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  • [00:08:13] <ds2> arrrg
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  • [00:09:00] <mru> careful, you might damage the wall
  • [00:09:23] <snowman> lol
  • [00:10:05] <mru> snowman: have you seen his head?
  • [00:10:10] <ds2> 21 weeks leadtime
  • [00:10:12] <ds2> :(
  • [00:10:26] <mru> for?
  • [00:10:32] <ds2> level translators
  • [00:10:39] <snowman> mru: nope
  • [00:10:41] <ds2> damn glue parts are killing me
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  • [00:10:54] <snowman> and I don't want to :-)
  • [00:10:56] <ds2> back to layout
  • [00:11:21] <mru> what are you building?
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  • [00:12:18] <atmosx> mru: when i saw similar I mean similar by design
  • [00:12:24] <atmosx> s/saw/say
  • [00:12:31] <atmosx> I should probably go get some sleep.
  • [00:13:43] <ds2> an interface
  • [00:13:46] <ds2> BB related
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  • [00:16:24] <snowman> how is buying a beagleboard any different than getting an intel atom board and the other parts to make it functional? what does it really have over just programming and doing other stuff on a normal computer?
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  • [00:17:30] <mru> it's more fun
  • [00:20:25] <snowman> lol how? you have to do everything over a rs232 port? (or whatever the serial port is)
  • [00:20:53] <mru> you get to hang out in this irc channel.. how is that not more fun?
  • [00:21:13] <mru> and what makes you believe you only have rs232 interface?
  • [00:21:38] <snowman> this irc makes me feel stupid... I never said only
  • [00:22:05] <mru> rs232 is mostly useful for doing stuff with u-boot
  • [00:22:23] <mru> under linux you can connect a keyboard and mouse over usb or use ssh
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  • [00:23:02] <snowman> I'm saying before you have an os in there
  • [00:23:29] <snowman> ssh makes life a lot easier though
  • [00:23:46] <ShadowJK> an atom board is kinda larger.. and hungry
  • [00:23:58] <mru> atom is just a slow pc
  • [00:24:01] <mru> no fun in that
  • [00:24:32] <snowman> well way defines a pc? x86?
  • [00:24:40] <ShadowJK> it was fun while mine wasn't working :-)
  • [00:25:07] <snowman> what defines*
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  • [00:25:55] <djlewis> gm again....
  • [00:26:33] <snowman> you can install ubuntu and use a keyboard and mouse with a beagleboard... I could call that personal computing
  • [00:26:44] <snowman> gm?
  • [00:26:50] <mru> fine, I meant intel pc this time
  • [00:27:11] <mru> you might as well dig out an old pentium 2
  • [00:27:50] <snowman> what about amd??? lol... jeeze I think the first computer I ever used was a pentium 2
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  • [00:28:10] <snowman> that was when I was likewise
  • [00:28:11] <djlewis> youngdter :P
  • [00:28:28] <djlewis> youngster, that is.
  • [00:28:36] <snowman> like* 6... but I'm 15 now :-)
  • [00:29:34] <djlewis> wasnt it 97 when P-II's were hot?
  • [00:31:23] <mru> yes, and PCs were slow
  • [00:31:23] * djlewis is going outside to look up into the night sky for a bit :)
  • [00:31:34] <djlewis> fast for pc's ;)
  • [00:32:45] <djlewis> Oh, this is all about someone thinking of using a BB for a desktop... Hmmmm
  • [00:33:01] <atmosx> later all
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  • [00:43:46] <snowman> hey how could you put like a
  • [00:44:55] <snowman> program on the beagleboard that like added one to a register and then stopped?
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  • [00:47:14] <ds2> arrggg another one
  • [00:48:12] <snowman> I know it us practically useless but what would be the boot process for that? store it in memory, boot up, the bootloader starts execution at a particular memory address( where the program would reside) and then it would just add one and stop?
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  • [01:03:59] <snowman> lol no one?
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  • [01:15:43] <ds2> @#%$@$@#%$@ most of the TI parts are not available :(
  • [01:16:53] <djlewis> stop cuss'n so loud, you migh offend someone... yeah..right ;)
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  • [01:18:47] <Barts_> djlewis: can i send a private message?
  • [01:24:05] <djlewis> uh, yep...
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  • [01:35:40] <snowman> anyone have a beagleboard they would want to sell?
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  • [01:59:36] <djlewis> snowman: $350...
  • [02:00:57] <ds2> $349.99
  • [02:00:58] <ds2> :P
  • [02:05:18] <djlewis> $349.98 :P :P
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  • [07:03:22] <XiXaQ> I've just come across this Beagle Board. It sounds really nice. Building embedded systems have been on my mind lately. If this works as well as sites I read claim, then this must be the coolest discovery I've done all year :)
  • [07:05:17] <XiXaQ> do I understand correctly, that you're supposed to be able to buy an extra card if you want bluetooth or wlan, for instance, and just snap it on top of the motherboard or another daughter card, and it just works?
