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  • [00:39:05] <deepbeagle> any beagleboard experts online for a newbie question? thx
  • [00:39:56] <deepbeagle> I am looking for the options available for omapfbplay, command line options
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  • [00:50:36] <mru> they're obscure
  • [00:50:42] <mru> I can't quite remember what they are
  • [00:50:47] <mru> and I wrote the thing
  • [00:53:27] <deepbeagle> hi, thanks for the reply, where in the code might I find some info? I am trying to figure out how run it under x-win and place video screen
  • [01:00:04] <raster> deepbeagle: omap FB play. does that FB mean anything to you?
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  • [01:35:35] <mru> raster: it has xv output too
  • [01:37:15] <raster> mru: it does? i though it shortcutted to demo how great omap is by decoding direct into the yuv overlay?
  • [01:37:57] <deepbeagle> thank mru, seems as though u have some really cool experments going on with omapfbplay, X, network clients, performance improvment. would like to explore and document if it would help.
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  • [01:49:18] <rcludw> Has anyone tried to get rndis working on the ubuntu beagleboard distribution?
  • [01:56:06] <ds2> mru: any chance you got sound working with omapfbplay?
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  • [03:12:25] <djlewis> I got to see some pretty cool deep space stuff tonight.
  • [03:12:46] <djlewis> we got a really heavy dew though.
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  • [09:12:03] <noeska> i want to crosscompile an xwindows application so i need to get -lX11 working. What is the quick bitbake command to build these so i can copy them from linux to win32 thanks in advance ...
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  • [09:37:20] <koen> noeska: bitbake libx11
  • [09:37:59] <noeska> that should give me the .a files also
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  • [09:48:37] <hrw> morning
  • [09:49:03] <noeska> err once again i am lost again in the linux filesysten :-) I did the build now i search for the build results ...
  • [09:49:26] <hrw> koen: will n900 join your omap3 family?
  • [09:50:31] <koen> hrw: sort of
  • [09:51:01] <koen> hrw: I got a discount, but I don't think it's worth ???300, so I sold it to my dad
  • [09:51:16] <koen> which probably means I still need to do tech support for it :)
  • [09:52:15] <hrw> ;D
  • [09:52:43] <koen> looks like a nice device
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  • [09:52:56] * koen only handled pre-productions models
  • [09:52:57] <hrw> koen: Quim should send this mail at least two days earlier so I would play with n900 during elc-e..
  • [09:53:55] <hrw> instead I just took it into my hands, pressed 20 times and found few bugs in that time
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  • [09:54:39] <koen> my coworkers asked which GUI it used, gtk, qt or clutter
  • [09:54:43] <koen> "all of the above"
  • [09:55:11] * koen digs out his books on statistics and start cramming
  • [09:56:30] <eFfeM> noeska: find / | grep whatever (and grab a coffee while it is searching)
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  • [09:59:24] <av500> koen: http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELCEurope2009Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ELCE2008-Building_embedded_user_lands.vGend.Miljevic.pdf
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  • [10:04:04] <noeska> found the files copied them over and on to the next linking error: cannot find -lc
  • [10:05:44] <noeska> err what dev 'package' belongs to that / or i messed up my path settings ...
  • [10:11:01] <mru> morning
  • [10:11:33] <av500> gm
  • [10:12:16] <av500> mru: http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELCEurope2009Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ARM_EmbeddedLinux_Apps_Port.pdf
  • [10:12:30] <av500> has some ARM bla about their armcc and linux...
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  • [10:17:30] <mru> about thumb2: "This is a whole ISA, not just a mode of operation."
  • [10:17:32] <mru> bollox
  • [10:17:43] <mru> thumb2 is just an alternate encoding of the same instructions
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  • [10:39:41] <john85> hi all.......
  • [10:42:01] <mru> av500: oh, the rest of the presentation is rubbish too
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  • [11:34:24] <Silvrado> hi all, have u tried USB Wi-Fi dongle with BB?
  • [11:36:40] <Silvrado> hello, anybody there???
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  • [11:38:15] <noeska> hello, no i have not maybe someone else has, i believe there is an supported hardware list somewhere. BTW what is your brand of usb wifi device, chipset etc?
  • [11:38:29] <hrw> Silvrado: according to amount of mail about it to ML I will tell that no one. it was just ~1000 mails about it or more
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  • [11:42:29] <Silvrado> thanks for responding
  • [11:43:14] <Silvrado> i have not yet bought any yet. if someone has worked and succeeded, then i'l go ahead.
  • [11:44:04] <Silvrado> some say it's "not at all easy nor reliable"..
  • [11:44:39] <noeska> hmm linking in X11 and dependend libs with fpc leads to an _init and _fini not being found from the cprt0 in fpc. without linking in X11 and dependencies that part just worked. So somehow a X11 dependency goes hiding something?
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  • [11:47:45] <Silvrado> hi, has anybody tried with usb wifi dongle with BB?
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  • [11:51:18] <kblin> look up the supported hadware list.
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  • [11:52:27] <Silvrado> ok thanks kblin. where can i see that?
  • [11:57:17] <kblin> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardShoppingList would be one of them
  • [11:57:37] <kblin> ask google for more, that'd what I'd be doing
  • [11:59:57] <av500> mru: I knew you'd "like" it :-)
  • [12:03:08] <Silvrado> um ok thanks. i'm new over here.. so asked..
  • [12:04:24] <ldesnogu> mru: that's not the whole truth, Thumb2 has some instructions that ARM lacks
  • [12:04:30] <ldesnogu> and vice-versa :-)
  • [12:05:35] <mru> I can only think of sdiv/udiv
  • [12:05:42] <ldesnogu> add 12-bit
  • [12:05:45] <ldesnogu> and sub
  • [12:06:19] <ldesnogu> tbb, tbh
  • [12:06:25] <ldesnogu> and some others
  • [12:06:38] <ldesnogu> orn
  • [12:06:46] <ldesnogu> OK I stop here :)
  • [12:07:26] <mru> the 12-bit add/sub is just a different mapping onto the same underlying instruction
  • [12:07:26] <ldesnogu> sorry it's not
  • [12:07:31] <mru> sure looks like it would be
  • [12:07:40] <ldesnogu> the 12-bit imm is a real 12-bit not some 8-bit plus rotation
  • [12:08:03] <mru> I know that
  • [12:08:28] <mru> but once the constant is unpacked, it's the same thing
  • [12:08:28] <ldesnogu> this means this T2 instruction would require in some cases two ARM instructions
  • [12:08:36] <mru> so it's add immediate
  • [12:08:46] <ldesnogu> no, it's a mov + add imm
  • [12:08:49] <mru> only difference is the shape of the immediate operand
  • [12:09:33] <mru> are you saying it executes as two uops?
  • [12:09:40] <ldesnogu> I didn't say that
  • [12:09:53] <mru> just asking
  • [12:09:55] <ldesnogu> I said it requires specific handling that isn't only an encoding mapping
  • [12:10:00] <mru> it could be interpreted like that
  • [12:10:21] <ldesnogu> don't interpret what I say :-)
  • [12:10:34] <Silvrado> hello, has anyone worked with WiFi SD cards on BB?
  • [12:10:59] <mru> I'd be surprised if the output of the instruction decode stage was different
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  • [12:12:56] <ldesnogu> mru: even if the output isn't different, the decoding is different enough
  • [12:13:19] <ldesnogu> it all depends on whether you can rotate within a decode pipe stage or not
  • [12:14:54] <mru> does it really matter?
