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  • [01:45:54] <Mag_> Hi, please tell me the difference between progressive and interlace mode in s-video driver and to configure these two mode in DSS? Thanks
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  • [01:54:47] <muriani> ...progressive mode in s-video?
  • [01:54:49] <muriani> such exists?
  • [01:54:53] <mru> no
  • [01:55:10] <muriani> I was under the impression that s-video was NTSC/PAL interlaced only
  • [01:55:19] <mru> correct
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  • [02:11:06] <Mag_> mru: muriani: how to configure the DSS in interlace mode?
  • [02:25:23] <Mag_> How i can get the latest implementation of linux s-video driver? link?
  • [02:53:48] <muriani> I set it in uboot, I think
  • [02:54:15] <muriani> if you're using a recent Angstrom image, all the software you need should be there.
  • [02:54:38] <muriani> I don't remember exactly how I set it up in uboot though, the beagle's not set up currently
  • [02:58:31] <Mag_> muriani: please send me the link to download angstrom kernel implemented s-video driver
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  • [03:01:48] <muriani> Mag_: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/
  • [03:03:00] <muriani> if you select "beagleboard" as the machine, and run through the little setup there, you'll get an image you can DD onto an SD card that contains the kernel and partitions you need. It also has a tarball of the userland you might want as well.
  • [03:03:44] <muriani> Other ways of getting the kernel often involve building your own using OpenEmbedded, and I can't say that I'm an expert on that.
  • [03:04:05] <muriani> the 2.6.28 kernel and higher in OE have support for the s-video output
  • [03:04:25] <muriani> it needs to be enabled at boot time in the u-boot firmware though, if I recall correctly.
  • [03:05:39] <muriani> Unfortunately, I googled heavily for the steps to get it working on mine, and failed to document them. Someone else may know better.
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  • [03:17:38] <Mag_> muriani: 2.6.28 kernel link please?
  • [03:17:50] <muriani> I don't have one.
  • [03:18:00] <muriani> I've linked you the resource I do have
  • [03:19:33] <Mag_> muriani
  • [03:19:43] <Mag_> muriani: is there any git for DSS?
  • [03:19:53] <muriani> I don't know, I haven't used the git.
  • [03:20:07] <Mag_> muriani:ok thnx
  • [03:20:15] <muriani> All I've done, sadly, is use the narcissus link I gave you earlier to set up linux on my beagle.
  • [03:20:33] <muriani> That had everything I needed for s-video out, software-wise
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  • [03:21:14] <Mag_> muriani: i m not linux user thats y dont knw how to fetch source from the link provided by u
  • [03:21:40] <muriani> there's no source there, it is a linux image builder
  • [03:22:01] <Mag_> muriani: after building the image i have downloaded it and when i extract it, it give me linux directory hierarchy
  • [03:22:12] <muriani> you will need a linux machine
  • [03:22:20] <Mag_> muriani: yes u r right, but i need source
  • [03:22:24] <muriani> you'll need linux to do pretty much anything on the beagle
  • [03:22:25] <muriani> no
  • [03:22:51] <muriani> there's an image file as well that should have the kernel if you want to put it on an SD card to boot.
  • [03:23:19] <muriani> dd if=image_name of=/dev/<sdcard device here>
  • [03:23:42] <Mag_> muriani:no, my problem is to find the register configuration for s-video, not just to view the image running
  • [03:23:49] <muriani> ah
  • [03:23:53] <muriani> that, I don't know.
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  • [03:24:01] <muriani> I know practically nothing about DSS and such
  • [03:24:07] <Mag_> muriani:ok np, once again thx
  • [03:24:17] <muriani> end user here, not developer :)
  • [03:24:34] <Mag_> muriani: fine.. ;-)
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  • [05:33:27] <janaki> is there anyoneworked on zebu omap3430
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  • [05:49:02] <kblin> crap
  • [05:49:24] <av500> right!
  • [05:50:21] <kblin> I mean it's nice to know that the delivery problems with the beagle board seem to be over, but they were supposed to ship it to california in a month, not to the billing address now
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  • [05:55:53] <av500> but then you have 1 mo to ship to CA... ;)
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  • [06:25:06] <kblin> av500: yeah, but I need to pay shipping and import tax now
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  • [06:35:19] <av500> kblin: :(
  • [06:35:27] <av500> where did it go to?
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  • [06:44:46] <kblin> av500: germany
  • [06:45:53] <_koen_> good morning all
  • [06:46:04] <kblin> morning koen
  • [06:46:55] <av500> kblin: give it to me theen :-)
  • [06:47:06] <av500> I'll pay the postage
  • [06:47:45] <kblin> ha, that's easy, postage from digi-key to me is free
  • [06:47:56] <kblin> just shipping it to CA would cost
  • [06:48:05] <kblin> luckily I've got a suitcase :)
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  • [06:48:14] <av500> they have enuf BBs in CA already...
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  • [06:48:31] <kblin> but I need it there for a conference :)
  • [06:48:34] <av500> going on a hacking vacation?
  • [06:48:36] <av500> ah right
  • [06:48:52] <ds2> there is never enough BB's in CA :P
  • [06:49:18] <av500> ds2: yeah, they can be used as $150 IOUs...
  • [06:49:24] <kblin> I wouldn't mind for the conference being someplace else. CA is on the wrong side of the continent
  • [06:49:46] <av500> turn the map upside down...
  • [06:50:12] <kblin> :)
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  • [07:06:55] <gss> hi any one know how to make an application that runs on beagle board using the RVDS 4.0
  • [07:06:57] <gss> ?
  • [07:10:31] <kblin> not me, I had to look up RVDS :)
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  • [07:16:23] <ds2> have you consider asking the folks to sell RVDS?
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  • [07:48:59] <_dash_> Can anybody suggest a good forum for network programing ?
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  • [07:55:59] <eFfeM> _dash_: depends on what you want to do: low level socket programming? web applications with AJAX? php? ....
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  • [08:02:41] <hrw> morning
  • [08:02:50] <hrw> stupid question I have
  • [08:02:56] <av500> stupid answer i give
  • [08:03:05] <hrw> how to really unsubscribe from beagleboard mailinglist?
  • [08:03:11] <av500> you cannot!
  • [08:03:33] <hrw> each mail has "to unsubscribe mail to EMAIL" and result is 'you are now unsubscribed' mail
  • [08:03:33] <av500> you signed up for life
  • [08:03:42] <hrw> but mails arrive anyway
  • [08:03:48] <eFfeM> it is like hotel california: you can check out any time you want but you an never leave
  • [08:04:00] <eFfeM> s/an/can/
  • [08:04:08] <av500> please bring me more wine
  • [08:04:26] <eFfeM> more wine for av500 !
  • [08:05:04] <ds2> more whine coming up :D
  • [08:05:22] <av500> for sure
  • [08:05:23] <eFfeM> coffee break: this starts to feel good. start at 9.30 have coffee break at 10.00
  • [08:05:39] <av500> which reminds me...
  • [08:05:47] <_koen_> I should make coffee
  • [08:06:02] * av500 crawls to the machine
  • [08:07:25] <av500> ICB: international coffee break...
  • [08:07:35] <_koen_> universal coffee time
  • [08:07:48] <av500> icb on irc at uct...
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  • [08:27:06] <mru> morning, silly people
  • [08:29:53] <av500> gm
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  • [08:38:24] <eFfeM> morning mru
  • [08:38:36] <eFfeM> any progress on the compiler comparison?
  • [08:39:09] <mru> I'll try to post something on my blog today
  • [08:39:29] <eFfeM> great (but what is the address of your blog)
  • [08:39:37] <mru> hardwarebug.org
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  • [08:41:23] <mru> I was going to do it last night but found libjpeg needed more mocking than I'd expected
  • [08:41:41] <av500> mru: and a good mock u did!
  • [08:41:48] <eFfeM> i'm reading the jpeg blog, nice article
  • [08:42:18] <av500> but why did your rss feed not give me the mock...
  • [08:42:29] <mru> no idea
  • [08:42:34] <eFfeM> btw if you happen to have a pointer to code that can quickly downscale jpeg's, please enlighten me
  • [08:42:47] <_koen_> av500: maybe you subscribed to a 'labeled' rss feed
  • [08:43:00] <_koen_> eFfeM: epeg
  • [08:43:02] <mru> the quickest way is to drop dct coefficients
  • [08:43:18] <ant_work> _koen_: I'm a bit shocked: Samsung NC10 running Leopard 10.5.7 ... openoffice useable...
  • [08:43:38] <_koen_> ant_work: shouldn't you be using neo office on osx?
  • [08:43:43] <mru> openoffice useable, now that's a shocker
  • [08:43:45] * eFfeM wants to generate thumbnails on the fly when copying pictures to his NAS
  • [08:44:01] <av500> eFfeM: as said, drop all but DC, gives you 1:8 downscale
  • [08:44:06] <eFfeM> _koen_: will loek at epeg
  • [08:44:08] <mru> eFfeM: just do normal scaling and cache them
  • [08:44:20] <mru> dct scaling looks terrible
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  • [08:44:30] <_koen_> hey XorA
  • [08:44:34] <av500> eFfeM: but we discussed that here already and cocluded on cahcing, no?
