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  • [00:53:45] <djlewis> oh, the life... :)
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  • [00:58:26] <carlnorum> Hi folks!
  • [00:58:36] <fish____> Hi Back
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  • [00:58:54] <fish____> I have a question about booting from SD
  • [00:59:23] <fish____> We have an EFI firmware build and one of my co-works figured out how to boot from SD, but can't remember what we did.
  • [00:59:53] <fish____> We have an RVI script that loads our image into memory and we use that a lot. So I know the firmware image is in good shape.
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  • [01:00:16] <fish____> We also prepend the magic header so the ROM will boot us directly.
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  • [01:01:15] <fish____> When we boot from SD it looks like the ROM loads X-Loader into SRAM and X-Loader loads u-boot.bin into RAM
  • [01:02:06] <fish____> What address does u-boot.bin get loaded to (I thought it was 0x80000000 but I don't see that data in the debugger)?
  • [01:02:18] <fish____> Does the u-boot.bin require a header or signature?
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  • [01:17:28] <fish____> I can boot uboot from SD card following http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidation
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  • [01:19:51] <fish____> FYI this EFI firmware project is open sourced, with a BSD license, at https://edk2.tianocore.org/
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  • [01:27:50] <ds2> fish____: does it make sense to use x-loader in that case?
  • [01:29:31] <fish____> Not really? Can I put an image on the SD that will get loaded directly into RAM?
  • [01:30:08] <fish____> I assume MLO will get loaded into SRAM and then load u-boot.bin into DRAM?
  • [01:33:42] <ds2> yes, you can get an image loaded directly from the SD card
  • [01:34:07] <ds2> yes that is the case but MLO/X-Loader is U-boot and they are, AFAIK, GPL
  • [01:34:27] <ds2> what you are describing seems to suggest that one needs GPL'ed code to use BSD code
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  • [01:45:10] <fish____> We have a BSD only solution for an XIP boot
  • [01:46:03] <ds2> prehaps write a replacement for MLO/X-Loader?
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  • [01:58:39] <fish____> Well I guess it is really NAND vs. XIP solution that we have.
  • [01:59:06] <ds2> what do you mean by XIP?
  • [01:59:44] <ds2> XIP in the normal sense wouldn't apply to the BB
  • [01:59:55] <fish____> XIP = eXecute In Place
  • [02:00:26] <fish____> So NOR
  • [02:00:56] <fish____> But we have a NAND based solution
  • [02:01:16] <ds2> right, but there is no NOR
  • [02:01:18] <fish____> So we have the header in NAND that configures memory and then copies the image from the NAND into memory.
  • [02:01:22] <ds2> hence the reason for checking
  • [02:01:40] <ds2> so XIP would be only for the bigger boards, I take it?
  • [02:02:48] <fish____> We don't have an XIP solution. I used the wrong term. Sorry about that.
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  • [02:03:02] <ds2> oh
  • [02:03:23] <ds2> it is nice to have alternative bootloaders
  • [02:04:02] <fish____> The EFI spec added an ARM binding www.uefi.org
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  • [02:05:39] <fish____> And we needed a target ARM platform to port the UEFI Self Certification Test to ARM
  • [02:05:54] <fish____> so beagleboard is the target
  • [02:06:01] <ds2> makes sense
  • [02:06:21] <ds2> now to ask a dumb question - what does EFI have that other bootloaders don't have?
  • [02:09:13] <fish____> EFI is really a firmware boot specification and not a bootloader per say
  • [02:09:33] <fish____> All Itanium(tm) processor based platforms boot using EFI
  • [02:09:39] <fish____> All Macs boot using EFI
  • [02:09:53] <fish____> Lots of PCs are starting boot using EFI or have EFI under the hood
  • [02:10:05] <ds2> so it is functionally equivalent to say "Open PROM" that the Sun machines used to have?
  • [02:10:56] <fish____> Yes, but better.
  • [02:11:05] <ds2> I see.
  • [02:11:48] <fish____> It has a much more scalable model for option ROMs and it is specified as a bunch of C APIs
  • [02:12:29] <fish____> That is why Intel Macs switched to EFI, the PPC Macs where Open Firmware.
  • [02:12:59] <ds2> hmm
  • [02:18:02] <fish____> So back to booting from SD
  • [02:18:03] <fish____> I'
  • [02:18:05] <fish____> m
  • [02:18:22] <fish____> just trying to solve the getting the other image in NAND problem.
  • [02:18:44] <ds2> other image?
  • [02:19:25] <fish____> Yea the beagleboard ships with uboot. So you get the beagleboard and you want to switch it over to EFI
  • [02:19:54] <fish____> You need a way to get EFI into the NAND the 1st time
  • [02:20:24] <fish____> It is also useful to debug via SD card boot if you don't know what you are doing or you are unsure of your change.
  • [02:21:06] <fish____> I think we figured out at some point how to fake out X-Loader to boot our image?
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  • [02:23:01] <fish____> Since we all had JTAG based debuggers internally as soon as we wrote a script to turn on memory and copy our NAND image to memory we used that form development
  • [02:24:03] <fish____> I'm trying to figure out an easy way for folks that want to try out the edk2.tianocore.org open source project to try it on a beagleboard.