  • [07:05:39] <ds2> sort of
  • [07:13:29] <XiXaQ> hehe, what does that mean?
  • [07:18:40] <dirk2> most people do bluetooth or wlan with USB. Depends if a daughter card is available for the add ons. See http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Expansion_boards for available daughter cards.
  • [07:22:29] <XiXaQ> oh, I see.
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  • [07:29:39] <ds2> it isn't exactly a snap in
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  • [09:58:47] <eFfeM> hm got an opkg (null) Bad address when trying to install python, when doing uninstall to try again I get pkg_run_script: ERROR: uninstalled package python-readline has a NULL tmp_unpack_dir
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  • [10:04:33] <XorA> eFfeM: Ive seen that error a few times, no idea what causes it
  • [10:04:46] <XorA> Crofton: hows the OEDEM hang over?
  • [10:04:57] <Crofton> good
  • [10:05:07] <Crofton> just managed to avoid it
  • [10:05:13] <XorA> hehe
  • [10:05:14] <Crofton> so far we have verified wifi
  • [10:05:27] <XorA> I noticed :-)
  • [10:05:30] <Crofton> found coffee
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  • [10:18:35] <eFfeM> Crofton|oedem: so the most important ingredients are there
  • [10:19:38] <eFfeM> XorA: what also worries me is that I get
  • [10:19:39] <eFfeM> ImportError: No module named re
  • [10:19:50] <eFfeM> when launching a python app
  • [10:20:06] <XorA> eFfeM: python never seems to work for me
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  • [10:43:13] <eFfeM> XorA: if I compile locally and installl from that the problem is gone, should I bump PR to force recompilation
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  • [11:01:27] <XorA> eFfeM: would be good to know the real reason for failure
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  • [11:13:21] <tapa> is there any chance wi-fi modul will be implemented on to board?
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  • [11:18:43] <mru> morning
  • [11:19:01] <eFfeM> XorA might take a look into it but not now, need to leave in 10 minutes or so
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  • [14:14:21] <Crofton|oedem> mru, you read Italian?
  • [14:14:44] <mru> I read many things
  • [14:14:51] <mru> most of them I don't understand
  • [14:15:02] <mru> italian is easy to guess
  • [14:15:21] <XorA> a lot of italian is english with waving your arms
  • [14:15:28] <mru> omapfbplay, mmap, and invalid argument says it all really
  • [14:15:33] <XorA> or I suppose a lot of english is italian without the arms
  • [14:15:35] <_av500__> the only word to read was "mmap" :)
  • [14:16:00] <mru> "argomenti errati"
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  • [14:16:08] <mru> what could it possibly mean
  • [14:16:18] <_av500_> hmmm
  • [14:16:48] <_av500_> some kind of pasta...
  • [14:17:08] <XorA> 404 pasta not found
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  • [14:56:16] <torusle_> hi
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  • [15:18:20] <_av500_> ho
  • [15:18:44] <prpplague> _av500_: greetings
  • [15:19:13] <_av500_> hi prpplague
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  • [15:26:16] <prpplague> _av500_: what's cookin today?
  • [15:30:39] <_av500_> pasta for lunch :)
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  • [15:30:54] <_av500_> and taming the kids...
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  • [15:33:52] <prpplague> _av500_: tasers, duct tape, and cough medicine work pretty well
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  • [15:38:51] <jean85> hi all..
  • [15:39:40] <jean85> can i use hdmi to hdmi cable for video? ma tv doesnt have dvi input,, it has hdmi input
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  • [15:41:50] <prpplague> jean85: should be able to, HDMI is reverse compatible to some extent with the DVI
  • [15:47:42] <_av500_> jean85: yes
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  • [15:58:25] <hrw|oedem> koen, XorA: can someone drop all kernel modules older then 32-rc4 from sheevaplug?
  • [16:02:33] <XorA> hrw|oedem: you mean in feeds
  • [16:04:32] <hrw|oedem> yes
  • [16:04:57] * XorA goes to look
  • [16:07:32] <XorA> hrw|oedem: whats the issue btw?
  • [16:08:21] <hrw|oedem> 'opkg update;opkg upgrade' gives you 32-rc4 kernel but task-boot/base will also fetch modules for .29, .30 etc because for .32-rc4 they are in kernel but modules exists in feeds
  • [16:08:47] <XorA> hrw|oedem: ahah, I thought so, thought I would just check
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  • [16:43:42] <hrw|oedem> XorA: thx
  • [16:45:26] <XorA> hrw|oedem: the files are gone, but it might take a while for the Packages file to regen
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  • [16:46:02] <hrw|oedem> sure
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  • [17:56:51] <koen> hrw|gone: I keep forgetting to write a script for cleaning up kernel modules :(
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  • [18:06:28] <eFfeM> hi all
  • [18:06:45] <mru> hi eFfeM
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  • [18:09:26] <eFfeM> aargh xmltv recipe installs part of its files in the perl work dir :-(
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  • [18:17:20] <eFfeM> anyone an idea how a package xmltv-0.5.56-r0 can install in tmp/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/perl-5.8.8-r29/image
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  • [18:19:10] <koen> eFfeM: don't you want http://code.google.com/p/tvgrabnlpy/ anyway?