  • [08:44:36] <XorA> hey _koen_
  • [08:44:43] <eFfeM> mru: I do want to cache
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  • [08:45:22] * eFfeM is slowly getting into gear after 3 weeks of vacation :-)
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  • [08:49:13] <av500> _koen_: waz that labeled feed?
  • [08:54:54] <methril|work> good morning
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  • [09:15:59] <eFfeM> quick bench: epeg takes half a second cpu, 1 sec elapsed to convert a 7Mpix pic of 5 MB to a 150 pixel wide thumbnail (6434 bytes). this is on sheeva (1.2GB arm) (and yes, I know this is #beagle, but the sheeva was up and running and the beagle board is not atm)
  • [09:20:50] <eFfeM> as a comparison, imagemagick takes 36 seconds (same setup)
  • [09:22:40] <ThomasEgi> there are about a dozen of different algorithms to resize images. depending on which one it uses i'm not surprised that some are faster than others
  • [09:23:11] <eFfeM> i know
  • [09:23:30] <eFfeM> looking for a fast one
  • [09:23:53] <ThomasEgi> linear / nearest would be amongst the fastest, but also worst quality
  • [09:24:01] <eFfeM> actually epeg seems a good start, but probably will let it generate bmp instead of recoding to jpg
  • [09:24:57] <mru> eFfeM: you could check if the image already has an embedded thumbnail
  • [09:25:04] <mru> that would be the fastest of all
  • [09:25:32] <ThomasEgi> and if not.. this really sounds like a job for a DSP :)
  • [09:25:33] <eFfeM> mru, sure but it is not too likely that it is the res I need/want
  • [09:25:37] <av500> hmm, can an embedded thumbnail embedd another one?
  • [09:25:47] <mru> av500: sure
  • [09:25:53] <mru> russian dolls
  • [09:26:04] <av500> cool, progressive JPG on the cheap :-)
  • [09:26:12] <mru> ;-)
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  • [09:42:07] <mru> two things about epeg: 1) it's just a wrapper around libjpeg
  • [09:42:21] <mru> 2) it uses libjpeg's dct scaling
  • [09:42:30] <mru> so quality will suck
  • [09:42:48] <mru> 3) it's obsolete
  • [09:43:17] * av500 updates dictionary entry for "two"
  • [09:44:40] <_koen_> yeah, epeg was a quick hack by raster
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  • [09:47:16] <av500> here is some remarks about epeg not nice: http://www.exactcode.de/site/open_source/exactimage/lossless_jpeg/
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  • [09:54:51] <_koen_> av500: yes, but that's exactcode, you should shoot Rene on sight before he can spout nonsense
  • [09:55:28] <mru> well, block-averaging scaling *is* crap
  • [09:56:39] * av500 has no idea who exactcode was/is/willbe
  • [10:04:11] <eFfeM> mru, i know it uses libjpeg
  • [10:04:27] <Crofton|work> why do I wake up so early?
  • [10:05:08] <mru> because you can't wait to get on #beagle
  • [10:05:57] <av500> Crofton|work: coz u miss us
  • [10:06:22] <Crofton|work> I hope those are both not true :)
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  • [10:08:01] * eFfeM is undecisive if Crofton|work actually can sleep at work, or has not home and is therefore @ work 24/7
  • [10:08:23] <av500> eFfeM: whats "home" :-)
  • [10:08:42] <av500> ah right, the place with less Mbit/s...
  • [10:08:51] <av500> ymmv
  • [10:08:54] <Crofton|work> what is work?
  • [10:09:13] <eFfeM> home is the place where you have to clean the restroom yourself
  • [10:09:13] <av500> s/.*|//
  • [10:09:27] <av500> anyway, gotta run "home" for a few h...
  • [10:09:28] <eFfeM> work is reality
  • [10:09:39] <Crofton|work> frak
  • [10:09:39] <eFfeM> reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
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  • [10:09:48] <Crofton|work> they have already announced the date for FOSDEM
  • [10:13:16] <mru> so they have
  • [10:13:28] <mru> are you going?
  • [10:13:34] <hrw> I am
  • [10:13:45] <Crofton|work> assumig air fare is sane
  • [10:13:58] <Crofton|work> I suspect I will also need to go to .de in early March though
  • [10:14:01] <mru> I'll try to get an ffmpeg stand
  • [10:14:04] <eFfeM> feb 6 + 7, 2010
  • [10:14:08] <Crofton|work> assuming I can get back into .de
  • [10:14:09] <eFfeM> more info in less bits
  • [10:14:14] <Crofton|work> mrc3, that would be cool
  • [10:14:33] <eFfeM> will prob be there at least one day
  • [10:14:33] <hrw> my wife's bday is 4th feb so it looks like we will have to move bday party
  • [10:14:55] <eFfeM> hrw, ideal! offer her a trip to Brussels as b'day present
  • [10:15:28] <mru> I'd think twice before dragging a woman to fosdem
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  • [10:15:35] <hrw> eFfeM: and who will take care of our 2 years old daughter?
  • [10:15:37] <mru> unless it's a geek chick of course
  • [10:15:49] <hrw> eFfeM: and fosdem is not for non-geek woman
  • [10:16:06] <eFfeM> hrw, don't throw in complications :-)
  • [10:16:24] <hrw> eFfeM: for me fosdem is more and more think-before-go conference
  • [10:16:45] <hrw> lot of people, too big amount of talks in too few days
  • [10:16:48] <eFfeM> there are the spouse trips and if you give them your credit card you they will keep themselves busy in Brussels
  • [10:16:57] <mru> hrw: but lots of good beer!
  • [10:17:05] <eFfeM> hrw, true, but for me it is just an hour drive
  • [10:17:13] <Crofton|work> admission price is good
  • [10:17:13] <hrw> mru: I can buy Leffe ~1km from home ;D
  • [10:17:31] * mru can buy leffe 100m from home
  • [10:17:33] <Crofton|work> and air fare to .eu in Feb is cheaper thatn travel within .us
  • [10:17:41] * eFfeM does not want to buy Leffe
  • [10:17:46] * eFfeM prefers Westmalle
  • [10:17:50] <Crofton|work> that remins me, need to look at oedem data and airfar
  • [10:18:01] * eFfeM lives only a few km from the Belgian border
  • [10:18:37] <eFfeM> back to #beagle: has anyone looked at the IGEP2 SDK ?
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  • [10:19:09] <hrw> Crofton|work: oedem... still not decided anything... (other then 'it has to be oedem in 2009')
  • [10:19:13] <eFfeM> hm trying to compile exactode: codecs/dcraw.h:6469: warning: array subscript is above array bounds
  • [10:19:17] <eFfeM> i hate those
  • [10:19:53] <mru> dodgy code
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  • [10:21:37] <eFfeM> koen, have you stopped blogging: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/cms/ is not modified for 3 months
  • [10:21:47] <eFfeM> btw when/where is oedem ?
  • [10:23:00] <raster> _koen_: epeg was a sanity wrapper around libjpeg
  • [10:23:01] <hrw> october or november, not decided where
  • [10:23:09] <_koen_> eFfeM: no, I just became more lazy
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  • [10:23:40] <raster> getting libjpeg to "do stuff" is generally an exercise in pain. almsot no code used the dct downscale features - i couldnt find any good examples
  • [10:23:54] <raster> so i wrote a wrapper. its job in life was to make thumbnails.. fast
  • [10:23:58] <raster> thats all it was meant for
  • [10:24:02] <eFfeM> if it is not too far, i might join. Ruhrgebiet anyone ?
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  • [10:24:27] <mru> raster: I've managed to use the libjpeg downscaling
  • [10:24:32] <raster> (and so scaling adjustments to somehting other than a dct multiple (2, 4, 8) were just a quick pass nearest sample down from the dct level above.
  • [10:24:37] <mru> but I agree it's a painful exercise
  • [10:24:52] <raster> mru: u wrote epega few years back.
  • [10:24:54] <mru> heh, exactly what I did
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  • [10:25:11] <eFfeM> raster wouuld it not be faster to decode to bmp iso jpg
  • [10:25:24] <raster> it has been obsoleted already in evas as evas adopted the same tricks - but it uses the full super-samplign scaler to adjust after the dct level
  • [10:25:40] <raster> eFfeM: ?
  • [10:26:20] <raster> mru: i think a lot of peolpe end up doing it. i just actually made a full fledges public brain-dead api on top that a toddler could figure out and put it up there for anyone interested.