  • [02:25:24] <ds2> I don't completely understand why you are doing that (other then prehaps you want to save time)
  • [02:25:45] <fish____> What are my other options?
  • [02:25:55] <ds2> write your own little shim that gets loaded by the OMAP rom code
  • [02:26:11] <ds2> from there you can either try to squeeze everything into SRAM or you can do a second stage load
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  • [02:26:48] <ds2> Using X-loader/MLO is really saying you are using U-boot to load EFI
  • [02:28:15] <ds2> once you have that, you can either have NAND flashing code in EFI or use JTAG to flash NAND
  • [02:29:15] <fish____> Is there a command in U-boot I can use to place the EFI image in the NAND?
  • [02:29:22] <ds2> yep
  • [02:29:35] <ds2> look up nand erase and nand write
  • [02:29:41] <fish____> OK
  • [02:29:46] <ds2> there is a jffs2 version of nand write that will understand bad blocks
  • [02:30:25] <Aditya11> anyone around?
  • [02:30:41] <Aditya11> trying to install stuff using opkg in an image from demo site
  • [02:31:05] <Aditya11> "Unable to open the control file in set_flags_from_control"
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  • [02:34:10] <Aditya11> any ideas?
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  • [02:35:46] <djlewis> Aditya11: Hi, still no opkg install?
  • [02:35:56] <Aditya11> yeah
  • [02:36:20] <Aditya11> I tried the stable release
  • [02:36:32] <djlewis> yep we talked yesterday.
  • [02:36:38] <Aditya11> but in that one, the modules wouldn't load
  • [02:37:02] <djlewis> in stable you sudo cp the module file to the ext2 partition
  • [02:37:11] <djlewis> then yhou sudo tar -xvf it
  • [02:37:17] <djlewis> on your pc.
  • [02:37:19] <Aditya11> thats what I did
  • [02:37:27] <djlewis> did it install properly?
  • [02:37:28] <Aditya11> it had the modules in the right folders
  • [02:37:35] <djlewis> no errors?
  • [02:37:40] <Aditya11> lots lol
  • [02:37:46] <Aditya11> kept saying invalid module format
  • [02:37:49] <djlewis> shold not have been.
  • [02:38:26] <djlewis> on a fresh SD after tgar -xvjf the image then tar -xvf the module
  • [02:38:39] <djlewis> it should install cleanly
  • [02:38:46] <Aditya11> I mean I dont know thats what I did...
  • [02:38:47] <djlewis> I have done it many times
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  • [02:38:53] <Aditya11> hmm
  • [02:39:05] <Aditya11> have you tried r47 specifically?
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  • [02:39:20] <djlewis> yes with stable. I have it working here.
  • [02:39:32] <djlewis> the r47 matches the stable
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  • [02:40:27] <djlewis> you do it under admin on your pc ex: with sudo for Ubuntu
  • [02:40:58] <djlewis> otherwise you gets tons of errors and nothing really happens
  • [02:41:30] <djlewis> during tar -xvf
  • [02:42:22] <Aditya11> yeah
  • [02:42:31] <Aditya11> I mean the image boots fine
  • [02:42:35] <Aditya11> it even finds the modules
  • [02:42:41] <Aditya11> the problem is it says invalid module format
  • [02:42:48] <Aditya11> which I dont know why
  • [02:43:01] <djlewis> that might happen with a mismatched modules to kernel.
  • [02:43:11] <Aditya11> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/294367c7a7110a68
  • [02:43:12] <Aditya11> like that
  • [02:43:20] <Aditya11> I used r47 image and modules though
  • [02:43:55] <djlewis> are you using DSP too?
  • [02:44:07] <Aditya11> I am trying to yes
  • [02:44:14] <Aditya11> which is why I am trying to load those modules
  • [02:44:33] <djlewis> That is something else. I only installed modules for device support.
  • [02:44:52] <Aditya11> yeah, the basic stuff works fine
  • [02:45:00] <Aditya11> like usb ethernet
  • [02:45:03] <djlewis> OK, I follow you now.
  • [02:45:21] <Aditya11> thats been my only real problem really so far
  • [02:45:24] <djlewis> you need a DSP / modules guru..
  • [02:45:35] <Aditya11> I got linux working fine on bb like on day 2
  • [02:45:38] <djlewis> :)
  • [02:45:55] <Aditya11> the DSP part however, its completely frustrating me :/
  • [02:46:04] <djlewis> your week is getting shorter :(
  • [02:46:29] <Aditya11> my week?
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  • [02:46:52] <djlewis> I might be mixing you with another person. Had a week to do scool project.
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  • [02:47:00] <djlewis> school
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  • [02:47:37] <Aditya11> oh
  • [02:47:48] <Aditya11> no, I got this thing like a month or two ago
  • [02:47:52] <Aditya11> been working on it on and off
  • [02:47:59] <djlewis> seems like I played with DSP one night a while back.
  • [02:48:09] <djlewis> just to get a taste of it.
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  • [02:53:34] <djlewis> I dont seem to have any notes on it though...
  • [02:54:51] <Aditya11> meh
  • [02:54:59] <Aditya11> "opkg install make"
  • [02:55:12] <Aditya11> "Package make (3.81) installled in root is up to date."