  • [12:15:09] <ldesnogu> from a u-arch design point of view definitely
  • [12:15:20] <mru> the alu pipe has a shifter for shifted register ops
  • [12:15:32] <mru> it wouldn't care where its input came from
  • [12:15:57] <mru> of course there are different ways it all could be built
  • [12:16:15] <ldesnogu> OK, imagine the constant comes out of decode undecoded
  • [12:16:30] <ldesnogu> for ARM, you need 8-bit + rotation control wires
  • [12:16:39] <ldesnogu> for Thumb, you also need 12-bit
  • [12:16:46] <ldesnogu> with no rotation in that case
  • [12:17:04] <mru> but you need 16 data wires for movw/movt anyway
  • [12:17:26] <ldesnogu> yes, but do you think movw/movt go through the ALU stages?
  • [12:17:35] <ldesnogu> they might, but they don't have to :)
  • [12:17:36] <mru> that's what the docs say
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  • [12:18:09] <mru> the A8 docs say everything goes through one of the alu pipes
  • [12:18:16] <ldesnogu> all I say is that this difference between ARM and Thumb can dictate some small things in the u-arch
  • [12:18:20] <mru> even load/store instrucitons use a slot there
  • [12:18:29] <mru> point taken
  • [12:18:40] <mru> but that's not enough to call T2 a different ISA
  • [12:19:20] <mru> tbb/tbh is weird though
  • [12:19:33] <ldesnogu> I'm sure the designers here would like your comment :-)
  • [12:19:54] <ldesnogu> though I understand what you mean of course
  • [12:20:10] <mru> tbb has got to be two uops
  • [12:20:34] <mru> or else every published doc on the A8 is a lie
  • [12:20:56] <ldesnogu> well given it's a ld + branch I agree
  • [12:21:03] * raster wonders what ever did happen to risc...
  • [12:21:11] <raster> i remember when it was all the rage
  • [12:21:16] <raster> and arm was called a "risc" processor
  • [12:21:25] <ldesnogu> pure RISC has died long ago :)
  • [12:21:33] <ldesnogu> it used to be called MIPS
  • [12:21:36] <ldesnogu> :P
  • [12:21:38] <raster> and the whole future of computing was going to be risc... and all the smarts were going to be in the compiler...
  • [12:21:51] <raster> ldesnogu: i know. i'm kind of being sarcastic. :)
  • [12:22:00] <mru> that experiment is knosn as ia64
  • [12:22:01] <mru> known
  • [12:22:03] <ldesnogu> raster: putting too much intelligence in the compiler was so dumb an idea
  • [12:22:07] <ldesnogu> look at itanium
  • [12:22:21] <raster> mru: ia64 is an experiment allright. a botched one.. but not sure it's risc :)
  • [12:22:30] <mru> cpu designers are generally smarter than gcc devs
  • [12:22:35] <raster> ldesnogu: as i said.. being sarcastic :)
  • [12:22:41] <ldesnogu> yes :)
  • [12:22:45] <mru> raster: it's a vliw
  • [12:22:52] <mru> doen badly
  • [12:22:55] <mru> done
  • [12:23:09] <raster> it's amazing. there's always some new fad. that will change computing forever.
  • [12:23:14] <ldesnogu> my understanding is that it's not as VLIW as c64x is
  • [12:23:20] <raster> and nerds argue over religiously for years
  • [12:23:23] <ldesnogu> can't it stall instructions?
  • [12:23:28] <raster> and yet... things dont really change deep down inside
  • [12:23:30] <raster> its all the same
  • [12:23:36] <ldesnogu> RISC, CISC, VLIW, all the same indeed
  • [12:23:55] <ldesnogu> the most impressive chips in this regard are x86 ones
  • [12:24:04] <raster> risc cpu's like arm grow to have such large inst sets where its actualyl hard to keep up with them all
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  • [12:24:17] <raster> cisc cpus's grow to split everything into micro-ops
  • [12:24:22] <raster> ie what rsic really should have been
  • [12:24:27] <raster> but do it on the fly
  • [12:24:35] <ldesnogu> and then merge them into larger u-ops ;)
  • [12:24:39] <Silvrado> hello, have u worked with WiFi SD cards on BB?
  • [12:25:05] <raster> yeah. but in the end. you just have a whole wad of complex ops to deal with. either way.
  • [12:25:21] <raster> i just wish simd had come along a whole lot sooner.
  • [12:25:21] <ldesnogu> yes, that's why x86 need u-code
  • [12:25:22] <mru> intel uop fusion only works in a few rare cases
  • [12:25:57] <mru> I suspect they only did the bare minimum that would let them put it in the marketing material
  • [12:26:27] <raster> i do say... things like vec4 y = vec4(a, b, c, d) + x + g.wzyx; is pretty awesome. :)
  • [12:26:28] <ldesnogu> my understanding is that they did based on their database of applications
  • [12:26:39] <ldesnogu> and that DB is huge
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  • [12:27:04] <mru> well, it still can't combine uops from non-sequential instructions
  • [12:27:49] <mru> an architecture like x86 really must have out of order execution
  • [12:28:07] <ldesnogu> everything must be out of order due to miss latency
  • [12:28:12] <ldesnogu> no matter what your ISA is
  • [12:28:28] <mru> being register-starved makes it worse
  • [12:28:47] <mru> because it's impossible to write the code efficiently
  • [12:28:52] <mru> without stalls
  • [12:28:54] <raster> why intel didnt just add another 128 or whatevr registers ... beats me
  • [12:28:57] <Crofton> even with bined?
  • [12:29:05] <mru> Crofton: yes
  • [12:29:06] <raster> they added mmx.. and sse... why not?
  • [12:29:17] <mru> Crofton: it's an architectural limitation
  • [12:29:21] <ldesnogu> raster: large register banks have a huge impact on critical paths
  • [12:29:40] <raster> ldesnogu: doesn't stop many archs from having them
  • [12:29:44] <raster> well ok
  • [12:29:49] <raster> 128 might be a bit insane
  • [12:29:55] <ldesnogu> x86 already has something like 80 regs
  • [12:29:56] <mru> I'm not sure what the ideal number or registers is
  • [12:29:58] <raster> but a good 32 more would have been good
  • [12:30:01] <ldesnogu> I mean for renaming
  • [12:30:12] <raster> ldesnogu: well mostly thansk to renaming
  • [12:30:12] <mru> 32 architectural registers is probably about right
  • [12:30:15] <raster> yeah
  • [12:30:23] <raster> its just the renaming becomes horrible
  • [12:30:24] <ldesnogu> mru: some studies from a few years ago seemed to say it was between 16 and 32 registers
  • [12:30:25] <mru> then double or triple that for renaming
  • [12:30:45] <mru> ldesnogu: sounds about right
  • [12:30:50] <mru> 16 is the bare minimum
  • [12:30:52] <ldesnogu> yes, I think too
  • [12:31:05] <mru> 32 feels much roomier
  • [12:31:10] <raster> indeed
  • [12:31:19] <raster> it saves ugly asm
  • [12:31:23] <mru> more than that, and you're wasting time saving/restoring them
  • [12:31:25] <ldesnogu> especially when the PC is in your std reg bank :)
  • [12:31:25] <raster> that keesp shuffling thigns in and out of rgs
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  • [12:33:07] <jkridner|work> good morning all!
