• [00:00:09] <djlewis> good way to heat that nand off the top to replace it ;)
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  • [00:00:36] <GrizzlyAdams> heh
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  • [00:02:58] <GrizzlyAdams> thinking of getting a tranzorb and making a cable to glue to the new board that keeps it from getting anything over 5.1v
  • [00:03:20] <GrizzlyAdams> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transient_voltage_suppression_diode
  • [00:04:19] <djlewis> I use them on one of my designs to protect the rs-232.
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  • [00:06:38] <GrizzlyAdams> trying to figure out what to use, trisil or transil :/
  • [00:07:07] <GrizzlyAdams> looks like a transil
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  • [00:08:45] <djlewis> you could just be extra safe next time and tape the dc conn to the dc jack so the "correct" power supply stays with the board.
  • [00:08:50] <GrizzlyAdams> heh
  • [00:08:59] <GrizzlyAdams> well it wasn't the output end that was the problem
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  • [00:09:10] <GrizzlyAdams> i used the correct cable, i plugged it in wrong to the bench supply :(
  • [00:09:29] <djlewis> bad bench supply, it should have known ;)
  • [00:09:48] <GrizzlyAdams> i'm gonna be getting a 5v switching supply just for the beagle
  • [00:10:01] <djlewis> get a 5v brick from a USB hub and stick with it.
  • [00:10:19] <GrizzlyAdams> nah. those i've found too many times to be unregulated
  • [00:10:34] <djlewis> I always tell people to measure even if it says 5vDC
  • [00:10:40] <GrizzlyAdams> also they tend to explode when something bad happens
  • [00:10:49] <djlewis> fun :)
  • [00:11:00] <djlewis> I'm using one.
  • [00:11:23] <GrizzlyAdams> fudge, digikey is out of beagle boards again
  • [00:11:49] <djlewis> I'm not sure it is from a hub as it came out of a surplus box but it is 5.12vDC at 2.5A
  • [00:11:59] <ShadowJK> what's the status with usb on beagles from digikey?
  • [00:12:06] <djlewis> the other guys carry them now.
  • [00:12:39] <GrizzlyAdams> ShadowJK: i got a C3 from digikey, and its usb seemed ok, but my hub was making the ports drop out
  • [00:12:54] <GrizzlyAdams> mouser has 71 in stock
  • [00:13:18] <djlewis> the other guys
  • [00:13:31] <GrizzlyAdams> heh
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  • [01:31:51] <JTA> woot woot, beagle board is on freenode...this rocks...
  • [01:37:53] <Crofton> JTA, has been for ages :)
  • [01:39:31] <JTA> didn't know, lol...
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  • [01:39:44] <JTA> i was just checking in on the beagle board and notice there was an irc at freenode...
  • [01:39:45] * ds2 waits for a beagle board to run a Freenode node ;)
  • [01:39:51] <JTA> i'm on freenode for blender development...
  • [01:39:59] <JTA> lol @ ds2
  • [01:40:08] <ds2> cool, someone to pester about blender ;)
  • [01:40:14] <JTA> lol....
  • [01:40:27] <JTA> hey, ubuntu is up on the bb, so blender will follow, lol...
  • [01:41:00] <ds2> i been trying to understand how people can stand using blender as a 3D cad for design :D
  • [01:41:01] <JTA> anybody here know if they have a music synthesiser attached to the bb yet? like a music generator chip?
  • [01:41:13] <JTA> so i can have a hand held music composing and midi playback device?
  • [01:41:20] <ds2> nope... why do you want to attach a synth?
  • [01:41:33] <JTA> not via midi...
  • [01:41:38] <JTA> i want to have a sound chip...
  • [01:41:41] <ds2> oh you want it on a MIDI bus?
  • [01:41:46] <JTA> i used to be in embedded systems years ago...
  • [01:41:50] <JTA> nope...
  • [01:42:01] <ds2> why not just do it with samples?
  • [01:42:06] <JTA> a sound chip with registers attached...a programmable sound chip...
  • [01:42:25] <ds2> but why? fast process + DSP seems more then sufficient to do it
  • [01:42:28] <JTA> that could be, but it should have basic synthesis capabilities also..
  • [01:42:43] <JTA> btw, blender has a steep curve until you get over it, then it rocks....
  • [01:42:59] <JTA> i have obviously got over teh steep inital curve of blender...
  • [01:43:04] <ds2> other then the OSS aspects, isn't blender largely like Rhino/3DS?
  • [01:43:14] <JTA> actually it's not blender, it's teh documentation/tutorials. that are the biggest issue
  • [01:43:39] <JTA> dunno...i am stale on rhino..i know i played wiht it initially when it first hit the market....
  • [01:44:09] <JTA> it's more like amiga or lightwave where there are not a bunch of windows or mac like pop up dialog boxes...they are panels full of settings...
  • [01:44:17] <JTA> the old...amiga...what did they call it...
  • [01:44:24] <ds2> doesn't blender represent things with NURBS?
  • [01:44:27] <JTA> gadget interface? which lighwave 3d still kept...
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  • [01:44:52] <torus> hi
  • [01:45:00] <djlewis> lo
  • [01:45:17] <JTA> blender can do nurbs or polys
  • [01:45:30] <ds2> I see
  • [01:45:49] <JTA> i actually use poser adn am moving over to blender...
  • [01:45:58] <JTA> so i have a massive poser content library
  • [01:46:09] <ds2> what do you use it for? animation or design?
  • [01:46:22] <JTA> corporate graphics for live events
  • [01:46:36] <JTA> motion grahics in other words
  • [01:46:54] <ds2> gotcha...
  • [01:46:56] <JTA> okies, dinner time, i'm making some outrageous hamburgers for dinner....
  • [01:46:59] <JTA> bbl
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  • [04:35:33] <kblin> I've just copied over an iso file to an externel hdd, and it seems that everytime I run md5sum on it, the checksum comes up different
  • [04:35:59] <kblin> is there any way to check if the RAM is bad?
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  • [08:48:48] <rsv> i use a custom board. i enable low level debug and i dont see anything on uart. what could be wrong?
  • [08:50:12] <DJWillis> raster: are you talking about the numberT stuff (i.e. 40T) from the boot ROM?
  • [08:54:24] <raster> ???