  • [02:55:15] <Aditya11> "make
  • [02:55:22] <Aditya11> "sh: make: not found"
  • [02:55:32] <Aditya11> * sigh *
  • [02:55:33] <Aditya11> fail
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  • [02:55:57] <djlewis> did you instgall task-native-sdk ?
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  • [02:59:42] <Aditya11> what's that?
  • [02:59:57] <djlewis> the BB toolchain
  • [03:01:02] <Aditya11> is that something I do on the target?
  • [03:01:04] <djlewis> instgall = install
  • [03:01:15] <djlewis> you tried to make on BB?
  • [03:01:28] <Aditya11> I am trying to install make on bb yes
  • [03:02:04] <Aditya11> its just this simple message example I downloaded for the dsp
  • [03:02:34] <djlewis> opkg install task-native-sdk cpp gccmakedep
  • [03:02:56] <djlewis> one of the last two may no longer be there.
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  • [03:03:52] <djlewis> well if you ned to compile a c, c++ you need the stuff
  • [03:05:48] <Aditya11> same thing meh
  • [03:06:01] <Aditya11> a bunch of fork failed errors
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  • [03:58:25] <Aditya11> eeeh?
  • [03:59:58] <djlewis1> 25F and dropping 2F/hr
  • [04:00:33] <Aditya11> its not as cold here but yeah
  • [04:00:41] <djlewis1> moving a dvd iso so I can write it.
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  • [04:04:36] <Aditya11> djlewis1: you just stating random things you are doing at this point? lol
  • [04:04:56] * djlewis1 is bored..
  • [04:05:27] <Aditya11> I am watching "task 16 of 4578"
  • [04:05:33] <Aditya11> * sigh *
  • [04:05:43] <djlewis1> sounds like progress.
  • [04:05:58] <Aditya11> hmm?
  • [04:05:59] <Aditya11> no really
  • [04:06:04] <Aditya11> building an OE image myself
  • [04:06:12] <djlewis1> you are into OE now?
  • [04:06:16] <djlewis1> yep
  • [04:06:34] <djlewis1> is it the first?
  • [04:07:45] * djlewis1 finds some recipes that are not ready to cook.
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  • [04:09:02] <Aditya11> well I've tried OE before
  • [04:09:10] <Aditya11> but I found some errors in my process in following the guide
  • [04:09:13] <Aditya11> so going to try it again
  • [04:09:23] <Aditya11> seems like its a good way to get an image with the latest fixes
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  • [07:06:02] <crwper> Aditya11: Building OE here, too. Task 822 of 2133.
  • [07:06:23] <Aditya11> meh
  • [07:06:28] <gaurang> I have download uImage-2.6.29-r37 on angstrom website
  • [07:06:28] <Aditya11> you're ahead!
  • [07:07:03] <Aditya11> I am on 127 out of 4578
  • [07:07:12] <crwper> Ouch.
  • [07:07:18] <gaurang> and i have used stable file system on built 12062009
  • [07:07:55] <Aditya11> err
  • [07:07:58] <gaurang> I want to add sgx support in my recent file
  • [07:08:07] <Aditya11> why are oyu pinging me crwper
  • [07:08:30] <crwper> Adityall: Was just curious what time it is over there. About time to make it an overnight build for me.
  • [07:08:48] <gaurang> and install opengl support
  • [07:09:17] <crwper> Agh, Aditya11, that is. ^
  • [07:11:59] <crwper> I'm off. OE can build on its own. TTYL!
  • [07:18:37] <Aditya11> about to do the same
  • [07:18:39] <Aditya11> later
  • [07:19:02] <Aditya11> gaurang, the demo images are supposed to have open gl and dsp support
  • [07:19:07] <Aditya11> I haven't had much luck
  • [07:19:10] <Aditya11> but others seem to
  • [07:19:14] <Aditya11> hang around for a bit
  • [07:19:16] <Aditya11> someone will help
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  • [08:45:12] <hrw> morning
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  • [09:11:19] <_koen_> good morning all
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  • [09:42:19] <nitin_> I have a board with 3503
  • [09:42:29] <nitin_> took git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git kernel
  • [09:42:59] <nitin_> getting errors omapfb omapfb: no displays
  • [09:42:59] <nitin_> omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb
  • [09:42:59] <nitin_> omapfb: probe of omapfb failed with error -22
  • [09:43:18] <nitin_> Can some one give me some pointers on it
  • [09:43:31] <nitin_> I am using beagle boards config file
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  • [09:54:25] <hansdampf> hi there
  • [09:54:29] <hansdampf> little question
  • [09:54:50] <hansdampf> put a ubuntu 9.10 to a beagle board an now no usb devices are recognized
  • [09:55:32] <mru> morning
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  • [10:01:09] <av500> gm
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  • [11:23:26] <rkirti> good morning
  • [11:23:26] <gaurang> how to install sdk on beagleboard
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  • [11:38:10] <hrw> morning
  • [11:38:25] <hrw> gaurang: 'opkg update;opkg install task-native-sdk'
  • [11:38:35] <hrw> or task-sdk-native - do not remember
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  • [12:03:52] <omar> Hi! What is difference btw arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc and arm-none-eabi-gcc?