  • [12:33:13] <mru> morning jkridner|work
  • [12:33:54] <ldesnogu> morning
  • [12:34:29] <jkridner|work> hi mru, ldesnogu. always great to see you in #beagle. I'm feeling pretty good this fine Monday morning. :)
  • [12:34:55] <jkridner|work> (looking at my task list, i have not justification for it)
  • [12:35:01] <ldesnogu> :-)
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  • [12:37:34] <mru> jkridner|work: wanna trade?
  • [12:37:51] <jkridner|work> hehe, naw, i get paid for my task list. :)
  • [12:38:11] <jkridner|work> unless you have a winning lottery ticket in that mix too.
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  • [12:38:45] <mru> I'm talking about the list of things they want me to do before I leave the job
  • [12:38:54] <jkridner|work> oh!
  • [12:39:15] <jkridner|work> that doesn't sound the most pleasant either.
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  • [12:39:35] <raster> jkridner|work: tasks are for the weak and feeble :) show them how strong you are! :)
  • [12:39:40] <raster> mru: leaving?
  • [12:39:49] <jkridner|work> hi Silvrado. I suspect many people here have WiFi going on their boards.
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  • [12:41:01] * jkridner|work wonders if i show all my strength if i could get a bonus and raise too!
  • [12:41:09] <Silvrado> um i hope so.. i'l try here
  • [12:41:30] * mru didn't get a raise this year
  • [12:41:40] <jkridner|work> Silvrado: i think you are going to have a easier time if you use Linux and a USB WiFi adapter.
  • [12:41:40] <mru> bosses blamed "the current economic situation"
  • [12:41:44] <mru> even though the company made a huge profit
  • [12:41:59] <mru> and several new porsches turned up in the car park
  • [12:42:01] <jkridner|work> mru: following raster's logic, perhaps you completed a few too many tasks?
  • [12:42:11] <raster> hehehe
  • [12:42:16] <av500> mru: with tires still intact?
  • [12:42:21] <raster> just kidding
  • [12:42:41] <raster> mru: aha. so leaving in disgust?
  • [12:42:49] <Silvrado> ok, i'l go ahead with the belkin one. i had read that wifi and BB is "NOT at all easy and not reliable".
  • [12:43:04] <Silvrado> so i thot i'l ask some ppl here.
  • [12:45:02] <mru> raster: very much so
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  • [12:46:30] <raster> mru: good on ya. did that last year. never felt better in handing in the resignation, and i'ts been all uphill since then.
  • [12:46:37] <raster> mru: got a plan?
  • [12:46:45] <mru> survive
  • [12:46:57] <raster> aaah ok. so no job lined up?
  • [12:47:07] <mru> nothing long-term
  • [12:47:16] <raster> as few contracts then?
  • [12:47:30] <mru> one signed
  • [12:47:34] <raster> cool
  • [12:47:35] <koen> raster: how do I make the gl engine show up in the settings panel?
  • [12:47:37] <mru> can probably get more
  • [12:47:42] <raster> u start once u finish up?
  • [12:47:51] <raster> koen: yo! i need to poke you. gles doesnt build on oe!
  • [12:48:01] <raster> .debug dir still there - QA bitches.
  • [12:48:02] <raster> :)
  • [12:48:13] <koen> raster: want my patch for that?
  • [12:48:31] <raster> koen: u havent pushed it up?
  • [12:49:09] <raster> as for gl engine in e's settings panel - u cant. gl is just not possible with e. 1. need shape support. 2 u'd need to have no backbuffers. be able to render and forget.
  • [12:49:12] <raster> 3. multi-window would need to work
  • [12:50:06] <koen> raster: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/evas-gles.diff
  • [12:50:46] <koen> raster: I'm not too happy with that patch, which is why it isn't in yet
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  • [12:52:34] <raster> aaah thats why
  • [12:52:58] <raster> oh wait
  • [12:53:06] <raster> no - thats just enabling gl in evas
  • [12:53:19] <koen> that builds and packages it for me :)
  • [12:53:19] <raster> u have a patch for fixing the gles build for sgx?
  • [12:53:32] * koen looks
  • [12:53:43] <eFfeM> koen: i had expected to see openrd client on the angstrom feed after adding it to sort.sh; am I just impatient ?
  • [12:54:34] <av500> eFfeM: http://www.reichelt.de/?ACTION=3;ARTICLE=89735;PROVID=2402
  • [12:55:26] <eFfeM> av500: thanks, looking at it
  • [12:55:27] <raster> ERROR: QA Issue with omap3-sgx-modules: non debug package contains .debug directory: omap3-sgx-modules path /work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/omap3-sgx-modules-1.3.13.1607-r46/install/omap3-sgx-modules/lib/modules/2.6.29-omap1/kernel/drivers/gpu/pvr/.debug/pvrsrvkm.ko
  • [12:55:27] <raster> ERROR: QA Issue with omap3-sgx-modules: non debug package contains .debug directory: omap3-sgx-modules path /work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/omap3-sgx-modules-1.3.13.1607-r46/install/omap3-sgx-modules/lib/modules/2.6.29-omap1/kernel/drivers/gpu/pvr/.debug/omaplfb.ko
  • [12:55:29] <raster> that problem
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  • [12:57:46] <koen> raster: clean them and apply http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=59daeb152286261e9fd6c249fb1aff68d97424aa
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  • [13:03:44] <raster> koen: u dont see the issue? or u already fixed it locally?
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  • [13:04:36] <jkridner|work> Silvrado: I hope that the tools situation has gotten better so that WiFi is easier, such as the tool that koen put in OE from moblin, but I haven't tried that.
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  • [13:06:07] <jkridner|work> Silvrado: as far as reliability, there have been some issues with USB port sensitivity to power supply noise and a lack of recovery features in the driver. there are patches floating around to perform the recovery and also to adjust the power supply to improve the noise situation, but i'm not aware if those have landed upstream as to ensure that everyone gets them.
  • [13:06:46] <Silvrado> okay..
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  • [13:08:36] <raster> koen: hmm that patch for evas. hmmm well the way evas guilds.. you can build in 1 go and just split out the evas gl enigne package
  • [13:08:45] <raster> (as it is its own engine and module)
  • [13:09:31] <raster> s3c6410 not 6410 for gles variety for the 6410. sgx is right there
  • [13:09:44] <raster> no 6410 gles libs exist in the wild as best i know
  • [13:09:50] <raster> so its an academic issue
  • [13:10:12] <raster> now why you do a separate .bb... i can see.. but not sure if there's a better way
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  • [13:12:16] <raster> koen: one problem. ecore-evas needs to be built wither with or without gl support. no module there. u'll need that for higher level stuff (ie anything other than expedite) to use gl
  • [13:12:19] <raster> as they all go thru ecore-evas
  • [13:12:35] <raster> mind u - this doesnt5 give eocr-eveas a libGL(es) dependancy
  • [13:12:42] <raster> it simply builds it to support the GL engine in evas
  • [13:12:52] <raster> if that module is not present - then the canvas create simple fails
  • [13:13:05] <raster> the build simply requires the gl engine header to be present
  • [13:13:06] <Silvrado> jkridner: i'm using 4 motors in close proximity of the BB. they might introduce a lot of noise in the power supply.
  • [13:13:15] <raster> not sure what the best plan is there
  • [13:13:17] <Silvrado> what wud u have done?