  • [18:26:09] <eFfeM> koen, yes I do but mythtv requires tv_find_grabber or something like that to find the grabber and that is one of the files that ended up in the perl workdir and not in the xmltv package (so after install it is gone)
  • [18:28:12] * eFfeM has the feeling that he runs into problems with everything he needs :-( sql, twig, xmltv, also saw some apache issues, python lib that gives error installing, opkg install of a local file is rejected if there is the same version on the feed even if the full name is given, etc etc
  • [18:29:00] <eFfeM> sometimes i start wondering why i still do this an not use e.g. debian, the debian mythtv worked within a day or so
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  • [18:30:36] <koen> that opkg reject a file with the same md5sum is a feature, not a bug
  • [18:30:40] <koen> ehm
  • [18:30:46] <koen> same file with different md5sum
  • [18:30:53] <eFfeM> koen, i know
  • [18:31:09] <eFfeM> had to vent some steam :-)
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  • [18:32:00] <eFfeM> the xmltv recipe is very simple but depends on a lot of perl wizardry it inehrits cpan and eventually generates a makefile by perl Makefile.PL
  • [18:32:18] <eFfeM> and I am from the pre-perl era
  • [18:33:05] <koen> since it are only perlscripts, I would just have the recipe download the dep or rpm and unpack that to ${D}
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  • [18:35:30] <eFfeM> koen, hm, that does not really attack the root cause, and also ofc there is a lot of directory mangling around, eg tv_find_grabbers lives in tools supdir, tehn is copied to blib/script and eventually should end up in /usr/bin or so
  • [18:35:37] * eFfeM is now looking at cpan.class
  • [18:35:48] <eFfeM> cpan.bbclass
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  • [18:38:36] <eFfeM> koen , cpan.bbclass has a sed script which does:
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  • [18:38:38] <eFfeM> -e "s:\(INSTALLVENDORARCH = \).*:\1${D}${libdir}/perl5:" \
  • [18:42:41] <eFfeM> who is our perl wiz ?
  • [18:49:12] <eFfeM> koen, ofc a solution would be to hang the xmltv recipe under the perl dir, but guess that is not really the right way
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  • [19:26:04] <eFfeM> koen, twig changed again :-( should we move back to 3.32 ????
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  • [19:55:25] <azaghal> Hi. I just got my BeagleBoard, and am currently in pursuit of some additional components, main one probably being the LCD+Touchscreen combination. Anyone got some useful links on the topic?
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  • [20:11:19] <ThomasEgi> azaghal, mhm. i had a very old vga touchscreen with rs232 conenction. worked just fine.
  • [20:11:29] <ThomasEgi> dunno about otheres.
  • [20:12:36] <azaghal> Hm... Any recommendations on what model I should look out for?
  • [20:12:55] <azaghal> I pretty much have no idea what/where to search for, to be honest :)
  • [20:16:46] <mru> anything with a compatible interface
  • [20:17:59] <azaghal> Heheh, that's obvious, but still not much help :)
  • [20:20:41] <mru> the bb has a good selection of interfaces
  • [20:21:02] <mru> dvi or parallel lcd for display
  • [20:21:15] <mru> rs232, usb, spi, etc for touchscreen
  • [20:22:18] <azaghal> Well, maybe I should rephrase - which manufacturers might be good?
  • [20:22:35] <mru> just about any
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  • [20:22:58] <azaghal> Well, could you throw in some names?
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  • [20:30:37] <torusle_> now a nice, black coffe and then some coding.. :-)
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  • [20:38:22] <dreamer_> anyone here using rt patches on beagle?
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  • [21:23:05] <torusle> re
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  • [21:23:20] <torusle_> oops..
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  • [21:30:17] <torusle> my beagleboard is on the internets - for the first time...
  • [21:45:06] <koen> eFfeM: I already stated what we should do about twig (option D)
  • [21:49:34] <mru> d for delete?
  • [21:50:25] <eFfeM> koen, fine with me, but can't do that, the angstrom server is off limits for me
  • [21:50:31] <eFfeM> but feel free to do it
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  • [21:52:16] * koen notes he said 'e.g. the angstrom server'
  • [21:52:45] <eFfeM> i don't have access to any server to host files, sry
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  • [22:12:38] <eFfeM> koen, thanks for the twig fix
  • [22:13:28] <eFfeM> cool filename ;-)
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