  • [08:54:34] <raster> 40t? eh?
  • [08:55:33] <_koen_> or 40v for ES3.x
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  • [08:58:54] <koen> good morning all
  • [08:59:17] <XorA> hey koen
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  • [09:02:32] <rsv> i am using a new lcd on my board and i try to use tomi dss2. but i made the changes according using zoom2 as a example, but i get the error message: omapfb omapfb: no displays
  • [09:02:57] <DJWillis> raster: sorry, damm tab complete. ;-), I meant rsv
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  • [09:05:33] <raster> oooh aaah
  • [09:05:34] <raster> :)
  • [09:05:39] <raster> koen: morning :)
  • [09:05:42] <raster> XorA: moonin
  • [09:05:46] <rsv> i djwillis: i am referring to CONFIG_DEBUG_LL in kernel, i found the problem, i had also enabled CONFIG_DEBUG_ICEDCC
  • [09:06:14] <rsv> sorry for the noise
  • [09:09:42] <XorA> yo raster
  • [09:10:11] <koen> mru: judging from your ffmpeg commits you might have solved my tablegen problems :)
  • [09:10:19] <raster> XorA: how goes up north?
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  • [09:11:08] <XorA> raster: too bloody early :-D
  • [09:12:20] <raster> hahahah
  • [09:12:25] <raster> go back to bed then!
  • [09:12:43] <XorA> in work :-(
  • [09:12:50] <XorA> looking at dodgy code :-(
  • [09:12:59] <raster> work? screw work! work is for whimps! :)
  • [09:13:09] <raster> dodgey code is also for whimps
  • [09:13:10] <raster> :)
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  • [09:27:41] <koen> _roger_: good morning!
  • [09:28:10] <_roger_> koen - morning!!
  • [09:29:00] <_roger_> am3517 demo was well received! - loads of people keen to get started wth it!
  • [09:29:07] <_roger_> thanks for all the great work on that!
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  • [09:32:01] <koen> _roger_: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=966dfe4909dc9f80a9cb1bd99fbd7e95385b5672
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  • [10:11:24] <_roger_> koen - excellent commit - thanks man! - that'll help a lot. I'll re-base my .dev
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  • [10:16:41] <kblin> dammit
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  • [10:17:47] <kblin> it seems like funky things happen to my data if I push them out on the OTG port
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  • [10:26:18] <rsv> how do i enable debug options in dss2 which also lists what panel is getting registered and so on, i enabled debug option in makemenuconfig and made dss_debug=1, it doesnt seem to help
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  • [10:39:55] <_koen_> _roger_: note that DISTRO_PR got increased last night, so a clean rebuild is needed
  • [10:40:13] <hrw> koen: my ninja team goes to your home now
  • [10:40:32] <_koen_> :)
  • [10:41:46] * _koen_ ponders on adding support for his ereader to OE
  • [10:43:23] <hrw> ~hail git
  • [10:43:40] <hrw> I would like to have "git remove-changeset" command
  • [10:47:26] <janneg> what would be different to git revert?
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  • [10:48:47] <janneg> or git rebase -i CHANGESET^ and deleting the first line if rewriting history is allowed
  • [10:54:38] <hrw> right
  • [10:59:41] <_koen_> git revert is just fancy patch -R
  • [11:01:17] <XorA> I announced the PR change on #angstrom :-D
  • [11:01:32] <_koen_> XorA: cool
  • [11:02:31] <XorA> of course the number of angstrom people reading #angstrom tends to zero :-D
  • [11:05:44] <mru> better than the bsd situation at least, where the number of bsd users and the number of bsd forks are converging
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  • [12:26:48] <Crofton|work> the dog ate my beagleboard
  • [12:28:49] <_koen_> heh
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  • [12:41:50] <_av500_> Crofton|work: the logic analyzer, the dog... what is next?
  • [12:42:40] <Crofton|work> heh, that was in reference to Geralds remark about someone being honest about what happened to their board
  • [12:43:57] <raster> MUHAHAHAHAHAH
  • [12:44:06] <raster> http://tinyurl.com/yfzr44v
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  • [13:41:51] <eFfeM> Crofton|work: you do not have a beagle as a dog who thought the board was a cookie for him/her ?
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  • [13:42:28] <Crofton|work> an old joke
  • [13:42:35] <Crofton|work> "the dog ate my homework"
  • [13:43:57] <XorA> my Collie ate my Beagle :-D
  • [13:43:59] <eFfeM> <grin> i know
  • [13:44:27] <eFfeM> XorA it would be interesting if it was one of those tiny dogs
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  • [13:49:52] <prpplague> Crofton|work: i let the smoke out of my beagle board when i used a 1.21 jigawatt flux capacitor on it
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  • [13:56:57] <Crofton|work> http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/collectibles/9fc6/
  • [13:56:59] <Crofton|work> that one?
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  • [14:07:42] <cbrake> paulg_: we issolated the mono problem down to a x86 patch that is not compatible with ARM. Still working out the correct fix.
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  • [14:08:43] <paulg_> cbrake: good to know you are looking at a fix
  • [14:09:50] <cbrake> paulg_: this gets it to build for ARM, but breaks it for x86: http://pastebin.ca/1649267
  • [14:10:44] <paulg_> cbrake: great! - who cares about x86 anyway :o)
  • [14:11:06] <cbrake> paulg_: heh
  • [14:11:28] <cbrake> paulg_: there seems to be interest from several people in creating micro mono VM's using OE
  • [14:12:07] <cbrake> paulg_: ubuntu JEOS, and SUSE minimal distros are quite large compared to a minimal OE image
  • [14:13:44] <Crofton|work> I suppose that would be interesting .... :)
  • [14:13:55] <Crofton|work> mono-image.bb
  • [14:15:09] <prpplague> Crofton|work: yea that one
  • [14:15:43] <prpplague> Crofton|work: "Please Note: ThinkGeek is not responsible for any problems created in this, or any other, time stream. Nor are we responsible if you are pulled over for speeding and try to get out of it by claiming you had to get up to 88mph."