  • [10:27:00] <eFfeM> i need thumbs for web display, was thinking if bmp output would be faster than jpeg
  • [10:27:14] <eFfeM> of course not having studied the way epeg works
  • [10:28:11] <_koen_> get a dm3xx then you can just push jpegs to the hw and have it decode + scale for you :)
  • [10:28:34] <raster> a lot of ppl like to compare things - i remmemebr somehting comparing afterimage.. to imlib1 - when imlib2 was well out and beat afterimages quality and speed hands down. epeg the same - "lets compare" and evas already does this too.. hehehe. :)
  • [10:28:34] <raster> eFfeM: bmp isnt much use as it isnt a core format for al browsers
  • [10:28:34] <raster> well ok- it may happen to work, but jpeg and gif are the original "supported everywhere" formate
  • [10:28:39] <eFfeM> lol, yes, but unfortunately i have to use other hw
  • [10:28:42] <raster> and jpeg output is actually very veryv ery fast
  • [10:29:24] <raster> _koen_: the day jpeg decoding becomes a critical path.. i'll consider an abstraction :)
  • [10:29:41] <raster> in fact/.. theres several bits of hw (SoC's) out there that have ajpeg decoder/accelerator
  • [10:29:42] <raster> i wonder how good they really are.
  • [10:29:54] <eFfeM> yeah, I suppose so if you only fiddle with the dct tables as you do not need to generate the huf tables and recode
  • [10:30:01] <raster> eFfeM: jpeg encode is very fast. it is much faster than png.
  • [10:30:02] <raster> (for a comparison)
  • [10:30:29] <raster> and you're outputting a tiny image. the diff if there is any will be drowned in the noise
  • [10:30:40] <raster> but actually i do need to regen the dct and huff stuff for thumbing
  • [10:31:01] <raster> with libjpeg you deocde to yuv with scale factyor
  • [10:31:07] <raster> then re-encode from there
  • [10:31:24] <raster> u avoid a lot of other steps (like yuv->rgb->yuv)
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  • [10:31:41] <raster> but really... it is damn fast. i'd keep my thumbs as jpegs - thats my advice anyway :)
  • [10:32:05] <eFfeM> ok, thanks for the advice
  • [10:32:16] <eFfeM> afk for lunch
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  • [10:59:26] <bbbb> I followed the instructions given in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom for building Angstrom and OE
  • [10:59:53] <bbbb> but While I am trying to execute " bitbake console-image " getting the below ERROR
  • [11:00:21] <bbbb> NOTE: 1: /home/beagle/oe/openembedded/recipes/gettext/gettext- native_0.17.bb, do_populate_staging (1633) NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 324 tasks of which 323 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/home/beagle/oe/openembedded/recipes/qemu/qemu- native_0.10.3.bb' failed
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  • [11:01:12] <Mag_> Hi all, please tell me how to configure pixel clock frequency in DSS for s-video? which register should I configure?
  • [11:02:02] <bbbb> Please help me to install OE & Angstrom ...
  • [11:03:13] <_koen_> bbbb: have you looked at the instructions at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ ? If not, please do so
  • [11:07:01] <eFfeM> does console-image require qemu-native ???
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  • [11:13:04] <_dash_> Hi all
  • [11:13:31] <_dash_> Anybody here with network application programming on beagle board ?
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  • [11:24:12] <_dash_> Anybody here with network app programming ??
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  • [11:24:59] <Crofton> _dash_, Stevens Unix Network Programming book?
  • [11:25:13] <mru> man socket
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  • [11:28:03] <mru> network programming isn't particularly hard
  • [11:28:08] <mru> not the network bit
  • [11:28:34] <mru> getting security right on top of it can be tricky
  • [11:30:34] <_dash_> mru: I understand that
  • [11:30:52] <_dash_> but I am totally new to network programming
  • [11:31:16] <_dash_> I know theory but never done a prograpping of it on Linux platform
  • [11:31:49] <_dash_> mru: Can u please give some guiding pointer so that I can start
  • [11:31:52] <_dash_> ??
  • [11:33:03] <_dash_> My objective is to right simple module that will take IP via DHCP, check whether link is live or not, and get IP current IP of board
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  • [11:33:48] <_dash_> Later 2 parts are simpler but DHCP seems to be little bit difficult
  • [11:34:41] <_dash_> mru: Can u please suggest something regarding developing this app for beagle ?
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  • [11:36:19] <Crofton|work> _dash_, this is not the best channel to ask in
  • [11:36:28] <Crofton|work> this is loads of information on the web
  • [11:36:31] <Crofton|work> and books
  • [11:36:42] <booxter> + source code
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  • [11:36:50] <Crofton|work> irc does not replace research
  • [11:37:29] <_dash_> OK
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  • [11:42:55] <bbbb> I followed the instructions given in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom for building Angstrom and OE but While I am trying to execute " bitbake console-image " getting the below ERROR NOTE: 1: /home/beagle/oe/openembedded/recipes/gettext/gettext- native_0.17.bb, do_populate_staging (1633) NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 324 tasks of which 323 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/home/beagle/oe/openembedd
  • [11:42:55] <Christos_N|Work> back to kernel params with oe (question)
  • [11:44:28] <Christos_N|Work> first we need to have rm_work removed, then we have to go into oe/tmp/work/beagle.../linux-2.6.*/git/ and type make menu config
  • [11:45:11] <Christos_N|Work> then bitbake forced compile and deploy, is that correct up to here or is there a better way for it?
  • [11:46:12] <koen> Christos_N|Work: no need to remove rm_work
  • [11:46:24] <koen> (as has repeatly been said)
  • [11:46:54] <Christos_N|Work> are you sure? !! I think it was you that told me that !!
  • [11:46:58] <koen> bbbb: why do you ignore answer to your question?
  • [11:46:58] <Christos_N|Work> :-)
  • [11:47:41] <Christos_N|Work> so, no need to rm_work removed, but then will the source tree be there after the first bitbake?
  • [11:47:59] <koen> Christos_N|Work: no, you said "OMG IT HAZ REMOVED ZOURCES!!!!", and I said "that's because of rm_work", I didn't say you needed to remove rm_work
  • [11:48:28] <koen> Christos_N|Work: that entirely depends on how you called bitbake
  • [11:48:30] <Christos_N|Work> ok, lets find the proper way then for it
  • [11:48:50] <koen> if you do 'bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile -f' it won't remove anything
  • [11:49:10] <kblin> hm, damn. looks like my energy consumption meter is not exact enough to measure my BB
  • [11:49:28] <Christos_N|Work> ok, thats for the kernel, but if you follow it with a bitbake console-image?
  • [11:50:11] <koen> then it will remove them, but 'bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile -f' will bring them back again
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  • [11:50:56] <Christos_N|Work> ok, I got the solution you told me when I edit/patch some kernel files and it has been completely understood then
  • [11:51:22] <Christos_N|Work> regarding kernel params?
  • [11:51:51] <Christos_N|Work> the same forced compile and deploy of the kernel only?
  • [11:52:37] <Christos_N|Work> and of course I'll lose the params if I do a bitbake console-image right?
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  • [11:53:16] <_koen_> you'll lose nothing if your patches are in SRC_URI as they should
  • [11:53:34] <bbbb> keon: can you suggest whether I missed any tools installation that is required ? may I know why I am getting this error ?
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  • [11:53:55] <Christos_N|Work> I'm not saying anything on patches now, I'm saiyng about kernel params
  • [11:54:00] <bbbb> keon : pls help
  • [11:55:02] <Christos_N|Work> if I want to change an option lets say from module to built in
  • [11:55:21] <Christos_N|Work> I will lose that when I do a bitbake console-image right?
  • [11:55:58] <_koen_> Christos_N|Work: no, only if you rebuild the kernel *and* haven't updated the master defconfig in OE
  • [11:56:16] <Christos_N|Work> aha, so now we are going somewhere
  • [11:56:19] <_koen_> Christos_N|Work: if you update the master defconfig in OE and add your patches to SRC_URI nothing will get lost
  • [11:56:47] <_koen_> and as a bonus you can then use git make a diff to the OE tree and share your patch with the world
  • [11:57:15] <Christos_N|Work> master defconfig in OE then is my next target ... where is it?
  • [11:58:35] <_dash_> Christos_N|Work: Sorry for short disturbance, but if I am not wrong do u work with devkit ?
  • [11:58:54] <Christos_N|Work> _dash_ not only...
  • [11:59:32] <_dash_> yup I know but u work with devkit along with other platforms right ?
  • [11:59:45] <_koen_> and a confcall starts :)
  • [11:59:50] <Christos_N|Work> I got a EBVBeagle for my project, and a DK8K because I found it tempting
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  • [12:00:20] <Christos_N|Work> _koen_ ok I also have to go so we'll continue in a few hours from now
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  • [12:01:48] <Christos_N|Work> _dash_ yes, sideways I try to create a patch for DK8K and OE
  • [12:01:54] <_dash_> Christos_N|Work: I need some help with dk8k audio, for other things I have worked out with beagle kernel
  • [12:03:02] <_dash_> I have got a success in booting beagle kernel on dk8k with eth support up
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  • [12:03:11] <Christos_N|Work> _dash_, goto go now, I'll be online in a few hours
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  • [12:04:22] <_dash_> _koen_ : Dows it disturbs IRC when I talk ?