  • [13:13:38] <raster> (similar to expedite - if it finds the header is now knows the api with which to talk to the gl engine)
  • [13:14:59] <jkridner|work> Silvrado: if high reliability is a major concern, i don't know if I'd use wi-fi due to lots of other people potentially being on the channel. i think i'd want to be on my own channel.
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  • [13:17:08] <Silvrado> hmm.. however i'l be operating in open areas.
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  • [13:20:08] <koen> raster: yeah, I need to think about it some more
  • [13:20:16] <raster> koen: cool. just an fyi
  • [13:20:37] <raster> its kind of designed to "build efl with every features that can be in a module" so everything is there
  • [13:20:47] <raster> and then just package up everything separately and only install the bins u need
  • [13:20:57] <raster> problem is compile-time it needs a lot of deps then
  • [13:21:11] <raster> so u really need 1 .bb but with several falvors based on compile-time dep availability
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  • [13:30:28] <koen> raster: I guess I'll have an overlay or branch that adds the gles dep to evas, since I don't want to inflict the pain to get SGX libs to every OE users
  • [13:30:32] <koen> -s somewhere
  • [13:31:19] <XorA|gone> hehe
  • [13:31:47] <XorA|gone> isnt there a dummy gles yet?
  • [13:32:16] <raster> koen: makes sense
  • [13:32:37] <raster> tho if u --enable gl(es) for evas and it doesnt find the headers/libs
  • [13:32:41] <raster> it will justgo and disable it
  • [13:32:42] <raster> not error
  • [13:33:43] <jkridner|work> Silvrado: Have you looked at what the pixhawk guys use? perhaps since they are at least partially autonomous it doesn't matter as much for them.
  • [13:33:55] <koen> raster: that might be an option, although a fragile one
  • [13:34:21] <koen> XorA|gone: you're not here, be quiet ;)
  • [13:34:37] <Silvrado> eth zurich pixhawk? i'l see now
  • [13:35:10] <raster> yeah
  • [13:35:13] <raster> just suggesting
  • [13:35:30] <raster> myabe an evas-gles like u did that produces the normal evas packages etc.
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  • [13:35:47] <raster> but some way to select it in an image/package build explicitly
  • [13:35:55] <raster> does bb has such a feature?
  • [13:36:01] <XorA|gone> koen: im not here you cant make me :D
  • [13:36:11] <koen> raster: I'm unmotivated to do a proper solution while I'm supposed to be studying :)
  • [13:36:14] <koen> XorA|gone: :p
  • [13:36:20] <raster> eg the .bb for evas-gles.bb has some "PROVIDES="evas" in it
  • [13:36:37] <raster> that indicates when selected as tyhe package name to build - that is provides evas packages - thus can be a dependancy etc.
  • [13:36:44] <raster> koen: hahahaha
  • [13:37:21] <koen> raster: my plans is to have it to generate 'evas' packages, not 'evas-gles' package
  • [13:37:32] <koen> but that would require changing some python magic
  • [13:37:56] <raster> yes
  • [13:38:02] <raster> that was the idea
  • [13:38:28] <Crofton|work> koen, finish school damn it!
  • [13:39:33] <av500> Crofton|work: isnt it the dropouts that make fame and millions?
  • [13:40:08] <Crofton|work> he should be close enough to finish :)
  • [13:42:13] <DJWillis> koen: looks like one of the patches for omap3-sgx-modules_1.3.13.1607 is a bad one (well bad patch), http://pastebin.com/m706da9d8
  • [13:43:46] <koen> DJWillis: could you mail me that patch, it doesn't apply?
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  • [13:44:04] <DJWillis> koen: devel ok?
  • [13:44:20] <koen> DJWillis: koen@dominion.thruhere.net
  • [13:44:45] <av500> Crofton|work: well, not at the current conf call rate :-)
  • [13:45:47] <prpplague> greetings earthlings
  • [13:45:54] <koen> hey prpplague
  • [13:46:03] <prpplague> what's cookin today folks?
  • [13:46:07] <koen> prpplague: I soldered on some expansion headers yesterday :)
  • [13:46:25] <prpplague> koen: hehe with a 100W iron?
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  • [13:46:42] <mru> prpplague: we need more flames, or you'll have to eat salad
  • [13:46:43] <koen> prpplague: no, 12W :)
  • [13:47:00] <prpplague> hehe
  • [13:47:04] <mru> at least it wasn't 12V
  • [13:47:09] <mru> we know what that does...
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  • [13:48:30] <Silvrado> jkridner: i looked up pixhawk.
  • [13:48:33] <mru> koen: speaking of stuff, what happened to beaglecube?
  • [13:48:47] <Silvrado> they r using gumstix overo fire.
  • [13:49:12] <Silvrado> its got wi2wi's W2CBW003
  • [13:49:33] <Silvrado> its got wifi as well as bluetooth
  • [13:49:42] <prpplague> good chip, but wi2wi is hard as hell to work with
  • [13:49:53] <koen> mru: still waiting on bill from specialcomp to send stuff...
  • [13:49:54] <Silvrado> seems usb wifi is easier on BB
  • [13:50:42] <Silvrado> i wud have wished for few analog pins and wifi on BB.
  • [13:51:03] <Silvrado> it wud be a great package then..
  • [13:51:13] <DJWillis> Silvrado: I know of a few people running SDIO WiFi modules on the BB (not cards rather modules hooked up to the lines on the EXT header).
  • [13:52:23] <prpplague> yea it can be done using the MMC2 interface
  • [13:53:08] <djlewis> Silvrado: gm, if you dont need blazing speed for wireless XBee is good on a serial port.
  • [13:53:14] <djlewis> And has analog and digital on it
  • [13:53:25] <DJWillis> prpplague: yep, I know a few people who have done it with WL1251 modules on MMC2.
  • [13:54:11] <prpplague> djlewis: i'm not familiar with that module, got a url handy?
  • [13:54:19] <djlewis> DIGI
  • [13:54:48] <djlewis> XBee can use usb if you like with a convertor IC
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  • [13:55:00] <prpplague> djlewis: ahh
  • [13:55:47] <djlewis> prpplague: havent had my coffee qouta just yet, I spell it wrong?
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  • [13:56:09] <prpplague> koen: i think i have a drinking problem, every cup of coffee i've had lately i've managed to spill
  • [13:56:36] <Silvrado> djlewis: gm 2 u. its ge 2 me..
  • [13:56:46] <mru> prpplague: have you considered switching to beer?
  • [13:56:58] <SoulBlade> alternate between beer and coffee
  • [13:57:04] <djlewis> yep, my gm is usually later than everyone elses.
  • [13:57:16] <mru> or make irish coffee
  • [13:57:35] <prpplague> djlewis: sorry auto nick complete failed me, that comment about the module was for DJWillis
  • [13:57:42] <prpplague> mru: indeed
  • [13:57:47] <Silvrado> no i need some decent datarate of abt 5-10 Mbps..
  • [13:58:07] <koen> prpplague: I hope you have devised a good cleanup strategy )
  • [13:58:27] <av500> Silvrado: then use wifi on MMC
  • [13:59:01] <DJWillis> prpplague: there are several people making them, i'll have to check my notes, we use a Jorjin Ti WL1251 module on the Pandora and I know they sell that on a test board with fly outs to connect to something like the Beagle.