  • [12:08:30] <gaurang> how to change video resolution on beagleboard
  • [12:09:30] <adj> omar: the first one is for building applications for linux
  • [12:10:04] <gaurang> i have seted 'omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60'
  • [12:10:40] <gaurang> but it have taken 24-bit play video in mplayer
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  • [12:27:28] <mru> I recommend sticking with 16-bit rgb for the main graphics
  • [12:27:41] <mru> mplayer should use the overlay so you get 24-bit there anyway
  • [12:28:06] <mru> well, you get yuv converted to 24-bit rgb by the hardware
  • [12:29:16] <av500> 16bit? that gives ugly color bands, no? :)
  • [12:29:56] <mru> chances are his display is only 18-bit anyway...
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  • [12:41:41] <gaurang> yes,mplayer is overlay,so which palyer use for play video?
  • [12:42:07] <gaurang> i got some dot box in video
  • [12:45:44] <omar> adj, thanks. So, if my beagleboard has ubuntu installed I should download arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc, and if my bb has angstorm installed I should download arm-none-eabi-gcc. Am I right?
  • [12:46:56] <mru> no
  • [12:48:01] <omar> please,correct me
  • [12:48:17] <mru> ask _koen_ about angstrom
  • [12:50:39] <omar> Ok. I 'm paraphrasing my question: My host system is on Ubuntu 9.04, my beagleboard rev. c3 has Angstorm installed. What compiler do I need?
  • [12:51:06] <_koen_> omar: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
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  • [12:59:45] <Crofton|work> _koen_, we need a better answer than that :)
  • [13:00:35] <_koen_> Crofton|work: people that ask that kind of questions aren't helped with a toolchain and/or SDK
  • [13:01:11] <Crofton|work> but we still need a better answer
  • [13:01:26] <av500> 42!
  • [13:02:42] <adj> omar: it's quite safe to say that when you need arm-none-eabi-gcc you will understand the basic difference between those two. That is, for now don't use arm-none-eabi-gcc :)
  • [13:05:37] <_koen_> Crofton|work: you're welcome to answer http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/, but then you'd be stuck supporting it
  • [13:07:18] <omar> Thanks for help, but it's not your deal do or don't I need arm-none-eabi-gcc ;)
  • [13:08:54] <av500> yes, but why is angstrom less linux than ubuntu?
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  • [13:09:36] <omar> I didn't say that
  • [13:10:17] <adj> omar: do you compile your applications for anything other than linux?
  • [13:12:12] <omar> no
  • [13:12:24] <adj> then, you don't need arm-none-eabi-gcc
  • [13:15:36] <nitin_> hello av500
  • [13:16:56] <omar> arm-none-eabi- is for bare metal
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  • [13:17:53] <av500> nitin_:
  • [13:20:04] <nitin_> I got the latest omap linux git kernel working on my board
  • [13:20:23] <nitin_> And experimenting with sysfs interface
  • [13:20:57] <nitin_> Want the graphics window on top with 50% transparency
  • [13:21:23] <nitin_> video 2 with 100% transparency
  • [13:21:39] <nitin_> and want to see video being played on video 1
  • [13:22:02] <nitin_> Doesn't seem to be working though
  • [13:22:19] <nitin_> I mean I am able to set the transparency for the graphics window
  • [13:22:42] <nitin_> but not able to see video on video1
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  • [13:30:12] <mru> morning djlewis
  • [13:31:41] <djlewis> good frosty, -11C morning to you mru :)
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  • [13:33:13] <mru> sunshine here
  • [13:33:52] <djlewis> sounds nice
  • [13:34:06] <djlewis> we have clear skies too.
  • [13:34:21] <djlewis> suns not quite up yet.
  • [13:35:07] <mru> only 10C here though
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  • [13:35:32] <djlewis> mmm, toasty
  • [13:41:40] <djlewis> just went out and shot at some big ol birds pecking on my home.
  • [13:42:15] <djlewis> harmless but scary rat shot (unless up close)
  • [13:43:22] * djlewis needs a laser cannon to precook the little bas*^@%s
  • [13:46:24] <mru> get a cat
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  • [13:49:57] <moiu> Good evening
  • [13:50:40] <moiu> Can I use CodeSourcery G++ for cross compilation? Or it's possible only with OpenEmbedded?
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  • [13:55:19] <jkridner|work> good morning all.
  • [13:55:36] <moiu> hi
  • [13:55:44] <mru> morning jkridner|work
  • [13:55:44] <jkridner|work> hi moiu
  • [13:55:47] <jkridner|work> hi mru
  • [13:57:42] <moiu> I'm trying to download Sourcery G++ Lite Edition for ARM . Why EABI is marked as Operation system? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_binary_interface says EABI is an interface
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  • [14:00:09] <florian> hi jkridner|work
  • [14:02:24] <Aditya11> can anyone here help me with some problems with opkg?
  • [14:02:42] <Aditya11> I am using an image from the beagleboard demo image site
  • [14:02:53] <Aditya11> the dsplink and cmemk stuff loads fine
  • [14:02:59] <Aditya11> but I cant use opkg for some reason
  • [14:04:00] <Crofton> what is the exact problem?