  • [12:04:26] <_dash_> *does
  • [12:04:52] <_koen_> no, but my attention is elsewhere :)
  • [12:05:04] <_dash_> ok thanks
  • [12:06:32] <_dash_> _koen_: pls let me know if it disturbs bcoz ur attention is important
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  • [12:11:44] <_dash_> Is there any problem with Audio in V2.6.29-r35 ?
  • [12:13:09] <_dash_> I am trying with player -ao alsa and also tried with oss
  • [12:13:16] <_dash_> *mplayer
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  • [12:17:18] <_dash_> _koen_: Is there any problem with audio on V2.6.29-r35
  • [12:17:34] <_dash_> I have build this kernel with bitbake
  • [12:18:21] <_koen_> audio should work with that (it does over here)
  • [12:19:07] <_dash_> mplayes shows me that it is playing audio but actually nothing at speaker o/p
  • [12:19:13] <_dash_> *mplayer
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  • [12:37:10] <_dash_> _koen_ : is V2.6.29-r35 the latest one ?
  • [12:37:22] <_dash_> for OE
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  • [12:59:35] <acollamati> HI, I tried the linux-omap-pm_git.bb, but I did not get any good result. Is it stable or is better waiting before using it? Thanks
  • [13:00:04] <Crofton|work> better off waiting
  • [13:00:08] <Crofton|work> is my guess
  • [13:00:17] <Crofton|work> unless you are following kernel list closely
  • [13:00:29] <acollamati> I think so... no usb working and nothing under /sys/power
  • [13:00:35] <acollamati> ok I will wait
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  • [14:16:06] <slnr> hi
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  • [14:22:27] * av500 is back from the pool, was nice...
  • [14:22:49] <mru> the game or the wet thing?
  • [14:22:53] * mru prefers the game
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  • [14:23:26] <mru> things that try to drown you aren't nice imo
  • [14:23:46] <av500> the wet thing
  • [14:24:08] <av500> lil clone had a swimming lesson :-)
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  • [15:20:51] <Crofton|work> the vision processing questions are crazy
  • [15:21:11] <Crofton|work> just the volume
  • [15:21:26] <Crofton|work> I suppose I should look and see if they are from different people
  • [15:22:56] <av500> maybe we should sell BBs with openCV installed for $250
  • [15:23:28] <Crofton> good idea!
  • [15:23:48] <av500> "your additional 100$ will be used to fuel the BB mailing list and IRC channel..."
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  • [15:26:20] <Crofton> I could SD cards with opencv installed
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  • [15:29:15] <av500> no, too easy to counterfeit...
  • [15:29:39] <av500> we need to create vendor lock-in
  • [15:30:03] <av500> I have some nice DRM we could re-use :-)
  • [15:31:00] * av500 expect to be kicked by a freenode bot now...
  • [15:31:04] <av500> +s
  • [15:31:39] <javaJake> av500: believe it or not, OMAP3 supports DRM tech :P
  • [15:32:49] <av500> sure
  • [15:37:40] <mru> drm is easy, make something that nobody would want to copy, then wave the lack of copies as proof that it works
  • [15:40:13] <av500> ok, lets ditch drm and up the price to $1000, a few will buy nevertheless :-)
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  • [15:41:11] <_koen_> So I guess you'd kielhaul me if I would put opencv in the demo image from now on
  • [15:42:47] <mru> I think people need to be told more how sucky opencv is
  • [15:42:59] <mru> like being virtually impossible to neonify
  • [15:43:19] <_koen_> maybe ARM should add xml processing to ARGOS
  • [15:43:21] <_koen_> ehm
  • [15:43:23] <_koen_> ARGON
  • [15:43:35] <mru> argon?
  • [15:44:13] <_koen_> whatever neon2 is going to be called
  • [15:45:28] <mru> if they do that, I'll switch to smaller processors
  • [15:46:36] <_koen_> who wouldn't want fast xml processing?
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  • [15:49:55] <thaytan> _koen_: speaking of strange things in the demo image... the demo rootfs I have has a strange mix of gstreamer elements
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  • [15:50:26] <thaytan> I can't see any video sinks, for example
  • [15:50:52] <_koen_> thaytan: iirc it only hase elements that get automatically dragged in, not the complete set
  • [15:50:58] <_koen_> -e somewhere
  • [15:51:25] <thaytan> that makes sense
  • [15:51:42] <thaytan> the set that are being dragged in aren't useful as they are though :)
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  • [15:51:45] <_koen_> I guess it would be nice to ship at least base + good and xvsink
  • [15:52:48] <av500> _koen_: no, we just raise the price to 10k$
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  • [16:10:19] <djlewis> <mru> "I think people need to be told more how sucky opencv is", This wont stop the movement. ;)
  • [16:10:31] <djlewis> gm all
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  • [16:14:20] <sakoman> gm djlewis
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  • [16:20:32] <djlewis> gm sakoman , my reader is coming today so my SDHC rmas will be filled.
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  • [16:22:25] <chitti> I am a newbie. Can anyone explain/give pointers/docs for "Functionalities of Beagle Board and its interactions with DSP" ?
  • [16:22:53] <av500> BB ML archives, beagleboard.org
  • [16:23:23] <av500> BB ML archives reference quite a few gettingstartedwiththedsp urls...
  • [16:23:35] <chitti> thanks av500
  • [16:23:50] <av500> Crofton|work: CTRL-V now!
  • [16:24:34] <thaytan> :q
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  • [16:26:59] <sakoman> djlewis: I hope it fixes your issues!
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  • [16:29:06] <djlewis> me too! :)
  • [16:37:06] <djlewis> sakoman: I tested BB again and it will run for days with no failure with webcam and wifi under existing pre build card.
  • [16:38:47] <av500> djlewis: so the bot could have reached state border by now? :-)
  • [16:39:44] <sakoman> djlewis: which image worked for days?
  • [16:41:53] <djlewis> av500: Yep, it can run pretty fast on 12vDC, so does the Beagleboard ;)
  • [16:42:06] <av500> let it roam free
  • [16:42:17] <djlewis> sakoman: you have to ask ;), your 2.6.29 and 2.6.30 images :)
  • [16:43:08] <av500> djlewis: but u need to teach it to leech from car batteries 1st...
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  • [16:45:30] <djlewis> av500: Damn good, most excellent idea ...
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  • [16:51:40] <djlewis> av500: this is where some folk are going with the tracks I use. http://www.trossenrobotics.com/lynxmotion-johnny-5-combo-kit.aspx
  • [16:53:43] <av500> djlewis: hmm, no weapons mounted....
  • [16:56:23] <av500> ...,running a very stripped down version of win xp ... yuck...
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  • [16:58:01] * koen grrrrrrrs at dutch customs
  • [16:58:02] <av500> djlewis: look like you need XP to control a robot: http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1509/j5consolegw9.jpg :-)
  • [16:58:15] <koen> my replacement keyboard for the laptop is still being 'examined'
  • [16:58:32] <av500> koen: weapons grade chinese platics...
  • [16:58:48] <av500> at least they will lose some keycaps for you....
  • [16:59:08] <koen> I have spares from the old keyb :)
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  • [17:00:13] <koen> sakoman: how are the patches coming along?
  • [17:00:53] <haenschen_> hi, anyone out there who has succesfully build angstrom on bb? i have problems with many broken symlinks in my image
  • [17:01:07] <av500> for bb or on bb?
  • [17:01:16] <koen> sakoman: a certain company from texas asked me about a gnome env :)
  • [17:01:31] <haenschen_> av500: for bb
  • [17:01:34] <av500> must be dell, what else is there in ZX...
  • [17:01:38] <av500> TX
  • [17:03:14] <koen> I should start Twente Instruments just to add to the confusion
  • [17:04:59] <koen> boarding pass printed for train and plane, laptop and clothes packed
  • [17:05:02] <koen> that should be it
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  • [17:05:43] <haenschen_> koen: ever seen a huge amount of broken symlinks like "./sbin/init -> ." when building angstrom for bb?
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  • [17:06:02] <sakoman> koen: what is their goal?
  • [17:06:06] <koen> I do take offence at the fact that half of my bag is taken by the single UK plug
  • [17:06:22] <mru> koen: going to uk?
  • [17:06:26] <sakoman> I'll do a few more patches this week
  • [17:06:30] <av500> sakoman: I wish they knew... :-)
  • [17:06:40] <koen> haenschen_: only when extracting it wrong
  • [17:06:51] <koen> mru: yes, to the office :)
  • [17:07:00] <av500> kidney pie!
  • [17:07:07] <mru> koen: with enough force it's possible to ram a flat euro-plug into a uk socket
  • [17:07:19] <mru> koen: northampton?
  • [17:07:21] <koen> sakoman: I suspect something like ubuntu, but not needing 12 gigs of ram and compiled for last century arm cores
  • [17:07:35] <koen> mru: yep, northampton
  • [17:07:47] <koen> mru: and I packed a anything to anything travel adapter
  • [17:07:47] <av500> koen: last I heard, they are working on the 12Gig thing.... :-)
  • [17:07:57] <mru> koen: you should come to southampton some time
  • [17:08:06] <haenschen_> koen: what is wron with "tar -jxf <image.tar.bz2>"?