  • [13:59:39] <prpplague> DJWillis: i have stock of the wi2wi bga packages, but i was just curious about the wl1251 since i hadn't run across it
  • [13:59:52] <djlewis> Silvrado: I have been using only WIFI on my BB since April
  • [14:00:19] <Silvrado> wow dj! wats ur setup?
  • [14:00:48] <djlewis> unfortunately is is a cicuit pulled from a hp desktop that had builtin, so it is a no name.
  • [14:00:53] <djlewis> circuit
  • [14:01:30] <DJWillis> prpplague: it's a Ti chip on a 3rd party module and only has open drivers that don't make your eyes bleed (*cough* wilink 4 is pain *cough*) thanks to Nokia ;-). Other than that it's a great little chip.
  • [14:01:53] * av500 cringes on the mention of wilink
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  • [14:02:18] <DJWillis> av500: WiLink4 has taken near on a year of my life and I want those braincells back :-o
  • [14:02:18] <Silvrado> hmm.. okay dj..
  • [14:02:20] <djlewis> Silvrado: I have a 4 year old Linksys external wusb54g that it is happy with too.
  • [14:02:27] <koen> DJWillis: thanks
  • [14:02:41] <koen> DJWillis: http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/1119/ and http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/1122/ have linewrapping problems
  • [14:02:44] <av500> DJWillis: well, that sounds more like it...
  • [14:03:01] <prpplague> DJWillis: ahh dandy, i'll have a look in more detail
  • [14:03:19] <DJWillis> koen: as usual no probs.
  • [14:03:20] <Silvrado> oh i see..
  • [14:03:21] <prpplague> DJWillis: the wi2wi chips are nice, but dealing with wi2wi is a real pain
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  • [14:03:34] <koen> DJWillis: tried git send-email?
  • [14:03:58] <koen> DJWillis: if your branch is public, I could just add it as a remote and cherry-pick
  • [14:03:58] <DJWillis> koen: oh GRRR!, I think i'll go and fix GIT (and the user of GIT) or maybe jump infront of a bus ;-)
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  • [14:04:33] <Silvrado> as suggested in BB shoping list, i'l go with belkin i guess..
  • [14:04:33] <DJWillis> koen: true, I keep making a mess of git send-email so I stopped using it for fear of spamming lists.
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  • [14:06:58] <djlewis> Silvrado: comes up as: wlan0 (rt73usb)
  • [14:07:16] <koen> DJWillis: have a look at recipes/angstrom/angstrom-version*, should save you some post-process commands :)
  • [14:07:58] <djlewis> Silvrado: if you have any usb wifi lying around, give them a try.
  • [14:08:15] <Silvrado> hmm.. okay. when i'l get my hands on BB i'l give em a shot..
  • [14:08:28] <Silvrado> no yet 2 buy usb wifi dongle..
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  • [14:12:44] <SoulBlade> hey guys.. got the .09 SGX Graphics built through OE and installed through opkg. my screen display is set to 16 bpp, but i still get EGL_NOT_INITIALIZED when running gles1Test1 - pvrsrvkm and omaplfb are in through lsmod. im running X, so i wonder if that's the problem?
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  • [14:24:54] <prpplague> somebody has a case of the "Mondays"
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  • [14:26:00] <djlewis> I'll gladly trade you a case of 'Mondays' for a few 'Fridays'
  • [14:26:25] <prpplague> hehe
  • [14:26:27] <mru> I'll trade mine in for a case of beer
  • [14:27:11] <prpplague> mru: how about some mass brewed yellow fizzy beer?
  • [14:27:31] <SoulBlade> weird my display boot args are omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60, but fbset geometry line says geometry 640 480 640 480 32 - are the sgx tests/gle tests using the stuff in fb?
  • [14:27:41] <mru> prpplague: only the real thing for me, please
  • [14:27:50] <prpplague> mru: hehe
  • [14:29:45] <koen> SoulBlade: fbset -depth 32 -rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,8/24
  • [14:30:08] <koen> SoulBlade: put that at the top of /etc/init.d/pvr-init if you're using 24 or 32bpp
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  • [14:30:28] <SoulBlade> i dont mind using 16 bit
  • [14:30:41] <SoulBlade> i just want to see this thing work so i can then write something in OpenGL to play with
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  • [14:31:17] <SoulBlade> should there be a disconnect like that where fbset says its 640x480 but my omapfb mode is 1280x720 @ 16?
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  • [14:33:02] <koen> SoulBlade: no, there shouldn't be a disconnect inspect dmesg for clues
  • [14:33:35] <SoulBlade> and is it ok for this to be x11 image or will i need console?
  • [14:34:11] <Silvrado> ok thanks all... djlewis, DJWillis..
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  • [14:35:34] <sakoman> NishanthMenon: ing
  • [14:35:38] <sakoman> ping :-)
  • [14:35:44] <NishanthMenon> sakoman, pon
  • [14:35:48] <NishanthMenon> pong :D
  • [14:35:55] <NishanthMenon> sorry.. that was NOT intentional
  • [14:36:02] <sakoman> heh
  • [14:36:26] <av500> beer?
  • [14:36:31] <sakoman> I've been having some u-boot issues that I think I've tracked down to your SDRC init patch
  • [14:36:34] <NishanthMenon> early morning calls
  • [14:36:51] <NishanthMenon> sakoman, i fixed the timing for infenion
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  • [14:37:06] <sakoman> Symptom is either - hang after decompressing kernl
  • [14:37:11] <NishanthMenon> sakoman, if your ddr is different, that needs fixing
  • [14:37:14] <sakoman> or many slab errors
  • [14:37:20] <NishanthMenon> oh oh
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  • [14:37:25] <NishanthMenon> overo/beagle?
  • [14:37:28] <sakoman> yes
  • [14:37:43] <NishanthMenon> i think we need to have multi ddr definitions
  • [14:37:49] <NishanthMenon> or avoid touching ddr from u-boot
  • [14:37:49] <sakoman> I think both use the same micron memory
  • [14:38:03] <NishanthMenon> ddr in sdp is different
  • [14:38:04] <sakoman> the old values worked fine :-)
  • [14:38:10] <NishanthMenon> old values were wrong
  • [14:38:11] <NishanthMenon> :D
  • [14:38:17] <NishanthMenon> or hacked up by someone to make work
  • [14:38:30] <NishanthMenon> the old values were supposed to be for infenion
  • [14:38:32] <sakoman> working is important!
  • [14:38:41] <NishanthMenon> there is a simple way to make it work
  • [14:38:46] <NishanthMenon> #ifdef INFENION
  • [14:38:52] <NishanthMenon> use infenion timeing
  • [14:38:53] <sakoman> I suspect someone made them work with micron and didn't change the name
  • [14:38:55] <NishanthMenon> #else
  • [14:39:13] <NishanthMenon> well.. the entire code comments was so specific for infenion
  • [14:39:30] <NishanthMenon> IMHO, in x-loader driven boot, it should not hit ddr registers
  • [14:39:41] <sakoman> for now I am going to revert that commit so I can get back in business
  • [14:40:05] <sakoman> (on my own tree that is)
  • [14:40:05] <NishanthMenon> sakoman, as long as u send out a note accross to u-boot ml and send a patch :D.. I am ok ;)
  • [14:40:28] <NishanthMenon> ok.. one more to add to TODO list
  • [14:40:33] <NishanthMenon> :(
  • [14:40:49] <sakoman> I'll send a note today after I verify that reverting fixes the issue on Overo/beagle
  • [14:40:54] <NishanthMenon> okie
  • [14:41:00] <sakoman> But no time for a patch this week
  • [14:41:05] <NishanthMenon> if i get time later today, will do some patch myself
  • [14:41:23] * koen knows where NishanthMenon cubicle lives
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  • [14:41:30] <NishanthMenon> :D
  • [14:44:17] <prpplague> koen: yea well i know where the north lobby is!