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  • [14:04:16] <djlewis> good morning Aditya11
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  • [14:05:45] <Aditya11> Crofton: I keep getting this problem: "Unable to open the control file in set_flags_from_control"
  • [14:06:15] <Aditya11> I am trying to see if I can get away with a prebuilt image, this one seems to work great except for this opkg part
  • [14:06:27] <Aditya11> well actually I shouldn't say great
  • [14:06:44] <Aditya11> because I haven't been able to make any demos to run them to see if the dsp stuff works
  • [14:06:57] <Aditya11> ... because I can't install make
  • [14:09:10] <Crofton> did you try opkg update?
  • [14:10:37] <Aditya11> yeah
  • [14:10:41] <Aditya11> opkg update completes fine
  • [14:10:46] <Aditya11> jsut cant install anything
  • [14:10:54] <Aditya11> I tried installing make
  • [14:11:04] <Aditya11> it fails with a bunch of "opkg: fork failed"
  • [14:11:11] <Aditya11> and then that error about not opening control file
  • [14:11:18] <Aditya11> and then it returns to prompt
  • [14:11:30] <Aditya11> if I put in opkg install make again, the system things make is installed
  • [14:11:34] <Aditya11> and says "make is up to date"
  • [14:11:41] <Aditya11> but if I type in make into the console, its not found
  • [14:11:53] <Aditya11> (and its not anywhere in my /bin, /usr/bin /sbin)
  • [14:12:42] <jkridner|work> hi florian
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  • [14:19:39] <Aditya11> anyone?
  • [14:20:55] <Crofton|work> not sure, my beagle is not connected to the net so I can't test
  • [14:22:52] <kblin> not running an opkg-based system
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  • [14:25:40] <Aditya11> do either of you guys use the DSP?
  • [14:29:18] <Crofton|work> not yet ....
  • [14:30:04] <Aditya11> hmm
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  • [14:45:51] <av500> I do
  • [14:48:38] <Aditya11> av500: what do you use?
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  • [14:53:19] <av500> the dsp
  • [14:54:18] * mru expected that answer
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  • [14:55:17] <av500> mru: I learned from the best
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  • [15:06:07] <Aditya11> av500: I meant what build/distro etc
  • [15:07:16] <av500> Aditya11: it is a somewhat commercial product
  • [15:09:18] <Aditya11> oh
  • [15:09:37] <av500> distro is homegrown, based on buildroot
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  • [15:10:53] <Aditya|work> ah
  • [15:10:56] <Aditya|work> well I guess I am off
  • [15:11:15] <av500> but the dsp is supported in angstrom too...
  • [15:16:10] <djlewis> interesting, booting Ubuntu 9.10 off a thumbdrive on a wkstn.
  • [15:16:34] <djlewis> looks just like the 'live cd' version.
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  • [16:25:23] <CountDown> Hello, hello. I'm still looking to customize the Beagle Board splash screen. As far as I can tell, the first splash screen that appears (the cute dog with beagleboard.org and a white background) in the demo image is written to NAND somewhere. Should I be looking at the beagle branch of u-boot? I cloned git://gitorious.org/beagleboard/mainline.git and have been digging through the code, but can't find any trace of that logo, either
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  • [16:26:58] <ZeZu> CountDown, i'm not 100% sure, but that may be in the non programmable area
  • [16:27:18] <ZeZu> its certainly not part of u-boot
  • [16:27:23] <CountDown> Ah, so only flashed at the factory?
  • [16:27:28] <ZeZu> yes
  • [16:27:42] <ZeZu> like i said, i'm not positive, but fairly sure
  • [16:27:55] <CountDown> That would explain why I can't find the logo anywhere.
  • [16:28:51] <CountDown> OK, how about the secondary logo that appears in the upper lefthand corner of the terminal during boot?
  • [16:29:10] <CountDown> The one that is usually Tux, but has been changed to be a banner image of "beagleboard.org"?
  • [16:29:19] <prpplague> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot
  • [16:30:27] <CountDown> prpplague: Thanks. Is that for the first or second splash screen?
  • [16:30:48] <prpplague> CountDown: first
  • [16:31:14] <CountDown> prpplague: Ah, so it's not factory flashed in nonprogrammable memory?
  • [16:31:20] <prpplague> no
  • [16:31:21] <ZeZu> hm
  • [16:31:27] <ZeZu> good news then
  • [16:32:01] <ZeZu> I must have missed it since its obv. not in repos., and its been about a year since i've worked on beagle ;(
  • [16:32:06] <ZeZu> mine broke
  • [16:32:06] <CountDown> Interesting. I'll check it out. Strange that there's two repos for beagle board u-boot. Is the first one I mentioned a red herring?
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  • [16:43:41] <_koen_> if uboot has a splash screen, it's broken
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  • [16:47:43] <mru> unfortunately the converse is not true
  • [16:50:15] <CountDown> Maybe I should take a step back -- I need everything, including the splash screen, to be displayed over s-video. Will I need to modify u-boot in order to replace the test pattern the demo displays on the video out with what's normally displayed on the DVI out?
  • [16:53:09] <CountDown> Or should I just deal with that in bootargs and suffer the test pattern for a short time?
  • [16:55:44] <av500> CountDown: you can disable the test pattern for a start
  • [16:55:52] <av500> then you have at least a blank screen
  • [16:56:10] <CountDown> av500: Do I do that by modifying u-boot?