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  • [14:17:29] <prpplague> Crofton|work: my favorite destruction of a beagle was the guy that used a 100W wood buring tool to put on the 0.1" expansion header
  • [14:17:59] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [14:18:05] <Crofton|work> http://networkchallenge.darpa.mil/
  • [14:18:10] <Crofton|work> #beagle should enter :)
  • [14:19:15] <prpplague> hehe
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  • [14:26:31] <kblin> crap
  • [14:27:00] <kblin> so it's not my usb hub that's causing the data corruption
  • [14:27:53] <koen> kblin: MUSB?
  • [14:29:24] <kblin> yeah, can't get EHCI to work at all
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  • [14:29:54] <kblin> I can't get a correct md5sum of a big file via MUSB though
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  • [14:32:13] * koen does a nelson muntz impression
  • [14:32:14] <koen> ha-ha
  • [14:32:48] <lifeeth> :)
  • [14:33:37] <kblin> dunno, I'm seeing the USB issues I'm seeing on both the ubuntu as well as on the angstrom kernel
  • [14:34:31] <koen> kblin: my remark had nothing todo with your musb troubles
  • [14:34:49] <kblin> yeah, I know
  • [14:35:32] <kblin> oh well, this is really interesting
  • [14:35:42] <kblin> I thought I had errors writing to the media
  • [14:35:55] <kblin> but it seems like the problems are already there reading
  • [14:37:11] <kblin> oh well, this is way beyond my time/skills for debugging
  • [14:38:05] <prpplague> koen: i need to get a patch to you for the zippy2
  • [14:38:10] <prpplague> koen: monday maybe?
  • [14:38:45] <koen> prpplague: that'd be good
  • [14:41:30] <prpplague> koen: i haven't checked the OE stable builds in awhile, what kernel are they using?
  • [14:41:34] * prpplague goes to look
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  • [14:43:09] * Crofton|work just started a build
  • [14:43:12] <Beagle1> Hi
  • [14:43:21] <Crofton|work> if this goes, I suppose I'll try beagle-demo-image
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  • [14:45:09] <Beagle1> How can we pass to scheduled standby
  • [14:45:13] <Beagle1> ?
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  • [14:45:39] <Beagle1> I mean I want to pass to standby at 17 and wake up at 18
  • [14:45:52] <_koen_> prpplague: the same as .dev, I synced it 2 weeks ago
  • [14:45:56] <Beagle1> what is the command for this plz?
  • [14:46:26] <prpplague> _koen_: ahh 2.6.31 iirc
  • [14:47:02] <koen> prpplague: .29
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  • [14:47:18] <prpplague> koen: oh it's still using .29?
  • [14:47:21] <koen> florian: could you check mailman and exim/postfix on discovery?
  • [14:47:51] <koen> prpplague: yeah, I'd like to move to at least .31 in .dev, but so many things needs to get tested against it (sgx, dsp, etc)
  • [14:48:04] <prpplague> koen: ahh ok
  • [14:48:45] <_koen_> I'll try to free some time next week to look at it
  • [14:49:03] * _koen_ suspect he'll get told to do it by his boss in the near future anyway
  • [14:49:04] <eFfeM> _koen_: how did yesterdays exam go ?
  • [14:49:12] <_koen_> eFfeM: pretty good :)
  • [14:49:16] <eFfeM> great
  • [14:49:19] <Crofton|work> what was it on?
  • [14:49:20] <_koen_> I think
  • [14:49:23] <florian> koen: ok
  • [14:49:28] <_koen_> Crofton|work: damned lies
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  • [14:49:32] <eFfeM> _koen_: last hurdle ?
  • [14:49:34] <Crofton|work> ah
  • [14:49:37] <Crofton|work> Statistics
  • [14:49:42] <eFfeM> <grin>
  • [14:50:05] <_koen_> eFfeM: sadly not, I missed a buch of exams in the summer holiday due to hospital and the associated fall out
  • [14:50:17] <eFfeM> :-(
  • [14:50:25] <eFfeM> pity
  • [14:51:23] <prpplague> * _koen_ suspect he'll get told to do it by his boss in the near future anyway
  • [14:51:39] <eFfeM> ;-)
  • [14:51:42] <prpplague> _koen_: move to .31 or exom/postfix ?
  • [14:52:14] <prpplague> _koen_: wasn't clear on which item you were refering to
  • [14:52:30] <_koen_> prpplague: sync all omap3 platforms in OE to a single kernel version (sadly not signle tree)
  • [14:52:40] <prpplague> _koen_: ahh
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  • [14:53:20] <prpplague> _koen_: okie dokie, i'll generate the patch against the .29 oe stuff
  • [14:53:32] <_koen_> it sucks to have a problem with beagle on .29, TI official kernel being .29rc3 and TI kernel team working on .31rc7/HEAD
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  • [14:54:36] <prpplague> _koen_: indeed, i have one up on you though, i got a patch from micrel on !!! 2.6.22 !!!
  • [14:54:41] <_koen_> heh
  • [14:54:50] <kblin> 2.6.31 seems slightly less broken with respect to MUSB on revC, but only slightly
  • [14:55:19] <prpplague> _koen_: i was like "wth? am i in a time warp?"
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  • [14:57:30] <_koen_> prpplague: last year I got patch for 2.6.10, but I already bitched enough about that :)
  • [14:57:44] <prpplague> _koen_: hehe
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  • [14:58:09] <prpplague> off to the store, bbiab
  • [14:58:11] * _koen_ is nearly out of coffee
  • [14:58:15] <_koen_> prpplague: don't spill it
  • [14:58:33] <prpplague> _koen_: yea, well i think i have a serious "drinking problem"
  • [14:58:54] <prpplague> _koen_: i spilled a full cup on monday, right on top of a new dev board
  • [14:59:00] <eFfeM> kblin: there have been a lot of usb patches recently, not sure if all landed in .31, guess some landed in .32
  • [14:59:28] <kblin> eFfeM: yeah, I'll guess I'll have to rety then
  • [14:59:48] <_koen_> when I added the patches to .31 in OE that was the latest and greatest from Ajay
  • [14:59:56] <_koen_> I can ask him on monday for an updated set
  • [15:00:14] <kblin> all I can say is that currently ARM doesn't seem ready for prime-time yet.. at least not if you want to have a low-power file server
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  • [15:01:10] <kblin> revB is still unstable, revC eats my data, and the sheevaplug I tried blew up after a couple of days
  • [15:01:12] <prpplague> kblin: that is a very broad statement since ARM SoC's are in a ton of devices
  • [15:01:28] <kblin> prpplague: ok, so the ones I could get my hands on
  • [15:01:40] <cody> hm my beagleboard is stable
  • [15:01:50] <cody> runs 15 days now
  • [15:01:57] <cody> without reboot
  • [15:02:38] <cody> at least if i dont have heavy load on usb=)
  • [15:03:02] <kblin> cody: oh, the board itself is fine. just USB dies if I dare to connect an ethernet adaptor and a hdd and heaven forbid try to use it
  • [15:03:39] <cody> i have hdd, ethernet and dvb card on usb
  • [15:03:44] <cody> works good
  • [15:03:56] <kblin> revC? MUSB or EHCI?