  • [14:44:47] <NishanthMenon> oh oh.. i am guessing i am in someone's list to beat up ;)
  • [14:45:09] <koen> prpplague: NishanthMenon is pretty close to that
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  • [14:45:31] <NishanthMenon> privacy people...
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  • [14:47:29] <prpplague> dirk2: hey bud, you get your zippy?
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  • [15:10:44] <djlewis> hehee, speaking of problems with cpu resources and webcam use on BB, I up'ed the colour saturation on my windoze weather cam (s-video cam uses ati tuner/video bd) and on a 3G proc cpu usage went up from 17% to 50%.
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  • [15:51:15] <ukginger> Can I run RISC OS 5 ?
  • [15:51:54] <mru> I suppose it runs on something...
  • [15:52:22] <mru> I guess you're looking to run it on beagle
  • [15:55:09] <ukginger> Yes I am looking at the Beagleboard, but am willing to consider alternatives
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  • [15:55:47] <mru> so you want to run riscos and now you're looking for suitable hardware?
  • [15:56:27] <ukginger> Yes <mru>, that is exactly what I wish to do
  • [15:56:59] <mru> google didn't tell you anything?
  • [15:57:25] <mru> any particular reason you want to run riscos?
  • [15:58:30] <av500> mru: "..Teletext support.."
  • [15:59:21] <ukginger> I used to own and program an Archimedies, and I would like to go back to 'the good old days'
  • [15:59:28] <ukginger> :-)
  • [15:59:48] <mru> why not stay with the times and run linux?
  • [16:00:04] <muriani> The same reason there's MorphOS for Mac mini.
  • [16:00:23] <mru> nostalgia?
  • [16:00:32] <muriani> and some people just prefer it.
  • [16:00:49] <ukginger> Well I do run Linux, but I miss doing things like writing ARM Asm
  • [16:00:59] <mru> I do that in linux all the time
  • [16:01:05] <mru> and good fun it is
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  • [16:08:35] <ukginger> So, has anyone managed to get RISC OS 5 running on a Beagleboard ?
  • [16:09:34] <mru> sorry, don't know
  • [16:10:45] <ukginger> Thanks for your time
  • [16:11:16] <av500> BB is a niche product, RISC OS 5 is niche, so both combined could have a very small market....
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  • [16:26:09] <eFfeM> is there anyone who has a pointer how to map codes from evdev to keys (and make them appear as keys for an application)
  • [16:26:36] <av500> eFfeM: caps are a go!
  • [16:26:42] <prpplague> eFfeM: there is a test app called evtest.c
  • [16:26:53] <prpplague> eFfeM: you can use that for various hacks
  • [16:27:14] <prpplague> eFfeM: it is a nice tool for use when working on new i/o drivers
  • [16:27:39] <sakoman> Gumstix is starting to post some overo videos on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr8SqHTjf2Q
  • [16:27:59] <prpplague> eFfeM: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/downloads/detail?name=evtest.c&can=2&q=
  • [16:28:05] <sakoman> The voiceover is Gordon Kruberg, the CEO
  • [16:28:22] <prpplague> sakoman: nice
  • [16:29:18] <av500> wow, a calendar...
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  • [16:34:35] <av500> sakoman: what is the wm/de that comes up in that video?
  • [16:35:08] <sakoman> it is a gpe image
  • [16:36:30] <sakoman> here's the recipe:
  • [16:36:32] <sakoman> http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openembedded.git;a=blob;f=recipes/images/omap3-palmtop-image.bb;h=451fdc6317dd89178fbfae07bf428377a870a863;hb=refs/heads/overo
  • [16:39:24] <eFfeM> prpplague: thanks for the link, apparently i forgot evtest
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  • [16:39:56] <prpplague> eFfeM: np, that's what IRC is for, getting pointers when you need it
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  • [16:41:55] <eFfeM> prpplague: yup
  • [16:42:17] <mru> eFfeM: some pointers for you: void *p[4096]
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  • [16:56:38] * eFfeM hugs mru to thank him for this nice gift :-*
  • [16:56:55] <av500> eFfeM: be carefull, they could be all NULL
  • [16:57:31] <koen> sakoman: can I shoot gordon for continuing the image==distro FUD?
  • [16:58:24] <sakoman> koen: no, I need him to keep signing checks when I send an invoice :-)
  • [16:59:15] <koen> darn
  • [16:59:52] <mru> just make sure the bank doesn't find out
  • [17:01:48] <sakoman> koen: at least he mentioned OE and Angstrom a few times
  • [17:02:01] <sakoman> (and didn't call it armstrong)
  • [17:02:18] <av500> armstrong, isnt that the embedded distro?
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  • [17:02:47] <sakoman> av500: no it's an embedded image
  • [17:02:50] <sakoman> :-)
  • [17:02:51] <av500> right
  • [17:03:10] <sakoman> it's all sooo confusing
  • [17:03:35] <av500> how do I load windows 7 into armstrong?
  • [17:03:50] <sakoman> ask koen
  • [17:04:05] <sakoman> he's happy to answer that question
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  • [17:04:41] * sakoman better be carefull or koen will want to shoot him too
  • [17:05:02] <av500> he came back trigger happy it seems
  • [17:05:03] * sakoman thinks koen had a little too much fun at the range
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  • [17:18:01] <eFfeM> av500: Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer, for chaos and madness await thee at its end
  • [17:19:14] <av500> eFfeM: I will ask you for your physical pointer in a few days..
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  • [17:19:38] <djlewis> hmmm...
  • [17:20:39] <lifeeth> :)
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  • [17:20:59] * djlewis is not going there !
  • [17:22:52] <djlewis> sakoman: the spider is still hanging around and under 40 degreeF at night. Allt he others have packed it in.
  • [17:23:22] <sakoman> some folks will put up with a lot to be on camera!
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  • [17:23:52] <hlfshell> Hello everyone... I'm about to purchase a beagleboard and wanted to ensure that I was purchasing the correct peripherals for it as well...
  • [17:24:42] <djlewis> peripherals kinda depend on your goals.
  • [17:25:11] <hlfshell> well, whats the basic peripherals that i need?
  • [17:25:15] <av500> gold plated cables are a must!
  • [17:25:21] <eFfeM> hlfshell: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardShoppingList
  • [17:25:50] <SoulBlade> on boot, im getting a lot of messages from tar about timestamp ... is X s in the future - is this bad?
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  • [17:28:58] <djlewis> great list for first time shoppers :)
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  • [17:33:34] <eFfeM> SoulBlade: afaik this is not harmful, issie is that the bb has no hw clock so it thinks it is jan 1, 1970 or so
  • [17:35:06] <prpplague> eFfeM: unless you are using a zippy, hehe
  • [17:35:23] <SoulBlade> ok
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  • [17:36:57] <SoulBlade> i have sgx_render_test and sgx_blit_test working (flip tests fail w/ too many buffers error) but my gles tests are failing w/ EGL_NOT_INITIALIZED - koen suggests in a forum to increase the vram to dss2 - is that just adding omapfb.vram="4M,4M,4M" to the boot args? whats the defualt allocated?