  • [17:08:15] <koen> mru: I know :)
  • [17:08:22] <sakoman> koen: send them to my site for a sample
  • [17:08:28] <koen> haenschen_: nothing, but you asked when I saw broken symlinks :)
  • [17:08:54] <sakoman> my goal is to have things in "good" shape for the 2.28 release next month
  • [17:09:28] <koen> sakoman: I told them that and they said "oh, is it in OE yet?" and I said "I'll poke sakoman"
  • [17:09:44] <haenschen_> koen: yeah! So you have no clue what might have went wrong when creating the image?
  • [17:10:03] <sakoman> they have no clue how much work this is :-)
  • [17:10:10] <koen> haenschen_: the busybox postinst could have gone haywire
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  • [17:11:20] <sakoman> koen: I'll submit a few recipes later today
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  • [17:11:36] <koen> sakoman: If you send me a huge diff or tarball of recipes/gnome I could have a look at splitting it up while travelling
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  • [17:12:31] <haenschen_> koen: in this case others shoud have the same problem!?, but i couldn't find similar problems when googling for it
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  • [17:12:48] <_dash_> koen: who is _koen_ is that same person ?
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  • [17:12:57] <koen> haenschen_: is your /bin/sh bash?
  • [17:12:59] <sakoman> koen: On a conference call right now (sound familiar?)
  • [17:13:05] <mru> _koen_ is koen with corporate underscores
  • [17:13:10] <koen> _dash_: _koen_ is my corporate ID :)
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  • [17:13:26] <koen> sakoman: heh, I only had 2 today (overlapping!)
  • [17:13:28] <_dash_> ok
  • [17:13:34] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [17:13:41] <sakoman> koen: I'll submit a bunch tonight that are relatively stable
  • [17:13:45] <haenschen_> koen: no, its: "./bin/sh -> b"
  • [17:13:51] <mru> koen: just connect them to each other and go for coffee
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  • [17:14:23] <koen> haenschen_: did you build the image yourself or did you download it?
  • [17:14:43] <haenschen_> koen: but in tmp/rootfs it's: "bin/sh -> busybox", i build it myself
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  • [17:15:24] <koen> haenschen_: ah, I think fakeroot made a booboo and recycled the wrong inodes
  • [17:16:07] <Christos_N> hi koen, good afternoon, lets see now where is that masterblaster OE defconfig that you were talking about earlier (remember? before the confcall...)
  • [17:16:37] <koen> Christos_N: recipes/linux/linux-omap-2.6.29/beagleboard/defconfig
  • [17:16:53] <Christos_N> hmm, lets see now
  • [17:16:56] <Christos_N> ok
  • [17:17:14] <haenschen_> koen: so, what can i do to fakeroot not making booboo? (i'm still new to bitbake and oe)
  • [17:17:46] <koen> haenschen_: basically try building the image again, it's a heisenbug, hard to trigger and also goes away
  • [17:18:04] <koen> haenschen_: are you on gentoo by any chance?
  • [17:18:48] <av500> djlewis: my coworkers quadcopter just release magic smoke :-)
  • [17:18:53] <_dash_> Anybody can help me with audio ?
  • [17:19:03] <haenschen_> koen: do i need to "rm -r tmp" when building again?
  • [17:19:04] <av500> I'm deaf
  • [17:19:10] <haenschen_> koen: i'm on debian
  • [17:19:22] <koen> haenschen_: no, just 'bitbake <your-image>' again
  • [17:19:55] <haenschen_> koen: i allready tried that
  • [17:20:06] <_dash_> What version of OE is latest one for beagle ?
  • [17:20:41] <_dash_> haenschen_ : what error r u getting ?
  • [17:20:42] <koen> 22cc726e9e05186a3ebb2cc8daa629b89ae7c8f4 or c8b08d3de5564cdfd386abcc2cc24fe8f979fd9e
  • [17:20:56] <LUIS_> THAT ERROR ITS FROM THE BITBAKE
  • [17:21:01] <LUIS_> USE FEDORA
  • [17:21:23] <koen> I guess someone didn't get the memo that shouting is considered rude
  • [17:22:00] <haenschen_> _dash_: no errors during the build process, just broken links in the rootfs-image
  • [17:22:12] <koen> jkridner|work: can we get some kind of netiquette test on the webirc thingy? Or at the least a tolower()?
  • [17:22:18] <_dash_> koen: So if I do pull rebase pull I should be updated to this by default
  • [17:22:22] <av500> koen: NO!
  • [17:22:36] <av500> ah, for webirc, YES!
  • [17:22:44] <koen> av500: :)
  • [17:23:10] <_dash_> haenschen_ : which file system r u using ?
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  • [17:24:04] <haenschen_> _dash_: the oe build files are in my home which is on GFS2
  • [17:25:13] <_dash_> haenschen_: Do u have support for ext3?
  • [17:25:18] <koen> haenschen_: could you try http://pastebin.ca/1518134 ?
  • [17:26:32] <_dash_> koen: Doesn't it look like FS specific problem ?
  • [17:27:02] <koen> _dash_: I suspect fakeroot doesn't like gfs2, but that's only a hunch
  • [17:27:20] <_dash_> ok
  • [17:28:05] <haenschen_> _dash_: of course, i can create an other partition and try again
  • [17:28:53] <koen> haenschen_: you could try bind-mounting something to tmp/rootfs (e.g. tmpfs to be safe)
  • [17:28:53] <_dash_> I think it is better to do that
  • [17:29:20] <koen> I'm unsure if OE does rm tmp/rootfs or tmp/rootfs/*
  • [17:29:49] <koen> in the former case bindmounting won't help
  • [17:30:04] <_dash_> koen: If i do git pull rebase with that metadata I should get latest kernel right of which hash has been provided above
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  • [17:30:31] <_dash_> right ?
  • [17:30:33] <koen> _dash_: r35 is the latest kernel for the stable/2009 branch
  • [17:30:50] <koen> the dev branch has r40, but no audio stuff has been changed between r35 and r40
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  • [17:31:18] <haenschen_> koen: _dash_: thanks for your help, i now have some possibilities to test - will come back to you if problem remains but...
  • [17:32:19] <haenschen_> koen: reason for building my own image is mythfrontend which segfaults on my bb. Am i the only one, or is this common?
  • [17:33:04] <koen> haenschen_: revB5?
  • [17:33:28] <_dash_> koen: I don't know what has gone wrong but unfortunately audio is not working for me.....
  • [17:33:59] <manju> hi how can i use enligtment desktop for gui support ?..
  • [17:34:23] <haenschen_> koen: revB4
  • [17:34:49] <_dash_> I have tried simple test with # cat beep.pcm > /dev/dsp but not working
  • [17:34:49] <koen> haenschen_: ah, right, which uboot version do you have?
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  • [17:35:21] <koen> _dash_: tried mplayer with an mp3 file?
  • [17:35:33] <_dash_> nope
  • [17:35:39] <_dash_> with avi one
  • [17:35:54] <_dash_> I will try mp3
  • [17:36:25] <haenschen_> koen: U-Boot 2008.10 (Nov 19 2008 - 10:38:16) - do you think of the sound problem? wasn't this fixed in kernel?
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  • [17:37:49] <_dash_> koen: but what do u say about 'redirecting simple pcm file to /dev/dsp' not working ??
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  • [17:42:45] <manju> hi i get this error when i run opkg please help ..
  • [17:42:50] <manju> opkg install ffmpeg-dev An error ocurred, return value: -1097344092.
  • [17:45:03] <djlewis> av500: your missle launcher: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/warfare/8a0f/
  • [17:47:08] <Crofton|work> manju, try opkg update
  • [17:47:57] <_dash_> Christos_N : Do you have some time ?? I need to discuss regarding dk8k
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  • [17:50:36] <artz> hi all
  • [17:50:51] <artz> is there a way to increment the oss or alsa buffer size for beagleboard's soundcard?
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  • [17:51:17] <artz> i'm trying asterisk with the oss or alsa module and the sound gets choppy, or even worse
  • [17:53:47] <djlewis> av500: have to monitor the data stream to make it work under linux.
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  • [17:55:43] <av500> djlewis: look, beagles: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/japanfan/9c89/?cpg=ab
  • [17:55:59] <av500> djlewis: why linux, I learned that robotics is XP :-)
  • [17:57:52] <manju> Crofton :hi thanks for the reply .. opkg update runs and the prompt returns to the next line but gives the same error when i run opkg install ffmpeg-dev
  • [17:59:10] <manju> djlewis : lol ... thats really funny :) ..
  • [18:04:40] <koen> haenschen_: yeah, grab the uboot from you deploy dir and use that, it makes some, not all segfaults go away on revB boards
  • [18:08:11] <djlewis> manju: you can thank av500 for the beagle... ughhh :P
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  • [18:08:47] * mru probably doesn't want to know
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  • [18:10:59] <djlewis> av500: thinking about it, perhaps my usb ports were violated causing my SDHC wows last week or two.