  • [15:04:06] <cody> revC EHCI
  • [15:04:12] <kblin> ah, that's shoddy on my board
  • [15:04:22] <cody> but as i said heavy load crashes usb
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  • [15:04:40] <kblin> yeah, same here. If I actually try to use it, it breaks
  • [15:04:57] <kblin> same for MUSB on the revB
  • [15:05:18] <cody> if i transfer more than 3mb/s over ethernet it crashes after some time
  • [15:05:31] <kblin> and on the revC, it seems to work, but eats your data
  • [15:05:52] <cody> this usb problem really sucks as everything else is good
  • [15:07:05] <kblin> I'm currently running md5sum on a 600 meg iso file on my usb hdd, and so far out of 34 runs of md5sum, the correct md5sum came up 9 times
  • [15:07:27] <cody> hm that never happened to me
  • [15:07:27] <kblin> it seems to converge on the correct sum after a while
  • [15:07:39] <cody> either it works or it crashes, no corrupted data
  • [15:07:58] <kblin> there, it got the correct one twice in a row after 35 tries
  • [15:08:29] <XorA> remind me not to do OE builds on a beagle
  • [15:09:32] <Crofton|work> kblin, see _koen_ 's remark about usb patches ...
  • [15:11:33] <XorA> Crofton|work: I got impression EHCI was a hardware bug
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  • [15:13:43] <koen> the ehci hw bug was masking some sw bugs as well
  • [15:15:08] <kblin> yeah, but I had the impression that EHCI not working was no reason for an RMA
  • [15:15:21] <koen> no idea on that
  • [15:16:07] <koen> florian: I suspect my mails to angstrom and OE lists are still being processed by spamassassion
  • [15:16:32] <cody> well, is it possible to have a beagleboard with working usb?
  • [15:16:43] <cody> that would be cool
  • [15:17:27] <kblin> koen: that was the last statement from a TI persion I've seen on the beagleboard list
  • [15:17:28] <XorA> koen: is there an omap3 revision with working EHCI yet?
  • [15:17:33] <florian> koen: yes I guess so - but even mailam is still working.
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  • [15:18:38] <koen> XorA: AIUI it's largely due to the external PHY being overly sensitive coupled with a slightly more noisy PMIC, triggered by a some builds of omap3 silicon needing more power than others
  • [15:19:01] <XorA> koen: so bug fucking cap :-D
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  • [15:20:58] <Crofton> koen, that sounds complicated :)
  • [15:21:57] <koen> Crofton: it works or it doesn't :)
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  • [15:22:53] <prpplague> kblin: buy a zippy
  • [15:23:06] <prpplague> kblin: makes using ethernet much easier
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  • [15:24:33] <kblin> prpplague: url? google comes up with a couple of things that clearly look like the wrong zippy
  • [15:24:52] * prpplague wonders why so many beagle users haven't heard about the zippy
  • [15:25:20] <prpplague> kblin: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Zippy
  • [15:25:23] <kblin> also, now that I found that one
  • [15:25:30] <kblin> 10BaseT? come on...
  • [15:25:57] <prpplague> kblin: do you really expect to get 100baseT transfer rates from a usb dongle?
  • [15:26:14] <kblin> no, but I get more than 10 for sure
  • [15:26:24] <prpplague> kblin: not from my tests
  • [15:26:36] <prpplague> kblin: anyway, if you don't like the zippy, get a zippy2 next month
  • [15:26:50] <XorA> zippy 2 with usb???? :-D
  • [15:27:19] <prpplague> XorA: no, zippy2 is same as zippy, just with the micrel 100baseT part
  • [15:27:37] <prpplague> XorA: get about 14mbit/s rates on it
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  • [15:27:55] <prpplague> XorA: compared to the 7.5mbit/s on the original zippy
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  • [15:28:52] * prpplague has never understood why some people have this "the higher the number is better" attitude
  • [15:29:06] * koen blames canada
  • [15:29:12] * XorA wont he happy without 1000baseT
  • [15:29:19] <prpplague> XorA: hehe
  • [15:29:22] <koen> 1000baseZ
  • [15:29:24] <prpplague> koen: me too
  • [15:29:27] <koen> Z is better than T!
  • [15:29:35] <kblin> prpplague: ok, I haven't timed the usb ethernet adapters on a beagle, due to USB on it being so unstable
  • [15:30:02] <kblin> but on a real box, I'm pretty sure I've seen > 14Mb/s
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  • [15:30:27] <kblin> there's one valid reason for 1000baseT
  • [15:30:28] <prpplague> kblin: for a usb->ethernet ?
  • [15:30:42] <kblin> you don't need a crossover cable for direct connections
  • [15:31:03] <kblin> prpplague: yeah, it's been a while, though
  • [15:31:10] <kblin> I don't recall the exact setup
  • [15:31:18] <kblin> you make me curious to retry
  • [15:31:28] <koen> I'd like to have 40Mbit/s for 1080p streaming, but the beagle can't handle that anyway :)
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  • [15:31:41] <prpplague> kblin: best one i've ever tested with iperf had about 15mbit/s and it was extremely expensive chipset
  • [15:32:03] <prpplague> koen: which basically is my point anyway
  • [15:32:47] <kblin> prpplague: but to be honest, the more I think of it, I agree that I'd prefer a stable 10 mbit to what's out there now
  • [15:33:51] <prpplague> koen: mmmm, hazlenut flavored coffee
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  • [15:34:32] <prpplague> dirk2: greetings earthling
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  • [15:36:48] <orbarron> hello all
  • [15:36:58] <koen> hey hey mr barron
  • [15:37:22] <orbarron> hey koen... you get your board yet?
