_av500_> ja
  • [20:27:15] <ds2> they may not be RoHS compliant ;)
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  • [20:28:03] <stan_> Thanks
  • [20:28:18] <ds2> stan_: what are you trying to control?
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  • [20:30:28] <stan_> ds2: Equipment, like motors, or contact closures, adc's, dac's
  • [20:30:55] <DJWillis> Crofton|work: you may want to take all the mesa ones but the angstrom pref-versions should fix up mesa and Angstrom.
  • [20:30:58] <ds2> stan_: be more specific... what kind of motors? are you talking about driving 3PH 10HP motor or just atiny little DC motor for a vibrator?
  • [20:31:22] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [20:31:26] <Crofton|work> they all look ok
  • [20:31:49] <Crofton|work> driver to figure out the incantation to access the branch
  • [20:32:20] <stan_> ds2: I'm talking about variable frequency drives or other kinds of equipment
  • [20:32:45] <Crofton|work> git remote add openpandora git@git.openpandora.org/openembedded.git ?
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  • [20:33:18] <Crofton|work> git remote add openpandora http://git.openpandora.org/openembedded.git ?
  • [20:33:18] <ds2> stan_: ah... VFDs and friends... that gets complicated but it is probally best to run it through the expansion bus
  • [20:33:51] <_koen_> git://git.openpandora.org/openembedded.git
  • [20:33:57] <ds2> Crofton|work: follow by git remote update
  • [20:34:11] <ds2> then their branches will appear as openpandora/* on your local repo
  • [20:34:55] <Crofton|work> thanks
  • [20:36:53] <stan_> ds2: It could also be battery chargers
  • [20:37:08] <ds2> stan_: the expansion header
  • [20:37:55] <stan_> ds2: That will require custom peripherals? or are there standard peripherals that can be programmed?
  • [20:38:21] <ds2> stan_: custom or if you wait long enough, there will probally be standard stuff
  • [20:38:38] <stan_> ds2: Thanks.
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  • [20:39:53] <Crofton|work> cherry-pick does not find the rev
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  • [20:40:23] <ds2> Crofton|work: does it show up in git log?
  • [20:40:51] <Crofton|work> well, I am in the main oe branch
  • [20:41:08] <ds2> don't matter... do "git log branchname/tagname"
  • [20:41:16] <Crofton|work> shoudl the remote update have given me knowledge of these commits in the openpandora repo?
  • [20:41:26] <ds2> see if the thing you are trying to cherry-pcik is known
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  • [20:41:47] <ds2> yes, the remote update would have grabbed the commits...git log or "git show <id>" should return it
  • [20:41:53] <ds2> if not, your cherry-pick won't work
  • [20:44:07] <Crofton|work> urg
  • [20:44:13] <Crofton|work> I grabbed the wrong branch
  • [20:44:14] <Crofton|work> ok
  • [20:44:26] <ds2> branch? the remote thing grabs the entire repo
  • [20:44:39] <ds2> do 'git branch -a'
  • [20:45:50] <pyr0> hey guys, i need some help with omap35xx specificaton
  • [20:46:52] <pyr0> if anyone knows if the omap 35xx chip has Cross Trigger Interface (CTI), it is a CoreSight debugging component
  • [20:48:38] <pyr0> I have been reading TI documentation and somewher it was mentioned that omap35xx has ETM and ETB, but nothing about CTI
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  • [20:48:48] <Crofton|work> yeah I see the branch
  • [20:51:30] <ds2> you should be able to reference it with the name shown
  • [20:51:45] <ds2> then use the SHA1's
  • [20:51:50] <Crofton|work> hmm, I think the ids are funny
  • [20:51:56] <Crofton|work> not matching the one in the email
  • [20:52:04] <Crofton|work> but I see what to do
  • [20:52:25] <ds2> heh... easier to figure out and understand then to blindly follow recipes :D
  • [20:52:41] <Crofton|work> there is an email with links to the commits
  • [20:53:04] <Crofton|work> this is confusing me, but I can match the commits to the log and get ids that should work
  • [20:53:21] <ds2> they may have been local commit info... pushes can sometime change the id...i.e if the maintainer updates the comments or adds a sign-off-by line
  • [20:53:43] <ds2> or if the commit resulted in a merge or...