  • [16:56:12] <wandern> Note: Consulting hours for line 8 were zero-rated for compliance with SOW:
  • [16:56:12] <wandern> 960 hours from 3/30 to 9/30
  • [16:56:17] <wandern> err. oops
  • [16:56:18] <av500> CountDown: sure
  • [16:56:19] <wandern> wrong window
  • [16:56:36] <av500> wandern: I get 10% ok? :)
  • [16:56:56] <wandern> Sure, you get 10% of those hours that were zero rated
  • [16:57:02] <CountDown> av500: Great, thanks. That will be a good test to see if I'm at least doing it properly.
  • [16:57:10] <CountDown> wandern: I'll take the rest. :)
  • [16:57:11] <wandern> heck, take 15%
  • [16:57:18] <wandern> Countdown gets the rest of zero
  • [16:57:52] <av500> CountDown: and then you are of course free to program the omap3 to output a nice image from uboot
  • [16:58:17] <CountDown> av500: Using the patch that prpplague pointed me to?
  • [16:58:27] <wandern> <--- wants his beagleboard to play with. Stupid out-of-stock issues
  • [16:58:35] <CountDown> I'm going through the patch now.
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  • [16:58:57] <CountDown> Maybe I'll try applying the patch first and just seeing what happens with that u-boot image.
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  • [17:01:58] <av500> CountDown: what patch?
  • [17:02:28] <CountDown> av500: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot
  • [17:03:14] <CountDown> av500: There's mention of a patch for including the u-boot splash screen.
  • [17:03:39] <av500> yes, but on DVI or svideo?
  • [17:04:06] <CountDown> That's for the DVI.
  • [17:04:47] <CountDown> av500: You don't think I'll be able to redirect from DVI to s-video? (I'm new at this.)
  • [17:06:25] <av500> i did not say that
  • [17:06:55] <CountDown> av500: But do you think it's possible?
  • [17:06:55] <av500> actually, svideo should be far easier as that is builtin to the omap3 and does not involve the DVI framer
  • [17:07:00] <av500> of course it is
  • [17:07:11] <av500> the cpu supports it, uboot run on the cpu
  • [17:07:16] <CountDown> That's what I like to hear!
  • [17:07:28] <av500> but it involves fiddling with the code and actually doing it
  • [17:07:42] <mru> oooh, scary
  • [17:07:43] <av500> which is different from a kernel command line change :)
  • [17:07:49] <CountDown> That sounds OK to me.
  • [17:07:55] <av500> ok, go!
  • [17:07:56] <av500> :)
  • [17:08:00] <CountDown> I just need to figure out where to fiddle. :)
  • [17:08:21] <av500> find uboot with a working DVI splsh screen, then look inside where DVI is setup
  • [17:08:31] <av500> then read the TRM on svideo output and voila
  • [17:08:46] <CountDown> What's the TRM?
  • [17:09:08] <av500> the tech ref manual
  • [17:09:25] <CountDown> Ah, RTFM. :)
  • [17:09:37] <av500> RTFTRM!
  • [17:09:47] <CountDown> Even better.
  • [17:10:30] <CountDown> av500: Is there a way to simply redirect the output from DVI to video without the need to rewrite the splash screen code?
  • [17:10:58] <CountDown> make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-
  • [17:11:03] <CountDown> D'oh
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  • [17:11:30] <av500> CountDown: redirect = do not setup DVI, setup svideo instead
  • [17:12:23] <CountDown> OK, thanks for the pointers. I'll report back.
  • [17:12:39] <CountDown> Any further pointers are of course appreciated!
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  • [17:19:19] <memento_mori> Hey, I wondered if anyone had come across this as a build error for OE: "NOTE: Running task 630 of 669 (ID: 316, /home/pie/OE/openembedded/recipes/ncurses/ncurses_5.4.bb, do_install)
  • [17:19:20] <memento_mori> ERROR: function do_install failed"
  • [17:19:31] <memento_mori> I'm getting this in the do_install log : "/home/pie/OE/tmp/cross/armv7a/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.3.1/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses"
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  • [17:19:55] <memento_mori> I can't undestand why it's dying, the config is identical to that of my laptop, and the laptop builds OE OK.
  • [17:20:37] <memento_mori> Which leads me to think it's a package problem
  • [17:20:57] <memento_mori> although I'm also pretty sure I've installed all the recommended packages from the angstrom-distribution website
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  • [17:21:36] <memento_mori> been stuck on this for the last week or so now, and my head is beginning to hurt from banging it against the wall so much...
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  • [17:24:41] <mru> try holding a pillow against the wall where you're banging your head
  • [17:24:51] <memento_mori> now there's a top tip :)
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  • [17:28:36] <CountDown> I'm developing on an Ubuntu machine and don't have Code Sourcery. When trying to build u-boot with
  • [17:28:36] <CountDown> make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-
  • [17:28:36] <CountDown> I get a bunch of these errors:
  • [17:28:36] <CountDown> make[1]: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Command not found
  • [17:28:47] <CountDown> I have gcc (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) 4.3.3
  • [17:29:07] <CountDown> Any idea what my make command should be in that case?
  • [17:30:55] * _koen_ suggests to use openembedded
  • [17:31:54] <CountDown> I'll check it out, thanks.