  • [15:37:36] <koen> nope
  • [15:37:41] <orbarron> what?
  • [15:37:58] <koen> I'm hoping the delay means it will be a zoom3 ;)
  • [15:38:12] <prpplague> koen: hehe
  • [15:38:39] <kblin> prpplague: anyway, thanks for the zippy pointer. any other differences between the zippy and the zippy2?
  • [15:38:42] <orbarron> nice request...
  • [15:39:13] <prpplague> kblin: nope, zippy = enc28j60 , zippy2 = ks8851
  • [15:40:19] <kblin> prpplague: ok. I'm currently broke anyay, might as well wait another month and try the faster ethernet chip :)
  • [15:40:50] <kblin> always this annoying issue when trying to play with cool hardware while being a student
  • [15:41:21] <prpplague> kblin: zippy2 will be more expensive than the zippy
  • [15:42:02] <koen> prpplague: the mailman was amused when I said I was having lunch with you guys when he tried to deliver the zippies :)
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  • [15:42:41] <kblin> prpplague: will they still be selling the zippy then? :)
  • [15:42:45] <prpplague> koen: ha!
  • [15:42:49] <prpplague> kblin: yes
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  • [15:43:56] <kblin> prpplague: ok, I can just postpone the decision then
  • [15:44:05] <prpplague> trainer board should be available mid dec and showdog end of feb
  • [15:44:39] <koen> sounds like I need to schedule some trips to dallas to save on shipping fees :)
  • [15:44:52] <koen> and to visit circuitco and the dollar factory
  • [15:45:56] <kblin> anyway, back to real work
  • [15:47:32] <prpplague> koen: you didn't make it over to circuictco?
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  • [15:48:50] <koen> no, I went shooting instead
  • [15:49:26] <prpplague> koen: oh?
  • [15:50:04] <koen> _chase_ took me to bullet trap
  • [15:50:09] <prpplague> koen: i think the engineer at circuitco isn't happy with my latest documentation
  • [15:50:15] <prpplague> koen: ahh dandy
  • [15:50:32] <orbarron> koen: shooting?
  • [15:50:39] <koen> orbarron: with guns
  • [15:50:50] <koen> it is texas after all :)
  • [15:50:53] <prpplague> indeed
  • [15:51:10] <prpplague> koen: had i known you wanted to go shooting, i'd have brought over my arsenal
  • [15:51:12] <orbarron> no.... IC it's a must while in TX
  • [15:51:16] <XorA> can I hunt wabbit with an RPG there?
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  • [15:51:31] <prpplague> XorA: no but you can with a 50 cal
  • [15:51:34] <orbarron> hehe:-D
  • [15:51:49] <Crofton|work> XorA, they can only have toy guns
  • [15:51:58] <Crofton|work> not tanks and other cool stuff
  • [15:52:12] <XorA> I found out muskets are legal in the uk under a shotgun license :-D
  • [15:52:30] <XorA> which covers everything upto cannon sized
  • [15:52:43] <koen> a friend of mine has a musket
  • [15:52:44] <Crofton|work> you are not planning another gunpowder plot
  • [15:53:00] * prpplague has one of these - http://www.barrettrifles.com/home/rifle_82.aspx
  • [15:53:14] <XorA> no, I was just going to pulish pictures of Al quada people in parliment :-D
  • [15:53:25] <XorA> Im sure the CIA can do the rest
  • [15:53:49] <orbarron> prplague: what do you need that for?
  • [15:53:54] <koen> rabbits
  • [15:54:10] <orbarron> some big rabbits
  • [15:54:43] <prpplague> hehe
  • [15:55:13] <prpplague> orbarron: just for fun
  • [15:55:29] <mru> Crofton|work: gunpowder plot... now there's an idea
  • [15:56:20] <mru> only a week to go though
  • [15:56:31] <Crofton|work> yeah, you would be hailed as heros today
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  • [15:57:27] * orbarron need more info
  • [15:57:35] <torus> good evening, gentlemen.
  • [15:57:43] <orbarron> hello torus
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  • [16:40:24] <Crofton> koen, having two email addresses does not mean you get to sign something off twice :)
  • [16:41:05] <koen> right
  • [16:41:09] <koen> I noticed that as well :)
  • [16:41:23] <koen> I'll fix that up when committing it (provided it gets thru review)
  • [16:41:28] <prpplague> jkridner: ping
  • [16:50:21] <mru> Crofton: what? are you saying my ~10-20 email addresses are worthless?
  • [16:51:55] <mcgeagh> hi, quick question....... whats the current status of flash player on beagleboard. (AFAIK its either gnash/swfdec or paying for calsoftlabs)
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  • [17:01:11] <mcgeagh> anyone?
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  • [17:03:26] <paulg_> cbrake: the patch works.. mono is alive.
  • [17:04:48] <mithun> anyone know how to enable tv out for gnnome??
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  • [17:07:43] <mithun> hi jayabharath
  • [17:08:04] <mithun> u know how to enable tv out for gnnome??
  • [17:08:50] <jayabharath> hi mithun
  • [17:09:39] <jayabharath> koen: Your board should ship to you mid Nov. Once we have 3630 SOM's will send you that too (i.e, morph Zoom2->Zoom3)
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  • [17:11:39] <hrw> 3630 is next 3430?
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  • [17:13:20] <jayabharath> hrw: Short answer yet - Check out .. http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12836&contentId=52606
  • [17:13:49] <jayabharath> hrw : I ment 'yes' (instead of 'yet')
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  • [17:15:51] <hrw> jayabharath: scheme show twl4030, table says twl5030 ;)
  • [17:15:55] <hrw> re eFfeM
  • [17:17:40] <jayabharath> hrw: Doc bug :)
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  • [17:22:04] <torus> does anyone knows which dsplink version is compatible with the packages used by the narcissus online image builder?
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  • [17:58:16] <JTA> anybody know if there is a music synthesizer chip that can be added to the beagle board?
  • [17:59:02] <torus> JTA, what do you have in mind? Something complex or just some simple blips and blerps?
  • [17:59:18] <prpplague> JTA: possibilities are pretty wide open
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  • [18:07:34] <torus> btw.. anytime I build an image with OE I get this error: "NOTE: preferred version git of u-boot not available (for item u-boot)" - Any idea what that means and how I can get rid of it?