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  • [17:37:51] <SoulBlade> just built an x11 image w/o changing kernel config through OE
  • [17:38:34] <eFfeM> prpplague: of course :-)
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  • [17:47:40] <koen> SoulBlade: have a look at the default uboot config, that has samples for vram
  • [17:48:08] <SoulBlade> i think i found it - vram=24M omapfb.vram=0:8M, 1:8M, 2:8M
  • [17:48:25] <av500> gee, 24MB down the gutter...
  • [17:48:29] <SoulBlade> heh
  • [17:48:36] <koen> SoulBlade: basically: allocate enough vram and then do 'fbset -vyres <3 * xres>'
  • [17:48:36] <SoulBlade> well im just tryin to get somethin running - after that ill fix it up
  • [17:48:51] <koen> so -vyres 2160 for 720p
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  • [17:50:52] <SoulBlade> my geometry says its 1280 360 1280 360 @ 32 bpp when i specified omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60
  • [17:51:18] <SoulBlade> i didnt see anything obvious in the dmesg or startup output
  • [17:52:34] <SoulBlade> bootargs are console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait nohz=off omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 vram=24M omapfb.vram=0:8M, 1:8M,2:8M
  • [17:52:48] <koen> why nohz=off?
  • [17:53:02] <koen> I keep seeing people doing that without a good explanation?
  • [17:53:08] <SoulBlade> grabbed from someone elses
  • [17:53:13] <SoulBlade> so thats not a very good explanation
  • [17:53:21] <koen> exactly :)
  • [17:53:29] <SoulBlade> but its in various emails in lists/chains
  • [17:53:51] <koen> I have: console=tty1 omapfb.vrfb=1 omapfb.mode=dvi:1024x600MR-24@60 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait rootfstype=ext3 mem=88M@0x80000000 mem=128M@0x88000000 vram=18M omapfb.vram=0:10M,1:4M,2:4M
  • [17:54:05] <koen> SoulBlade: let me put it this way: if other people jump of a cliff, would you?
  • [17:54:20] <ds2> Mmmmm lemmings
  • [17:54:25] <SoulBlade> if they ended up in the same spot i wanted to get to :)
  • [17:54:29] <SoulBlade> but yea i see your point
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  • [17:54:47] <SoulBlade> im just trying to sift through mailing list posts about sgx, gles2 demos
  • [17:54:51] <koen> AIUI nohz=off is only for TI 2.6.22 kernels being buggy
  • [17:55:19] <SoulBlade> as soon as i can run the gles2test1 demo, i can probably just code somethng up and do what im really trying to do
  • [17:56:00] <SoulBlade> but its a matter of setting up the board properly and dealing with stuff thats probably a mix of recent and out of date info
  • [17:56:15] <ds2> there are corner cases where nohz=off can save power
  • [17:56:34] <ds2> koen: did you ever get anywhere with the structured light stuff?
  • [17:58:17] <koen> ds2: no, that went to the bottom of my todo
  • [17:59:06] <ds2> koen: 'k cleaning out my bookmark list and noticed the links I got from you
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  • [18:01:50] <SoulBlade> yea keep getting: 'eglCreateWindowSurface' returned egl error 'EGL_NOT_INITIALIZED' (0x3001)
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  • [18:02:08] <koen> SoulBlade: ES2.x or ES3.x cpu?
  • [18:02:29] <SoulBlade> its a rev B6
  • [18:02:41] <SoulBlade> im using the .09 drivers
  • [18:02:56] <SoulBlade> sgx_render_test works fine - sgx_flip_test fails w/ the too many buffers error
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  • [18:03:30] <SoulBlade> so im not sure if im ES2.x or 3.x - but hopefully that provides info on it?
  • [18:04:19] <koen> B6 is es2.x
  • [18:04:43] <koen> es3.x received an updated powervr core that fixed some hw bugs
  • [18:04:48] <SoulBlade> ah
  • [18:05:34] <koen> could you try vram=24M omapfb.vram=0:16M,1:4M,2:4M ?
  • [18:05:40] <SoulBlade> sure thing
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  • [18:07:17] <SoulBlade> same err
  • [18:07:34] <SoulBlade> render and blit still work
  • [18:07:43] <koen> you're able to increase vyres with fbset?
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  • [18:08:11] <SoulBlade> i've not tried the vyres - fbset is now reporting the correct geometry for me so i figured it was ok
  • [18:08:46] <koen> fbset -vyres 2160 if you're using 720p
  • [18:09:18] <koen> then fbset should give you geometry 1280 720 1280 2160 32
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  • [18:09:41] <av500> koen: 1024x600x24 is 1.8M, so what for do you need 10M?
  • [18:10:16] <SoulBlade> ah - no its still set to 1280 720 1280 720 16 (my omapfb.mode is dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 in bootargs)
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  • [18:15:23] <SoulBlade> koen - any other suggestions?
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  • [18:17:22] <av500> mru: http://icculus.org/fatelf/
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  • [18:25:37] <SoulBlade> slick
  • [18:26:49] <SoulBlade> xgles test worked..
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  • [18:29:25] <SoulBlade> thats nice
  • [18:29:45] <mru> av500: are you trying to kill me?
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  • [18:31:39] <av500> mru: why?
  • [18:31:51] <av500> just gouging how much you can take :-)
  • [18:32:14] <mru> why don't you try to determine how much beer I can take instead?
  • [18:32:45] <av500> sure
  • [18:34:25] <mru> or ask my boss, he already did the experiment
  • [18:36:12] <suihkulokki> how much you can take or how much beer you can take?
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  • [18:37:42] <av500> suihkulokki: I guess both
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  • [18:44:37] <mru> suihkulokki: how much bs I can take
  • [18:44:50] <Crofton> I need to post that in #oe
  • [18:45:38] <gremlin[it]> hi all
  • [18:45:58] <mru> Crofton: what? how much I can drink?
  • [18:46:00] <gremlin[it]> the dafault angstrom image didn't intitialize usb ... is normal ?
  • [18:46:30] <mru> Crofton: the amount I consumed at last fosdem was slightly in excess of that limit
  • [18:46:41] <Crofton> heh
  • [18:46:49] <Crofton> gremlin[it], what do you mean?
  • [18:47:28] <gremlin[it]> hi Crofton i have plugged a mouse and keyboard ... but mouse didn't powerup the led ...
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  • [18:47:59] <Crofton> which connector are you using?
  • [18:48:07] <Crofton> you might need a powered hub
  • [18:48:22] * Crofton doesn't actually use the mouse and kb ....
  • [18:48:33] <mru> Crofton uses butterflies
  • [18:48:42] * Crofton uses the serial port
  • [18:49:02] <gremlin[it]> Crofton, mhhh powered hub on mini-usb sometime work sometime no ... usb host now seem to work (before no) ...
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  • [18:49:45] <gremlin[it]> i need to show beagle as a desktop replacement ... so it need mouse/keyb/network and DVI ...
  • [18:49:58] <mru> Crofton: with the butterfly line discipline
  • [18:51:32] <maelcum|uni> gremlin[it]: replugging the hub helped in my case
  • [18:53:05] <Crofton> also, are you using the EHCI port?
  • [18:53:06] <gremlin[it]> mhhhh maelcum|uni seem as at boot sometime work usb-otg sometime usb-host .. never both ...