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  • [18:18:14] <ds2> Morning
  • [18:18:27] <mru> morning
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  • [18:27:46] <wandern> afternoon
  • [18:39:21] <_av500_> gm
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  • [19:10:35] <CountDown> _koen_: I've installed openembedded and the stable version of Angstrom is building as I type. Seems to be going fine so far. There's mention of how to build a custom u-boot image using OE at the bottom of http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardOpenEmbeddedDevelopment. Is that what you would also recommend?
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  • [19:14:52] <Crofton> depends on how good you are at figuring things out :)
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  • [19:15:39] <CountDown> Crofton: I suppose the less I have to figure out, the better. Is there a shorter path?
  • [19:16:48] <CountDown> As background, I've never used openembedded before. I've done plenty of low-level embedded development, but nothing as large as or involving Linux before.
  • [19:16:59] <Crofton> XorA, has been blogging some guides
  • [19:17:18] <CountDown> Link?
  • [19:17:34] <Crofton|work> http://www.xora.org.uk/2009/12/10/openembeddedangstom-new-package-workflow-eyeos/
  • [19:17:53] <Crofton|work> also look for his kernel one, that may help with yourt u-boot case
  • [19:21:12] <CountDown> Crofton|work: Thanks! Also, seems like the denx u-boot tree might have something: http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG/UBootSplashScreen
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  • [20:06:17] <dcordes> good morning
  • [20:06:48] * jkridner|work just discovers elphel.
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  • [20:09:27] <_koen_> jkridner|work: then you should have payed more attention to the beagleboard contest :)
  • [20:09:39] <jkridner|work> probably.
  • [20:10:18] <_koen_> jkridner|work: http://beagleboard.org/project/Apertus/
  • [20:10:21] <jkridner|work> is Apertus completed?
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  • [20:12:57] <jkridner|work> I forget these things quickly. They have to reach a point of critical mass.
  • [20:13:44] <jkridner|work> There are some great project entries, but we need to see some of these projects cross the finish line.
  • [20:14:01] <mru> like I've been saying, most of them are way too ambitious
  • [20:14:27] <mru> I'm only voting for things I think look remotely possible to accomplish
  • [20:14:49] <ds2> has anything really crossed the finish line? there were some promising status reports
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  • [20:16:52] <jkridner|work> there are a handful with notable progress. i liked the picoFlamingo update. Gentoo continues to move ahead.
  • [20:16:55] * mru goes to move the finish line a little further up
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  • [21:10:55] * sakoman just notices http://www.technexion.com/
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  • [21:12:34] <prpplague> sakoman: i tried ordering one of those but they kept giving me the run around
  • [21:12:42] <prpplague> sakoman: i tried for almost 2 weeks
  • [21:13:34] <sakoman> prpplague: So the "Buy now" doesn't work?
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  • [21:14:59] <prpplague> sakoman: didn't for me
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  • [21:15:49] <prpplague> sakoman: maybe they;ve gotten it fixed
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  • [21:17:09] <sakoman> prpplague: just clicked it and it took me to paypal login screen
  • [21:17:23] <prpplague> hmm
  • [21:17:30] <prpplague> they must have gotten it working then
  • [21:17:32] <prpplague> good luck
  • [21:17:33] <sakoman> Not really interested in buying one since there is so little ram
  • [21:17:34] <prpplague> :)
  • [21:17:50] <_av500_> prpplague: they even have a 12V compliant board: http://www.technexion.com/index.php/tim-5690 :)
  • [21:18:19] <prpplague> _av500_: ??
  • [21:19:24] <_av500_> it takes 12V :)
  • [21:19:36] <prpplague> ok
  • [21:19:58] <prpplague> _av500_: not sure what your point is
  • [21:20:08] <mru> 12V is the point
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  • [21:20:21] <mru> see the V? it's pointy
  • [21:20:32] <Crofton> I so need to label my power supplies
  • [21:20:40] <_av500_> mru: found some short 6x720p clips
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  • [21:24:46] <jayabharath> Does anyone know where I can find more details on the expansion connector on hawkboard?
  • [21:25:40] <_av500_> http://www.hawkboard.org/
  • [21:26:13] <_av500_> but not yet, i fear :)
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  • [21:27:22] <jayabharath> _av500_: Yeah I check it out... but I could not find this details.. perhaps I will ping khasim who gave the presentation on it on the etechday recently... thanks!!
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  • [21:59:44] <soundcyst> does anyone know of a place that actually has a beagleboard in stock?
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  • [22:01:15] <soundcyst> and mouser's claiming a lead time of 29 weeks....
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  • [22:04:59] <_av500_> atm only in india
  • [22:05:11] <mru> _av500_: do they still have stock?
  • [22:05:30] <_av500_> no idea, the pure mention so far has made ppl refrain from orderin :)
  • [22:05:42] <mru> they were the last to have stock
  • [22:06:05] <_av500_> mru: now its down to you, koen and me :)
  • [22:06:35] * _av500_ is gold plating the hdmi port
  • [22:07:25] <mru> I have a special, very rare, rev B with usb port
  • [22:08:23] <mru> if it works? what do you mean?