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  • [18:09:55] <mithun> anyone knows how to enable tv out for gnome.??
  • [18:13:50] <JTA> prpplague: yes they are wide open, too wide open, lol...
  • [18:14:12] <JTA> i am thinking something to hook up to one of the linux distros so i have a small portable music composition tool...
  • [18:14:42] <JTA> i actually have an old radio shack synth on a chip...but it is quite dated and sounds like a toy organ...
  • [18:14:47] <prpplague> JTA: i would start out looking at makezine or hackaday to see what kind of stuff they've hacked into arduino's
  • [18:14:55] <mithun> prpplague: u know how to enable s-video out for gnome??
  • [18:14:58] <JTA> that's what i am doing righ tnow....
  • [18:15:13] <prpplague> mithun: not off hand, but i'm sure it is documented on the wiki pages
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  • [18:15:30] <JTA> i found the vmusic2...plays mp3s off of usb stick...flakey from what it sounds, but work...i actually want a synth...
  • [18:15:37] <prpplague> mithun: i don't do much userland stuff
  • [18:15:39] <JTA> thanks prpplague
  • [18:17:27] <mithun> can u get me de link...
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  • [18:21:12] <tik> good evening. amatuerish question, but what compiler should i use to write c code to run on the bb? is it a case of installing a compiler on my pc, writing the code, compiling, then putting the exec on the sd card and putting it in the bb?
  • [18:22:08] <JTA> prpplague: along the lines of diy websites are the two you mentioned the best for beagle board stuff? or can you recommend any others? Thanks :)
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  • [18:29:18] <prpplague> JTA: you aren't going to find much "hack" info on either of those sites with regards to the beagle, but anything you can hack up with the atmega/arduino you can hack onto the beagle
  • [18:30:23] <prpplague> tik: did you check the wiki pages?
  • [18:31:09] <prpplague> tik: http://www.elinux.org/ARMCompilers
  • [18:31:20] <prpplague> tik: best suggestion is to get an OE build done first
  • [18:32:02] <tik> i have been looking at opeen embedded for beagleboard stuff but it comfusing me. im doing the OE install thats taking ageees. but tbh im not sure what its going to accomplish
  • [18:33:11] <prpplague> tik: OE builds all the tools and things you need to cross-compile
  • [18:33:13] <torus> tik - oe will generate a image file that you can copy onto your sd-card.. You can choose from a couple of packages that end up in that image. And you can include the gcc-package too, so it's possible to directly compile stuff on the board.
  • [18:33:47] <torus> tik - otoh oe also builds a cross-compiler for you, so you can compile stuff on your pc and just copy the binary onto the beagle..
  • [18:34:13] <torus> tik - from my experience getting into oe is hard though.. I'm fighting with it for nearly three weeks now.
  • [18:34:50] <torus> (and all i want to do is to get a kernel with working usb, net and dsplink.. ARGHS..
  • [18:34:57] <tik> okay so what im installing now is making a image that i then have to put on the sd card. side by side with angstrom?
  • [18:35:15] <torus> tik. nope. that image *is* angstrom..
  • [18:36:18] <tik> but i already have angstrom working... i dont need to do this?
  • [18:36:28] <torus> tik - openembedded is (among other things) an angstrom image builder..
  • [18:38:13] <tik> right. so do i need to replace my current angstrom with this oe one?
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  • [18:38:53] <torus> tik - well - yes and no..
  • [18:39:20] <torus> tik.. tell me - what do you exactly want to do? With a bit of luck you can save yourself the entire OE showdown...
  • [18:40:03] <tik> i want to write a c program, compile it, then run it on the bb
  • [18:40:12] <torus> okay. that's a lot easier..
  • [18:40:47] <torus> tik, you're working with some kind of linux-environment, right?
  • [18:40:47] <tik> preferably to write and compile on my pc, then transfer the exec file to the bb on the sd card
  • [18:40:56] <tik> im using ubuntu now
  • [18:40:56] <torus> tik. yep.. that's easy.
  • [18:41:23] <torus> tik: install the CodeSourcery Cross-Compiler (check the beagleboard faq which version to download).
  • [18:41:46] <torus> tik: then all you have to do is to set a path to the compiler (will most likely be somewhere at /opt/CodeSourcery/...)
  • [18:42:05] <torus> tik: and afterwards you can call arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc hello_world.c
  • [18:42:37] <torus> that will compile a program just like gcc would.. copy that onto your beagleboad and it will run.
  • [18:43:16] <tik> and that will compile hello.c into a exec that bb will see and be able to run? excelent
  • [18:43:27] <torus> that's it..
  • [18:43:54] <torus> tik: the bb won't see it automatically.. You have to place it somewhere onto the bb by hand...
  • [18:44:19] <torus> I have a network connection over the usb-cable that powers the bb and use scp to copy the files into my homefolder.. works great.
  • [18:44:42] <JTA> prpplague: this is kind of what i am looking for but a bit more of a diy all in one...this is more for manufacturers http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Crystal+Semiconductor+Ramps+Volume+Production+Of+Single-Chip...-a019128635
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  • [18:45:17] <torus> tik: but be warned: the fun starts when you want to link with shared libraries that are installed on the bb but not on your host-pc...
  • [18:45:48] <JTA> prpplague: i may go usb connected with linux support for a synth...pio chip synth is my first choice though...
  • [18:46:07] <tik> torus: and the exec will be put onto the linux half of the sd card, with the rest of the anstrom stuff, so angstrom still runs like normal, but i can run my code
  • [18:46:26] <torus> JTA last time I've looked for synth-chips there have been a lot of midi capable chips for mobile phones out there..
  • [18:46:29] <JTA> prpplague: basically it is a midi sound module over a bus setup that i am looking for
  • [18:46:41] <tik> torus: heh i dont mind taking the sd card out and swithing between machines for now!
  • [18:46:44] <JTA> exactly torus, but not quite to the diy stage
  • [18:46:48] <torus> JTA: two wire interface - send midi data - get bleeps and blerps..
  • [18:47:11] <torus> JTA: hard to get these chips, eh?
  • [18:47:14] <JTA> well, i want it as a hand held music composition device...