  • [20:53:52] <Crofton|work> yeah
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  • [20:59:40] <prpplague> sakoman_: just finished all the basic tests for the trainer board
  • [21:00:57] <prpplague> sakoman_: looks pretty dandy
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  • [21:04:14] <Crofton> ok, cherry-icked
  • [21:04:25] <Crofton> ok, cherry-picked that is
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  • [21:06:14] <ds2> that's the easy part... will it work? ;)
  • [21:06:41] <Crofton> heh
  • [21:06:45] <Crofton> testing now
  • [21:06:48] <DJWillis> Crofton: still got your sanity? I tend to find that gets lost long before GIT remote cherry picks work ;)
  • [21:07:11] <Crofton> the revs are different from the email
  • [21:07:32] <Crofton> I will let you know when I push, hopefully when you update nothing gets broke
  • [21:08:20] <DJWillis> Crofton: What email? And if you mean my repro, yep, I rebase on top of oe.dev regularly so the commit ID's will change.
  • [21:08:29] <ds2> hahaha
  • [21:08:42] <Crofton> heh
  • [21:08:53] <Crofton> yeah, it was a few days old
  • [21:08:59] <Crofton> oddly enough, the links worked ...
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  • [21:10:06] <DJWillis> Crofton: never sure if the rebase stuff is such a good idea but it keeps my work on the top and means it always applies to oe.dev. Shame GIT can't work magic and make my code ok ;-)
  • [21:10:28] <Crofton> well, try not to rebase until I push the commits :)
  • [21:11:11] <ds2> do not rebase if someone else is using your repo
  • [21:11:25] <ds2> or life can get "intersting" for the someone else ;)
  • [21:12:29] <DJWillis> ds2: yep, that's my view, koen however likes me to rebase to keep my commits ontop so he pulls them from there into Angstrom when they come in handy.
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  • [21:15:47] <_koen_> right
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  • [21:15:56] <DJWillis> ;-)
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  • [21:16:55] <DJWillis> ds2: plus, it's the OpenPandora, no one belives it exists anyway so the code is all imaginary ;-)
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  • [21:19:30] <ds2> DJWillis: rumor has it that a production unit has left the factory?
  • [21:20:35] <DJWillis> ds2: life is full of rumor, I honestly don't know how things are going (just that on the whole it's positive and I keep getting firmware bug reports) ;-). Real life and real job have been getting in the way.
  • [21:21:45] <_koen_> Crofton|work: could you also cherry-pick 4c9d400ecfefb053efc2b3e16e423448dc5b1204 and 16f76c3fa9703a5f31a5b5987223475c6db80ade and 367e548595babfcfd7e461139e64712a8a3da359 ?
  • [21:22:55] <Crofton|work> from the same repo?
  • [21:23:17] <_koen_> yes
  • [21:23:37] <_koen_> tslib, zenity and nm
  • [21:23:52] <Crofton|work> gnome-games seems broken, again
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  • [21:30:47] <Crofton|work> DJWillis, do not rebase until I can push the cherry picks :)
  • [21:31:15] <_koen_> Crofton|work: if you don't pull or update remotes rebasing won't matter
  • [21:31:49] <Crofton|work> it won't upset his repo is the commit appears with a different d?
  • [21:32:01] <_koen_> no
  • [21:32:16] <_koen_> it will appear with a different ID no matter what
  • [21:33:10] <Crofton|work> what image, besides demo image is a good check?
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  • [21:33:31] <DJWillis> Crofton|work: I won't but either way when I rebase as long as the content is the same GIT just skips over my commits in favour of the remote ones so then come back into my tree from oe.dev.