  • [18:11:19] <djlewis> :)
  • [18:11:50] <manju> has anybody done baremetal programming on beagleboard ?.. i have eclipse IDE with code sourcery cross compiler ...
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  • [18:14:45] <koen> bleh, alarmclock set to 4 am
  • [18:15:00] <koen> stupid airport being on the wrong part of the country
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  • [18:18:08] <av500> koen: wake me when you leave the house...
  • [18:19:20] <av500> manju: like entering the source code via morse on the user button?
  • [18:19:33] <djlewis> maybe octal?
  • [18:19:45] <av500> on one button?
  • [18:20:10] <djlewis> it has two buttons, one for scroll one to enter ;)
  • [18:20:20] <av500> the 2nd is reset....
  • [18:20:29] <manju> using the approach as 8 bit microcontroller ... with omap.h ..
  • [18:20:33] <djlewis> ok, add one on gpio
  • [18:20:51] <av500> manju: use uboot and add the stuff you need there...
  • [18:21:26] <haenschen_> koen: you mean uboot from ip like "tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/beagleboard/u-boot-dbg_2009.05+r26+gitrd363f9cb0918a1b6b92e2e20d01543d0c4f53274-r26.1_beagleboard.ipk"?
  • [18:21:41] <haenschen_> koen: ip = ipk
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  • [18:23:30] <Guest72268> i had previuosly worked on i.mx21 platform that allowed me to check the gpio status level ...
  • [18:23:55] <Guest72268> so i wanted to know if it is possible on the beagle board ...
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  • [18:26:59] <av500> wow, waited less than 1min for an answer....
  • [18:27:27] <djlewis> hmmm. didn't really want an answer ?
  • [18:27:56] <djlewis> we have lots of answers, some right some wrong and some just off the wall. ;)
  • [18:29:52] <djlewis> av500: I look at the cheapie missle lancher as a pan/tilt alternative. I wonder what it can carry?
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  • [18:30:11] <mj12> hi i get this error ... please help ... opkg install ffmpeg-dev An error ocurred, return value: -1097344092.
  • [18:30:19] <djlewis> it starts at $10.00 US
  • [18:30:25] <mru> djlewis: in flight?
  • [18:30:43] <mru> and what is it's maximum airspeed velocity?
  • [18:31:02] <vlad> djlewis: I have some cheap usb driven nerf missile launchers!
  • [18:31:11] <djlewis> I mean like a webcam rather than the missle launcher.
  • [18:31:15] <vlad> bought a pair from woot for like $10
  • [18:31:18] <av500> vlad: thats what we are talking about
  • [18:31:31] <av500> djlewis: actually, there is one with webcam
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  • [18:31:45] <djlewis> vlad: can you use them with linux?
  • [18:31:56] <av500> http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/05/usb-missile-launcher-adopts-webcam-for-geeky-wars-over-msn/
  • [18:31:58] <vlad> djlewis: they only came with winxp drivers, but it should be trivial to reverse engineer the protocol
  • [18:31:59] <mru> mj12: why do you keep changing nick?
  • [18:32:05] <mru> it won't help you get an answer
  • [18:32:28] <vlad> I don't have them here, can't remember what kind of usb device type it was
  • [18:32:35] <mj12> hey the net was reseting here ...
  • [18:32:37] <av500> prolly just serial
  • [18:32:38] <vlad> but yeah, I have that thing, just minus the webcam
  • [18:33:44] <mj12> how do i gtk support libraries for beagle board ... my opkg install is not working please do help ..
  • [18:34:16] <djlewis> vlad: does it seem strong enough to carry a webcam?
  • [18:34:29] <vlad> djlewis: I think so, depending on the size of the webcam of course
  • [18:35:02] <av500> djlewis: the one with the webcam for sure :-)
  • [18:35:23] <av500> but I guess it has not position sensors at all...
  • [18:35:31] <av500> only feedback is visual
  • [18:35:37] <av500> or damage
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  • [18:38:21] <djlewis> av500: a cam on top the missle launcher would be cool.
  • [18:40:44] <av500> djlewis: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/05/usb-missile-launcher-adopts-webcam-for-geeky-wars-over-msn/
  • [18:43:09] <djlewis> yep, daddy wants new toys :)
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  • [18:47:21] <muriani> I'm looking at new toys
  • [18:47:27] <muriani> but they're of the automobile variety
  • [18:47:47] <av500> like a car? how old style
  • [18:47:58] <muriani> well, two are mid-80s
  • [18:48:02] <muriani> one's early 90s
  • [18:48:12] <djlewis> thats lots of cars.
  • [18:48:22] <muriani> Toyota GTS convertible (AE86), and the other's a Mitsubishi Starion
  • [18:48:39] <muriani> and then a 92 Acura Legend
  • [18:48:58] <muriani> all in excellent shape, all under $3k
  • [18:49:16] <av500> yes, but are they green?
  • [18:49:47] * av500 has heard that green cars are better...
  • [18:49:48] <muriani> I don't care. I want air conditioning.
  • [18:50:28] <muriani> I've been without air conditioning in my car for 4 years, and I've had enough of the Texas heat/humidity while I'm driving.
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  • [18:51:08] <muriani> http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/1305198442.html
  • [18:51:15] <muriani> http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/1290233720.html
  • [18:51:43] <av500> acura looks sux
  • [18:51:43] <muriani> the toyota and acura. No listing for the Starion, it's being sold by a mechanic friend of a friend.
  • [18:51:47] <eFfeM> muriani: move to scotland :-)
  • [18:51:55] <muriani> acura is a nice ride though
  • [18:51:57] <muriani> and a good engine
  • [18:52:11] <av500> eww, white
  • [18:52:16] <Qball> does it have a beagleboard on board?
  • [18:52:29] <muriani> color doesn't bother me. It'll be cooler most of the year due to the white.
  • [18:52:37] <muriani> Qball: it might... eventually :p
  • [18:52:43] <mru> but green is better, right?
  • [18:52:55] <Qball> pink
  • [18:53:04] <muriani> haha
  • [18:53:34] <av500> white is a good primer to paint it green...
  • [18:53:48] <muriani> not dricing a green-colored car
  • [18:53:52] <muriani> *driving
  • [18:54:00] <av500> acure has leather and a WOW 6 CD changer, go fer it!!!
  • [18:54:05] <muriani> bose sound too
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  • [18:54:50] <av500> and it's affordable to fill 'em up?
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  • [18:55:10] <muriani> the acura a little less than the other two
  • [18:55:29] <muriani> V6 engine vs inline 4 on the GTS and Starion
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  • [18:55:52] <nlewycky> do kernel.org 2.6.30.4 (current) kernels work fully on a beagleboard?
  • [18:56:06] <av500> muriani: ok, I changed my mind, get the V6
  • [18:56:10] <nlewycky> or are there still unintegrated changes in linux-omap-2.6?
  • [18:56:14] <muriani> I was looking at a Vigor as well with an inline 5-cylinder engine, but it was so inexpensive that I'd get a motorcycle too
  • [18:56:27] <muriani> av500: the Starion is a turbocharged 2.6L I4
  • [18:56:37] <muriani> it's pretty quick :)
  • [18:56:42] <av500> yeah, but v6 more smoother, no?
  • [18:57:04] <muriani> it's got more torque yeah
  • [18:57:04] <prpplague> koen: ping
  • [18:57:13] <av500> you cant go quick in us anyway (playing out the .DE trump now)
  • [18:57:22] <muriani> lol
  • [18:57:29] <muriani> yeah, can't even in Montana nowadays
  • [18:57:42] <av500> you can reach 55 quick, sure :-)
  • [18:57:56] <muriani> oh naw, 65-75 depending on the highway :)
  • [18:58:10] <muriani> the 55mph speed limit went away here awhile back
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  • [18:58:18] <av500> didnt know u changed to metric ;-)
  • [18:58:21] <mru> the speed limit is irrelevant, what matters is the speed of highway patrol cars
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  • [18:58:26] <muriani> haha
  • [18:58:26] <ds2> "I can't hear you...."
  • [18:58:56] <muriani> av500: 55k/h? holy hell that's slow.
  • [18:59:00] <av500> mru: they can be fast: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/07._Mad_Max_Car_at_Silverton_Hotel,_Silverton,_NSW,_07.07.2007.jpg
  • [18:59:14] <muriani> oh yeah, the patrol cars are pretty quick anyway
  • [18:59:28] <muriani> and the officers know how to drive well.
  • [18:59:33] <ds2> don't they use patrol bikes?
  • [18:59:36] <mru> av500: that's australia
  • [18:59:56] <prpplague> ds2: hey bud
  • [19:00:01] <ds2> hey prpplague
  • [19:00:06] <muriani> the bikes are cruisers, not the most maneuverable and they don't hold a candle to the crotch rockets
  • [19:00:19] <muriani> you pass a cop on one of those going 150mph and they won't even bother
  • [19:00:23] <prpplague> ds2: what's the scoup on you status in CA?