  • [18:47:39] <JTA> nope, just too much noise..i have an older model but it sounds like a cheap $30 casio keyboard...
  • [18:47:45] <torus> JTA: Hm.. anything wrong with a software midi-device running on the arm-core?
  • [18:47:54] <JTA> the internet searches give back to much noise
  • [18:48:17] <JTA> chip assisted synth is sooooooooooooo much better and higher quality
  • [18:48:20] <torus> JTA: as far as I know ALSA can do that for you.
  • [18:48:41] <signal11> except if the chip sucks at assisting? (:
  • [18:49:11] <torus> JTA: well - you have a dsp-core in the bb... How about rolling your own virtual analog synth?
  • [18:49:52] <JTA> i was thinking about it...i used to do dsp programming years ago...and they do work quite well, but i don't want that much of a time investment...i know these are out here...it's just finding them, lol...
  • [18:50:27] <JTA> i guess the big rack mount synth industry is alive and well because of raves and DJs...so i am getting a lot of noise back on that...
  • [18:50:42] <torus> JTA: hm.. I don't know of any synth-chips besides these mobile-phone things..
  • [18:50:55] <JTA> they are out there, always have been....
  • [18:51:06] <torus> JTA: the better sounding synth are all custom asics, fpgas or just software these days.
  • [18:51:21] <JTA> the crystal one i just linked is good but not a diy kit, you have to add a lot of support circuitry
  • [18:51:32] <JTA> yup....@ torus
  • [18:51:49] <torus> JTA: hm. how about good old OPL3? Get an old Soundblaster16 from ebay and desolder the chip..
  • [18:51:52] <JTA> i don't need the best, just better than casio toy organ, lmao....
  • [18:52:30] <JTA> i actually have a korg ag-10 synth on a pc daughter board...i may try to hack that...it sounds freaking incredible...
  • [18:52:41] <JTA> it's burried in storage somewhere....
  • [18:52:48] <JTA> not a bad idea torus
  • [18:53:01] <JTA> still, lots to do to get it to work...a bit more than i want...
  • [18:53:01] <torus> JTA: how about samples? Have you tried soundtracker? www.soundtracker.org
  • [18:53:11] <JTA> i love soundtracker....mod files rock!
  • [18:53:26] <JTA> i may go soundtracker....but i wanted hardware first if i could...
  • [18:53:27] <torus> JTA: well...
  • [18:53:50] <torus> JTA: OpenEmbedded has a soundtracker receipt.. It ought to build on the beagleboard without problems.
  • [18:54:19] <JTA> hmmm, i'll look into it...it could at least get me started until i find a suitable hardware replacement.
  • [18:54:55] <torus> JTA: last idea: There have been wavetable expansion cards years back.. MT32 and so on..
  • [18:55:18] <torus> I know for sure that the expansion header just takes midi signals, power and outputs the audio somewhere.
  • [18:55:36] <JTA> exactly...that's what i have with the korg ag-10...it sounds incredible....i have a korg x5 and the ag-10 was the predecessor to that...the ai squared chip
  • [18:56:08] <JTA> torus: really? wow, i will look into that then...that would be awesome..i could mod it for my ag-10 daughter board...
  • [18:56:20] <torus> TJA: that could work....
  • [18:57:02] <JTA> http://www.axon-technologies.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2162
  • [18:57:11] <JTA> you are so freak'n on the mark...it does...
  • [18:57:37] <JTA> that would be hot and i could post the how to....piece of cake...damn...and i could use my korg ag-10...outstanding...
  • [18:57:50] <JTA> i didn't thing they were that standard.....
  • [18:59:24] <torus> JTA: I found something. For the Yamaha DB50XG there have been a project in the german C'T magazin.. Complete with circuit and everything. Unfortunately the article is in german, but it i a start: http://www.compuzik.de/Download/DB50XG_Exp.zip
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  • [19:00:40] <JTA> thanks for your help torus...this is plenty to get me started....
  • [19:01:18] <torus> JTA: another one: The connector is called WaveBlaster-connector and was standard years ago.. With a bit of luck your card is compatible. The pinout of the connector can be found on google.
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  • [19:11:59] <JTA> thanks T :)
  • [19:12:08] <JTA> my card is compatible...
  • [19:12:16] <JTA> so that will definitely be one way to go
  • [19:14:51] <mithun> anyone know how to switch from dvi to svideo???
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  • [19:16:40] <JTA> i might be wrong but i thought it auto detected on start up...
  • [19:16:52] <JTA> i don't have one yet but i will soon and have been following it...
  • [19:17:13] <JTA> iirc from the docs
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  • [19:34:12] <tik> torus: hello again, im having trouble installing the codesourcery...
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  • [19:38:09] <tik> anyone who has installed code sourcery could you give me a hand please?
  • [19:38:39] <prpplague> tik: most everyone here is going to be using OE
  • [19:41:43] * prpplague wonders why people don't check the wiki pages
  • [19:42:21] <dirk2> tik: What's the issue? Just extract the tarball somewhere into /usr/opt (?) and set path to bin directory
  • [19:44:40] <tik> i tryed the .bin file as the site recommends that one, but i couldnt get it to work, following the tutorial script. ill try the .tar version now, in 12mins. thanks :)
  • [19:45:42] <dirk2> tik: Yes, try the tarball. I remember some other users to complain about the installer
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  • [19:57:19] <thesing> koen: ping
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  • [20:10:41] <prpplague> djlewis_: greetings earthling
  • [20:13:33] <tik> dirk2: it works!! my program runs through the bb :D:D:D
  • [20:13:52] <tik> used the tarball in the end ;D
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  • [20:30:27] <djlewis_> prpplague: good day to you
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  • [20:36:35] <torus> tik, you're still there?
  • [20:38:50] <torus> you're still here even... (argh- secondary language issues)
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  • [20:53:49] <prpplague> any arduino users in here?
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  • [21:00:03] <torus> nope.
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  • [21:05:48] <prpplague> ho ho hum
  • [21:05:55] <prpplague> the channel has been really quiet lately
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  • [21:07:08] <prpplague> jkridner|work: greetings earthling
  • [21:08:21] <jkridner|work> greetings, spaceman!
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  • [21:14:28] <malte> hi there, anybody woh has tried to run linuxMCE on the beagleboard?