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  • [21:56:51] <Crofton|work> ok, pulled gnome-games from demo image, will push after it finished
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  • [23:11:20] <sakoman_> Crofton|work: what breaks with gnome-games? I build that quite often without issue
  • [23:12:17] <Aditya11> hallo
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  • [23:21:08] <sakoman_> koen: the recent introduction of SOC_FAMILY has caused some unintended side effects for me
  • [23:21:34] <sakoman_> you may have noticed that there is now an "omap3" machine config in linux-omap:
  • [23:21:42] <sakoman_> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9a01609e1885b827b979d6d9dd86f43208a9e5fc
  • [23:22:00] <sakoman_> It is used for building multi-machine kernels
  • [23:22:24] <sakoman_> I use that and have created some omap3 machine overrides in my OE repo
  • [23:23:31] <sakoman_> now with SOC_FAMILY having "omap3", the machine overrides for omap3 are picked up even when you building for any mahine in the OMAP3 family!
  • [23:23:51] <sakoman_> and that is not "the right thing" in many cases :-)
  • [23:24:27] <sakoman_> any chance we could change the SOC_FAMILY for omap3 to a slightly different string to avoid this conflict?
  • [23:24:46] <Crofton|work> not sure, commented it out for now
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  • [23:24:59] <Crofton|work> when the image builds and I push, I renable it
  • [23:25:16] <sakoman_> did it just break in the last day or two?
  • [23:25:26] <sakoman_> my last merge was Friday IIRC
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  • [23:25:45] <Crofton|work> not sure
  • [23:25:57] <Crofton|work> I haven't been paying close attention
  • [23:26:09] <Crofton|work> stupid mkfs.ubifs just blew up
  • [23:26:21] <Crofton|work> mkfs.ubifs: double free or corruption
  • [23:26:27] <sakoman_> yeah, it does that quite regularly!
  • [23:26:39] <Crofton|work> not inspiring
  • [23:26:45] <sakoman_> indeed
  • [23:26:54] <Crofton|work> but everything built so i will push
  • [23:27:13] <sakoman_> now don't break anything! ;-)
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  • [23:29:05] <sakoman_> I think I'm going to just comment out SOC_FAMILY for now. It's only used in one recipe as far as I can tell (one that I don't use)
  • [23:31:02] <Crofton|work> basically, the problem is that all armv7a's are not omap3's ....
  • [23:32:06] <sakoman_> actually I think koen put it in to handle the fact that not all users of dsplink are armv7
  • [23:32:34] <sakoman_> so some of the linux utilities need to know that they are running on a dm365
  • [23:33:27] <sakoman_> might make sense to have all the SCO_FAMILY values have soc in the name (i.e omap3-soc)
  • [23:33:53] <sakoman_> that will make it easier to tell that a particular override is for the omap3-soc family
  • [23:34:18] <sakoman_> rather than the omap3 multi-machine config (for example)
  • [23:34:39] <sakoman_> this was a very confusing issue to track down!
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  • [23:42:21] <sakoman_> Crofton|work: what are you doing building demo image? I thought you were a die-hard console man! :-)
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  • [23:44:29] <Crofton|work> I am, but I build it when I can
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  • [23:44:36] <Crofton|work> good test
  • [23:45:23] <Crofton|work> trying to keep things buildable to keep the noise down
  • [23:45:53] <sakoman_> I build it every day
  • [23:46:11] <sakoman_> also a gpe image and a gnome image
  • [23:47:03] <Crofton|work> let me get the gnome games message
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  • [23:56:59] <prpplague> sakoman_: hmm, experiencing a weird problem with dss, i'm getting 3 verticle bars which appears to be duplicated video data
  • [23:57:07] <prpplague> sakoman_: you run across that before?
  • [23:57:25] <sakoman_> prpplague: no, I haven't
  • [23:57:45] <sakoman_> what display driver are you using?
  • [23:58:43] <sakoman_> Crofton|work: I'm building 2.28.1 version of gnome-games, OE is currently at 2.24. So that would explain why I'm not seeing the breakage
  • [23:59:02] <sakoman_> It is in a stack of changes I need to commit
  • [23:59:25] <Crofton|work> hmm
  • [23:59:43] <Crofton|work> I suppose I should figure out how to suck from your repo also
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