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  • [19:01:19] <ds2> prpplague: donno
  • [19:01:33] <ds2> at this point, a lottery is more predictable :/
  • [19:02:07] <eFfeM> thought australia used patrol kangaroos
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  • [19:02:30] <eFfeM> thought in the us you need to outperform the police heli, not only the patrol car
  • [19:02:58] <av500> eFfeM: my SFO friend tells me he has right mirror pointing to the sky...
  • [19:02:58] <eFfeM> ds2, I saw policemen on patrol bikes in Vegas on the strip
  • [19:03:10] <mru> eFfeM: how is the helicopter going to stop you?
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  • [19:03:25] <eFfeM> av500: that would have been useful on my latest utah trip too
  • [19:03:28] <ds2> eFfeM: are you sure those are real cops? given the location....
  • [19:03:38] <av500> eFfeM: got tagged by the heli?
  • [19:04:03] <eFfeM> mru, dunno, but they always show those nice heli chases on TV
  • [19:04:08] <eFfeM> and no, I was not tagged
  • [19:04:18] <mru> eFfeM: you could become famous!
  • [19:04:25] <eFfeM> (and the cops looked real, it was even during daytime, let me see if I have a pic handy)
  • [19:04:26] <ds2> eFfeM: seen the tv series "Bluethunder"? ;)
  • [19:04:28] <av500> mru: the heli is to sell the footage to TV stations :-)
  • [19:04:37] <eFfeM> av500: ahhhh
  • [19:05:00] <eFfeM> i know 9 years back I was in LA and while watching TV I noticed they were only something like 5-10 blocks away
  • [19:06:19] <eFfeM> no pic handy, sry
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  • [19:07:06] <eFfeM> found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3woBoctt0o
  • [19:07:12] <eFfeM> i remember the yellow shirts
  • [19:07:40] <eFfeM> they were willing to pose with my 11 year olds, but they did not want to grab them in their shirts
  • [19:07:43] <eFfeM> :-(
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  • [19:08:04] <eFfeM> got pics on that trip with the whole family in a cell in alcatraz though
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  • [19:09:54] <mru> you often see cops on bikes here in england
  • [19:10:05] <eFfeM> in nl they are rare
  • [19:11:13] <av500> I saw cops with segways across the street the other day...
  • [19:11:29] <mru> EMP them
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  • [19:11:58] <mru> hey _roger_
  • [19:12:03] <av500> I'd rather have them chase me until the roun out of juice...
  • [19:12:10] <_roger_> hey mru!!
  • [19:12:15] <av500> hey _roger_
  • [19:12:19] <_roger_> hey guys
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  • [19:12:59] <Crofton|work> gm
  • [19:13:02] <cajun-rat> Does anyone know a version of the kernel that is known to work as a EHCI usb host?
  • [19:13:37] <cajun-rat> currently I'm using "Linux beagleboard 2.6.29-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Fri Jul 31 09:38:19 BST 2009 armv7l unknown"
  • [19:13:48] <cajun-rat> which seems to have trouble.
  • [19:13:52] <adj> the one OE provides works ok
  • [19:13:56] <dcordes> cajun-rat, I think the question is not version but configuration.
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  • [19:14:29] <cajun-rat> could well be, is there anything I should be watching out for
  • [19:15:16] <dcordes> cajun-rat, you can hardcode the mode or make it switch automatically iirc
  • [19:15:32] <dcordes> cajun-rat, so if you want usb host only I would recommend to hardcode it
  • [19:15:32] <mru> dcordes: you're thinking of the otg port
  • [19:15:35] <av500> dcordes: EHCI is host only
  • [19:15:39] <nlewycky> the most recent omap patchset is from oct 24, 2008. is that because it's since been merged into mainline?
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  • [19:15:57] <cajun-rat> yeh, sorry not using the OTG port
  • [19:15:57] <dcordes> cajun-rat, nevermind. I was thinking of the otg port
  • [19:16:14] <dcordes> got an old beagle
  • [19:16:35] <cajun-rat> I've just ordered a OTG cable to see if it works better
  • [19:16:47] <dcordes> cajun-rat, so you tried the openemebdded kernel?
  • [19:16:57] <cajun-rat> yes
  • [19:17:30] <dcordes> ehci usb host doesn't work with it?
  • [19:17:36] <cajun-rat> i just pulled the latest openembedded
  • [19:17:45] <cajun-rat> it works to some extent
  • [19:17:50] <cajun-rat> just not stable
  • [19:18:04] <av500> cajun-rat: there is a known issue about EHCI not stable
  • [19:18:09] <dcordes> I see. maybe you can be more specifc?
  • [19:18:11] <av500> fix is being worked on
  • [19:18:49] <ds2> has the EHCI issue been observed on the Overo?
  • [19:19:13] <av500> ds2: no idea, sakoman?
  • [19:19:14] <cajun-rat> sometimes device enumeration gives an error like "device descriptor read/64 error=-110"
  • [19:19:21] <eFfeM> or on any of the other boards (like miniboard, devkit8000 etc)
  • [19:19:37] <av500> its not on our board, this I know...
  • [19:19:52] <ds2> av500: are you using the same PHY as the BB?
  • [19:20:01] <sakoman> av500, ds2: I think I have seen it on occassion
  • [19:20:24] <ds2> sakoman: that is good news, I think
  • [19:20:24] <av500> ds2: the other way round, BB is using our phy :-)
  • [19:20:34] <sakoman> yeah, consistent is good!
  • [19:20:35] <prpplague> sakoman: ping
  • [19:20:40] <sakoman> prpplague: pong
  • [19:21:00] <prpplague> sakoman: zippy is done, you should be getting an email from TCT shortly
  • [19:21:09] <sakoman> oh cool!
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  • [19:21:16] <ds2> zippy? hmmmm
  • [19:21:42] <mj12> hi i get this error No space left on device when i am copying a library file to /lib ...n
  • [19:21:57] <av500> and what does df say?
  • [19:22:00] <prpplague> ds2: beagle expansion board from TCT, second serial port, battery backed RTC, second MMC/SD, and an enc28j60 10baseT
  • [19:22:26] <av500> prpplague: hows the eth connected?
  • [19:22:32] <prpplague> av500: spi
  • [19:22:33] <cajun-rat> The message I get is
  • [19:22:33] <cajun-rat> [ 659.076446] usb 1-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci-omap and address 6
  • [19:22:33] <cajun-rat> [ 674.263946] usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110
  • [19:22:37] <ds2> prpplague: what's the foot print? a business card or smaller?
  • [19:22:48] <mru> prpplague: beagle c3 has space for rtc battery
  • [19:22:48] <prpplague> ds2: same size as the beagle
  • [19:22:48] <mj12> df -ah gives me
  • [19:22:51] <mj12> rootfs 15.5M 15.5M 0 100% / /dev/root 15.5M 15.5M 0 100% / proc 0 0 0 0% /proc sysfs 0 0 0 0% /sys none 116.8M 80.0k 116.8M 0% /dev devpts 0
  • [19:22:58] <cajun-rat> (my application talks to the usb with libusb1)
  • [19:22:59] <ds2> that is huge
  • [19:23:01] <av500> mj12: use pastebin!
  • [19:23:24] <prpplague> mru: yea, this board was started before the revC stuff was out
  • [19:23:26] <nlewycky> ah, 2.6.29-oer* kernels still have known issues with the usb port?
  • [19:23:32] <av500> mj12: I read 100% there somewhere...
  • [19:23:35] <nlewycky> can anyone elaborate on what's known about the problem so far?
  • [19:23:47] <ds2> guess I am on my own again with my beagleboard tablet :(
  • [19:23:47] <av500> nlewycky: not much
  • [19:23:55] <ds2> wish there was off the shelf components
  • [19:24:09] <av500> ds2: whatyou need?
  • [19:24:15] <prpplague> ds2: actually that was what i chatting with you about
  • [19:24:29] <mj12> av500 : yes that was in roottfs
  • [19:24:36] <ds2> av500: an interface board that is tiny.... Overo motherboard sized :)
  • [19:24:45] <nlewycky> av500: okay. i can trigger the failure *very very easily*. is there any need for additional logs or debug dumps?
  • [19:24:57] <prpplague> ds2: the prototype i've done is slightly larger than a PSP
  • [19:25:03] <av500> nlewycky: no
  • [19:25:14] <mj12> av500 : and /dev/root/ also gives me 100% usage
  • [19:25:26] <ds2> larger then a PSP? that is relatively large... how thick?
  • [19:25:34] <mj12> I have a 4 GB SD card running Angstrom linux latest image ..
  • [19:25:37] <nlewycky> okay. i'll see if i can get any traction debugging it myself.
  • [19:25:41] <av500> so, why do you ask about no free space?
  • [19:26:23] <prpplague> ds2: realtively large? you couldn't fit a beagle inside a PSP
  • [19:26:37] <prpplague> ds2: about 2" thick
  • [19:27:06] <ds2> prpplague: unless I am mistaken, my beagle mid thing is about the size of the PSP but thicker and that's because I was in a hurry with the machining
  • [19:27:18] <ds2> 2?! holy crap
  • [19:27:27] <prpplague> ??