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  • [22:08:39] <_av500_> now is the time to sell :)
  • [22:08:52] <ds2> how many do you need and what is your offer?
  • [22:08:53] <ds2> :D
  • [22:09:25] <ds2> /j #bb-brokage ;)
  • [22:10:23] * _av500_ wants to short sell them
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  • [22:10:37] <_av500_> pay me now, get them in february
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  • [22:15:27] <ds2> I wish the TI estore had a working order status page...sigh
  • [22:17:35] <_av500_> what are you estoring at?
  • [22:19:26] <ds2> eh?
  • [22:19:39] <soundcyst> lol
  • [22:19:44] <soundcyst> i only want one
  • [22:20:03] <ds2> the page would say the order is shipped but then it says back ordered...this is a 1 item order
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  • [22:53:28] <Guest52801> hello, im looking to switch from angstrom to an ubuntu version. places i have looked say that the MLO file is not needed, nor is U-boot.bin. so without u-boot.bin how would i change the expansion bays mux settings??
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  • [22:55:03] <sakoman> Guest52801: I would not trust any source that tells you such things!
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  • [22:55:36] <sakoman> the omap will not boot without mlo/x-load and u-boot
  • [22:55:48] <mru> sakoman: well, the nokia devices don't use them...
  • [22:56:14] <sakoman> mru: I was referring to the ubuntu use case
  • [22:56:32] <mru> I'm sure the nokia loader can start an ubuntu kernel...
  • [22:56:37] <sakoman> obviously it is possible to replace the boot loaders, as both Nokia and Palm do
  • [22:56:50] <janneg> motorola too
  • [22:57:00] <ojn> you don't even need one. you can use the configuration header in the binary if you really want to (but you get limited in the size of your kernel. severly limited :-)
  • [22:57:03] <Crofton|work> sakoman, btw, they featured the Palm Pre on Survivor the other week
  • [22:57:17] <ojn> http://nishanthmenon.blogspot.com/2009/05/configuration-header-no-more-x-loader.html
  • [22:57:35] <Guest52801> sakoman: mru: so if i were to switch angstrom to ubuntu i would still need the 3files in the FAT side?
  • [22:57:55] <ojn> Guest52801: yes
  • [22:57:57] <mru> yes
  • [22:58:03] <mru> so you might as well just stick with angstrom
  • [22:58:08] <ojn> ick
  • [22:58:54] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [22:59:13] <Crofton|work> people can piss and moan all the want, still the fastest way to get going :)
  • [22:59:20] <Guest52801> thanks, i cant imagine there been much difference between angstrom and ubuntu anyway, im only using it in command mode. was just thinking my wifi might work better in ubuntu...
  • [22:59:57] <Crofton|work> mostly that depends on what people have to test with
  • [23:00:19] <Crofton|work> anyway, the Angstrom guys are more fun
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  • [23:00:27] <NishanthMenon> ojn, Disclaimer: mine is only for GP devices ;) HS devices on certain devices may need more... like CSST..
  • [23:00:42] <Crofton|work> well, mru is fun, but he isn't one of us
  • [23:00:55] <Crofton|work> Although he did a really good job at the OE stand during FOSDEM
  • [23:01:00] <NishanthMenon> ojn, in case of actual products CSST also wont do.. for the initial boot
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  • [23:01:18] <NishanthMenon> ojn, it has to be handled by specific vendor
  • [23:01:21] <ojn> nishanthmenon: ah, good to know.
  • [23:01:27] <Guest52801> well all i know is that my ubuntu machine likes connecting my wifi, but my bb doesnt! thourt it might have been angstroms fault...
  • [23:01:40] <Crofton|work> patches welcome
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  • [23:02:25] <mru> Crofton|work: coming to fosdem again?
  • [23:02:40] <Crofton|work> I hope so
  • [23:02:52] <mru> we're doing an ffmpeg stand this time
  • [23:02:54] <Crofton|work> work is going to get hectic though
  • [23:02:57] <Crofton|work> cool
  • [23:02:57] <mru> expect beagles
  • [23:03:54] <Crofton|work> ok, there is the embedded/mobile track
  • [23:05:04] <Crofton|work> did you receive a stand notification
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  • [23:06:19] <mru> yes
  • [23:07:24] <ds2> BAH on Angstrom
  • [23:07:56] <mru> ds2: what do you run?
  • [23:08:13] <ds2> kernel plus a bare rootfs
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  • [23:18:48] <djlewis_> hi guys...
  • [23:19:01] <djlewis_> looks like it was 'pick on sakoman ' day
  • [23:19:25] <XorA> Crofton|work: no FOSDEM for me :-(
  • [23:19:30] <Crofton> bummer
  • [23:19:41] <Crofton> well, unless you are making money
  • [23:19:49] <XorA> ~curse them moving to the earlyier sot
  • [23:19:56] <djlewis_> Guest94282: i expect you will have as much difficulty with wifi on Ubuntu as Angstrom.
  • [23:20:01] <Crofton> sot?
  • [23:20:09] <Crofton> earlier in Feb?
  • [23:20:15] <Crofton> yeah, I do not like that either
  • [23:20:30] <djlewis_> Guest94282: wifi fixes are well documented on the beagleboard google list.
  • [23:21:15] <XorA> s/sot/slot/
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