  • [21:14:50] <prpplague> jkridner|work: think anyone would be interested in a variation of this for the beagle? http://www.zachhoeken.com/danger-shield-v1-0
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  • [21:37:41] <djlewis_> prpplague: if you do, to make it more interesting and useful...
  • [21:38:02] <djlewis_> prpplague: att jumpers on the outputs and inputs for external devices.
  • [21:38:21] <djlewis_> like the LED's have a pwm sig to them from d5. d6, make it usable to the world.
  • [21:38:46] <djlewis_> att = all
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  • [21:39:04] <prpplague> djlewis_: gotcha covered already
  • [21:39:10] <djlewis_> thought so :)
  • [21:39:24] <djlewis_> seems like a learners board, schools...
  • [21:39:39] <prpplague> djlewis_: the danger board would actually plug into the trainer board
  • [21:39:59] <prpplague> djlewis_: trainer already has the proto area and all the i/o on the expansion header brought out and level sifted
  • [21:40:24] <jkridner|work> prpplague: got any Linux drivers for that board? Is it HID-class?
  • [21:40:28] <jkridner|work> looks pretty cool.
  • [21:41:12] <prpplague> jkridner|work: the board would actually interface to the arduino, and the arduino is interfaced to the beagle via the uart2 on the expansion header
  • [21:41:27] <prpplague> jkridner|work: so to answer your questions, yes, it would basically "just work"
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  • [21:42:47] <jkridner|work> oh, so the USB interface is from the Aruduino--I get it.
  • [21:44:17] <prpplague> jkridner|work: yea the usb interface is actually a usb->rs232 which people use to connect to their pc, since we are connecting directly to the beagle via uart2 that won't be in the picture
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  • [21:46:05] <prpplague> jkridner|work / djlewis_ here is an initial board profile for the trainer - http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer
  • [21:46:27] <prpplague> anyone who has questions comments feel free to add to the talk section on the wiki page
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  • [21:57:58] <prpplague> jkridner|work: essentially the trainer board + an additional breakout board will allow any of the arduino shield boards to work with the beagle
  • [22:02:50] * mru plays with android device and fails to see what the hype is about
  • [22:03:21] <mru> as I suspected, it's just a new name for watching crap java apps crash
  • [22:06:37] <djlewis_> hehee..
  • [22:07:08] <djlewis_> mru: its the built in screen ;)
  • [22:07:47] <mru> I can't even find a decent terminal emulator
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  • [22:08:20] <tegila> mru: putty
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  • [22:11:47] <eFfeM-away> prpplague: that danger board seems pretty interesting
  • [22:13:56] <mru> tegila: I don't see putty for android anywhere
  • [22:17:16] <katier> mru - try a google search for Term.apk, go grab busybox or bash or something, or just use adb on host
  • [22:17:41] <mru> adb?
  • [22:17:56] <mru> and on what host?
  • [22:18:09] <katier> android debug bridge is a fancy telnet
  • [22:19:17] <katier> this is assuming you have a usb-eth adapter
  • [22:21:08] <katier> run "netcfg" to grab the ip of your beagle, then on your host machine (after android sdk install) do ADBHOST=ipaddr adb - and you'll get a terminal. alternatively you can do an adb install of Term.apk which you can then use with the usb keyboard plugged into your beagle
  • [22:21:34] <mru> this is an archos tablet, not a beagle
  • [22:21:46] <mru> and I'm not mad enough to install anything called sdk on my pc
  • [22:22:04] <katier> ah ok, adb should work if you did the latest firmware update as well, and alternatively, you can grab a Term.apk and copy to your sd card
  • [22:22:39] <mru> I can download it with the browser easily enough
  • [22:22:42] <mru> that's not the hard part
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  • [22:23:22] <katier> archos should come with busybox and all so i must be confused on the hard part
  • [22:23:58] <mru> it doesn't come with a terminal emulator
  • [22:24:11] <mru> what good will busybox do me if I have nowhere to type?
  • [22:25:05] <katier> so is the problem that it didn't come with one and you need to download it?
  • [22:25:20] <mru> the problem is that I can't find a good one to download
  • [22:25:26] <mru> or even a usable one
  • [22:25:31] <mru> nevermind good for now
  • [22:25:57] <katier> i think i just grabbed the first Term.apk from google and it was ok....
  • [22:26:24] <katier> but goodluck with the archos, it's a little bit of a beast
  • [22:26:32] <prpplague> uh oh
  • [22:26:44] <prpplague> it's beer:30 on a friday
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  • [22:33:52] <ds2> mru is in Android land now?
  • [22:35:25] * djlewis_ wonders if mru will take Android out of its skin and make it more useful?
  • [22:36:30] <katier> mru - sorry that may have been a caveat
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  • [22:39:49] <vago_> has anyone worked with python on the beagleboard?
  • [22:40:54] <vago_> i need to work with images with gnuplot with python
  • [22:41:06] <vago_> the problem is that angstrom distribution doesn
  • [22:41:24] <vago_> doesn't have the package
  • [22:41:32] <vago_> and i don't know how to install it
  • [22:42:21] <vago_> anyone?
  • [22:42:24] <vago_> is anyone there?
  • [22:42:37] <ThomasEgi> there are about 136 people here
  • [22:42:42] <ThomasEgi> i worked with python on beagle before
  • [22:42:46] <ThomasEgi> but used ubuntu
  • [22:42:53] <ThomasEgi> most python packages are available there.
  • [22:43:14] <vago_> then probably i don't know the name of the package to download it
  • [22:43:25] <vago_> cause i have tried
  • [22:44:04] <djlewis_> you can 'opkg list' wildcard style
  • [22:48:55] <vago_> is there any way i can read the full list?
  • [22:48:59] <vago_> cause is very long
  • [22:49:19] <djlewis_> vago_: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?section=devel%2Fpython
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  • [22:50:34] <vago_> thanks masn
  • [22:50:35] <vago_> man
  • [22:50:54] <tstenvold> | more
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  • [22:52:15] <djlewis_> ooh, I never been called a masn before... I dunno what to think ;)
  • [22:52:33] <mru> less is better
  • [22:53:10] <tstenvold> yes it is but i find more on more computers by default :P
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  • [22:55:05] <vago_> sorry
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