  • [18:53:25] <gremlin[it]> Crofton, how i plug on EHCI and work
  • [18:53:45] <Crofton> which beagle do you have?
  • [18:53:49] <maelcum|uni> gremlin[it]: get used to shit not working... i guess :/
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  • [18:54:30] <gremlin[it]> maelcum|uni, what shit ? the hub ? the beagle ? ...
  • [18:55:10] <maelcum|uni> for me it's the usb otg port that never works 100% like i would like
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  • [18:56:18] <ds2> fatelf is fine as long as the default for strip is to drop everything but the arch the strip tool is compiled for
  • [18:56:58] <mru> it serves no purpose
  • [18:57:21] <mru> just have users install the correct build for their machine, job done
  • [18:57:29] <av500> it helps your ultralite laptop from floating away....
  • [18:57:33] <mru> if they can't do that, they don't deserve to live
  • [18:57:48] <ds2> I not saying I like it; I am just saying, if you insist on putting in such crap, do XYZ
  • [18:58:05] <ds2> crap seems to be making it in
  • [18:58:55] <mru> where crap goes, I leave
  • [18:59:13] <mru> guess I'll have to switch to plan9 sooner or later
  • [18:59:50] <kblin> maelcum|uni: usb otg works fine for me now
  • [19:00:01] <maelcum|uni> kblin: what did you do?
  • [19:00:32] <kblin> maelcum|uni: install a more recent ubuntu kernel, mostly because that had modules for ip6filter
  • [19:00:40] <maelcum|uni> my board was working for a few weeks of light usage, then i scp-ed a very large file and... bam, crash
  • [19:00:55] <kblin> then I decided to give USB a try, and it's been fine so far
  • [19:01:03] <maelcum|uni> heh
  • [19:01:15] <maelcum|uni> my board fails to boot with the recommended kernel from the wiki
  • [19:01:19] <kblin> that is, I first tried EHCI, that failed even faster than before
  • [19:01:27] <maelcum|uni> woot
  • [19:01:45] <gremlin[it]> another question, what you suggest as angstrom image: build from OE.stable? build from Oe.dev? download prebuild (from where?) ... thanks
  • [19:01:52] <kblin> but OTG works nicely on a powered hub with a self-powered external USB drive
  • [19:02:19] <maelcum|uni> i was trying to install ubuntu first with the recommended kernel and then switch to the validation kernel, but i failed at the install step.
  • [19:02:35] <maelcum|uni> kblin: so you have a revC board? because mine is revB.
  • [19:02:55] <kblin> ah, right, I haven't switched my RevB yet
  • [19:03:06] <kblin> but the RevC works like a bliss
  • [19:03:23] <maelcum|uni> i have enough other stuff to do right now so i just gave up until there is a new recommended kernel
  • [19:03:26] <SoulBlade> hmm any idea why the ogre3d samples don't present me with any option to select a rendering system in the popup box?
  • [19:03:57] <kblin> maelcum|uni: he, same here
  • [19:04:16] <SoulBlade> i just get an empty renderer options section
  • [19:04:33] <kblin> maelcum|uni: but the sheevaplug I was running as my fileserver died, and I already got used to having that fileserver around
  • [19:04:42] <kblin> so I was willing to spend an evening on that
  • [19:05:21] <kblin> turned out to be a very long evening (uImage and modules from the .deb disagree what the exact kernel extra version name is)
  • [19:05:38] <maelcum|uni> interesting
  • [19:05:56] <kblin> but a simple mv fixed that
  • [19:06:18] <kblin> and I'm told the alternative was to extract the kernel from the deb file instead
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  • [19:13:53] <kblin> anyway, I'm not touching that system now. :)
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  • [19:19:52] <koen> SoulBlade: so it's working now?
  • [19:23:44] <koen> av500: I bet I can scare some people with that fatelf link :)
  • [19:24:19] <av500> have fun
  • [19:24:25] <mru> who would want a fat elf?
  • [19:24:33] <eFfeM> hm, generated a new image with amethyst, and when insmodding modules I get pvrusb2: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
  • [19:26:52] <SoulBlade> koen - well the xgles1test1 is working
  • [19:26:53] <kblin> mru: then never look at LotR cosplay pictures :)
  • [19:27:14] <SoulBlade> the ogre3d ones are not but i think its a config thing and the Skybox one isn't
  • [19:27:21] <SoulBlade> is there source for xgles1test1?
  • [19:33:44] <koen> eFfeM: did you use the tar.bz2 or sd image?
  • [19:39:06] <eFfeM> bz2 on a fresh rfs which means I am still using my old kernel :-) ty
  • [19:39:32] <eFfeM> we need a smiley showing someone who has seen the light :-)
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  • [19:49:08] * djlewis has spent many evenings starting out thinking it would be fast and simple.
  • [19:49:25] <djlewis> and Beaglebaord and software said otherwise.
  • [19:49:45] <SoulBlade> anybody got sample source for egl apps on the beagle? im able to create a context but can't create a window surface with the same config
  • [19:50:39] <SoulBlade> i can initalize egl, choose a configuration with specified attributes, and create a context with it
  • [19:50:45] * djlewis is dyslexic today...
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  • [20:08:15] <SoulBlade> hey what do you know.. found the TrainingCourses..
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  • [20:22:52] <torus> good evening everyone.
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  • [20:27:26] <djlewis> good afternoon torus
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  • [20:34:31] <torus> does anyone know how I can get kernel-headers for images built with the angstrom online builder (e.g. this one: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/). I'm super-happy with the images I get, but I need the headers because I want to write a module or two...
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  • [20:52:18] <SoulBlade> sigh.. anybody gotten the training course stuff in the graphics sdk to run properly for x11? when i try the x11 initialization sample my x11 window is filled with junk / static
  • [20:52:27] <SoulBlade> not the clear screen expected
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  • [20:59:46] <SoulBlade> and once again.. nevermind
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  • [21:02:57] <djlewis> cool, never used my otg before. Works as prescribed :)
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  • [21:04:57] <ds2> hmmm
  • [21:05:09] <mru> djlewis: you mean it makes you insane?
  • [21:05:19] <djlewis> hehee
  • [21:05:44] <djlewis> just thought with all the bus loading of two webcams I might hang one on each hub.
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  • [21:38:44] <djlewis> maybe one of my external hubs is bad...
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  • [21:46:45] <djlewis> seems better with another hub :)
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  • [22:09:44] <jkridner|work> anyone going to http://www.altparty.org/2009/ ?
  • [22:10:13] * jkridner|work wonders why I didn't know about this and why, when I'm going to Germany on Friday, that I didn't see this!
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  • [22:14:10] <_av500_> jkridner|work: heh, comin' here? where and when'
  • [22:14:13] <_av500_> ?
  • [22:14:34] <jkridner|work> I'm flying into Frankfurt on Saturday morning and driving to Munich on Sunday.
  • [22:14:53] <_av500_> jkridner|work: and on Sat?
  • [22:15:56] <jkridner|work> hanging out in Frankfurt.
  • [22:16:00] <jkridner|work> where are you at?
  • [22:16:17] <jkridner|work> I'm planning on site-seeing.
  • [22:16:38] <_av500_> 30min south of it
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  • [22:17:48] <Crofton|work> _av500_, S of Munich?
  • [22:18:01] <_av500_> no, south of FRA
  • [22:18:04] <Crofton|work> ah
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