  • [19:27:36] <mj12> av500 : i tried a simple crosscompiled program of Helloworld using codesourcery .... but it gives me the error that libstdc++.so was not found in /lib ...
  • [19:27:45] <adj> mj12: you seem to have 15.5M rootfs. Why so small on a 4 GB card?
  • [19:28:37] <ds2> I am at 1.125" thickness solely because - 1. I am using textured 0.25 stock and 2. I wanted to absorb setup errors so my case is about 0.125 thick... making it 1 inch overall with the same internal volume is a matter of doing proper machining
  • [19:28:47] <koen> prpplague: howdy!
  • [19:28:53] <ds2> prpplague: what is taking up the 2 inches?
  • [19:28:54] <mj12> adj : can you tell me how to increase this partition size ?.. i followed elinux-begginer for partiotioning of SD card ..
  • [19:29:10] <av500> mj12: well, then make the root partiton larger
  • [19:29:16] <koen> prpplague: It seems I'll be in TX in late september early october
  • [19:29:33] <prpplague> koen: hey zippy is done, you should be getting an email from TCT shortly
  • [19:29:33] <Crofton|work> has anyone checked to see if gcc 4.4.1 is any better at producing NEON code?
  • [19:29:36] <prpplague> koen: cool
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  • [19:29:39] <cajun-rat> here's the output of dmesg failing to connect to a usb device http://pastebin.com/f33f6ee5d
  • [19:29:54] <prpplague> ds2: mostly the proto area for custom dev
  • [19:29:55] <mru> Crofton|work: gcc 4.4.1 sucks
  • [19:30:00] <av500> koen: give an official statement on EHCI issues...
  • [19:30:04] <mj12> av500: i have two partitons on the SD card one is FAT partiton of 380 MB and the Rest the Angstrom tar.gz partition
  • [19:30:05] <koen> prpplague: awesome
  • [19:30:08] <ds2> prpplague: Ohhhhhhh okay
  • [19:30:21] <av500> Crofton|work: read: gcc *.*.* sucks
  • [19:30:23] * prpplague checks the actual measurements
  • [19:30:30] <Crofton|work> let me rephrase, does it genereate better NEON than say 4.3.1 or os
  • [19:30:31] <av500> prpplague: pics!
  • [19:30:38] <koen> av500: we are working on a solution, people reading the linux omap ml have a hint at the directions we're looking at
  • [19:30:47] <mru> don't know about neon, but normal code is worse than 4.3.3
  • [19:30:49] <ssocco> hi all, just upgraded to a bb revc3, but saveenv does not persist var in flash, the same env come back after boot. ANY IDEAS?
  • [19:30:50] <ds2> 2" high and slightly bigger then a PSP footprint puts near the size of a standard brick
  • [19:30:59] * Crofton|work grumbles
  • [19:31:04] <mru> csl 2009q1 seems to be the best gcc at the moment
  • [19:31:06] <av500> ds2: thats almost a cube :-)
  • [19:31:18] <Crofton|work> any good at NEON?
  • [19:31:22] <prpplague> av500: not authorized to post pics
  • [19:31:23] <ds2> koen: have you been recruited to be Gerald's sw lacky?
  • [19:31:31] <mru> except for floating point, there 2007q3 is better
  • [19:31:38] <prpplague> ds: 6.8 x 3.25 x 1.8
  • [19:31:40] <av500> ds2: not only Geralds... ;)
  • [19:31:43] <prpplague> ds2: 6.8 x 3.25 x 1.8
  • [19:31:46] <koen> ds2: I volunteered :)
  • [19:31:59] <ds2> prpplague: IGES, STEP, or STL models are acceptable ;) j/k
  • [19:32:11] <av500> prpplague: :-(
  • [19:32:15] <mru> Crofton|work: the only neon I've seen gcc 4.4 produce was 100x slower than non-neon
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  • [19:32:18] <prpplague> ds2: ?? for machining?
  • [19:32:28] <Crofton|work> how does it manage that .....
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  • [19:32:35] <mru> vmov
  • [19:32:42] <koen> Crofton|work: 99 times more load and stores
  • [19:32:42] <ds2> prpplague: no... just a wise ass comment about: <prpplague> av500: not authorized to post pics
  • [19:32:52] <prpplague> ds2: ahh
  • [19:33:01] <ds2> prpplague: none of them are pictures ;)
  • [19:33:32] <mru> Crofton|work: we've disabled the gcc vectoriser in ffmpeg
  • [19:33:39] <mru> it broke too much
  • [19:33:40] <ds2> prpplague: how thick is the case walls?
  • [19:33:55] <prpplague> ds2: i do not know, i'd have to ask the ME
  • [19:34:01] <av500> prpplague: but you are building an enclosure for a BB? right?
  • [19:34:05] <koen> prpplague: if I'm going to be in the DFW (as opposed to houston) area I could try bringing some beer to you :)
  • [19:34:17] <av500> koen: good luck
  • [19:34:21] <prpplague> av500: considering it
  • [19:34:21] * Crofton|work grumbles about getting Si without good compilers
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  • [19:34:36] <av500> Crofton|work: the emperor has no clothes....
  • [19:34:43] <Crofton|work> ravishi, gm
  • [19:34:48] * ds2 throws a big cone of pure Si at Crofton
  • [19:34:58] <koen> Crofton|work: sign up for the simulator program :)
  • [19:35:03] <mru> Crofton|work: hire me ;-)
  • [19:35:10] <Crofton|work> simulators are for silly people
  • [19:35:15] <ds2> prpplague: those dimension seem a bit big
  • [19:35:15] <prpplague> koen: hehe, thanks but unlike barbados, the DFW are has a much better selection of imports, hehe, save the room in your suit case for something else, hehe
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  • [19:35:30] <koen> prpplague: :)
  • [19:35:32] <prpplague> ds: they are almost the same as yours
  • [19:35:40] <prpplague> ds2: they are almost the same as yours
  • [19:35:45] <ds2> let me get my ruler
  • [19:35:55] <prpplague> ds2: big difference for ours is we include a battery
  • [19:36:15] <av500> prpplague: wouldnt that end up asa pandora?
  • [19:36:50] <ravishi> whats up crofton
  • [19:36:58] <Crofton|work> not much
  • [19:37:03] <prpplague> av500: yea similiar, but the pandora is less hardware hackable. i.e. the pandors doesn't have a prototype thru hole grid
  • [19:37:13] <ds2> prpplague: 6.187x3.187x1.187
  • [19:37:50] <prpplague> ds2: yea the extra space is for the battery and related power/charging
  • [19:38:04] <ds2> the there is an extra 0.625 on all sides to accomodate prototyping issuues
  • [19:38:20] <Crofton|work> did you look at the dsp stuff any more
  • [19:38:28] <ds2> prpplague: I have battery charging...?????????I just don't install it when I am carrying it around
  • [19:38:45] <prpplague> ds2: what kind of batteries?
  • [19:39:13] <ds2> prpplague: a NOS Palm V Li Ion battery
  • [19:39:23] <ds2> think about 1000mAH, IIRC
  • [19:39:30] <prpplague> ds2: ahh
  • [19:39:38] <ds2> are you using round cells?
  • [19:40:15] <prpplague> ds2: i'm using the 3.7V 5200mAH battery from the M8050
  • [19:40:29] <ds2> ohhhhh heheh
  • [19:40:41] <ds2> you don't want to fool with power management I see ;)
  • [19:41:38] <prpplague> ds2: no, i just know about the M8050 battery, and it has plenty of juice
  • [19:42:05] <ds2> indeed... 5.2AH
  • [19:42:57] <ravishi> not so much. i looked at the ccflags in the makefile but it's above my head on what needs to be changed
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  • [19:43:38] <Crofton|work> _roger_, ping
  • [19:44:03] <_roger_> ping
  • [19:44:27] <ravishi> hi Roger
  • [19:44:27] <Crofton|work> did you see that ravishi combined the build system from the L137 example and the message example from dsplink?
  • [19:44:52] <_roger_> nope - but _koen_ mentioned it to me. Can you send me a copy so I can take a look?
  • [19:45:26] <mj12> hi i have a rootfs of only 15 MB ... How do i increase the rootfs space ... i have tmpfs of 116.8 MB ...
  • [19:45:28] <_roger_> hey ravishi - nice work!
  • [19:45:39] <av500> mj12: repartition
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  • [19:45:49] <ravishi> i have it hosted at http://ravishi.com/messageSA.tar.gz
  • [19:46:07] * av500 realizes that food source closes in 15min...
  • [19:46:10] <Crofton|work> when I make some progress on this driver I'm going to look at it
  • [19:46:28] <Crofton|work> I'd like to see if I can convert it to autofoo
  • [19:46:53] * av500 hears autofoo and runs
  • [19:47:02] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [19:47:06] <_roger_> ravishi - thx
  • [19:47:16] <av500> Crofton|work: make it also depend on glib
  • [19:47:23] <Crofton|work> one way to solve the cflag selection issue
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  • [19:47:29] <Crofton|work> which glib?
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  • [19:47:44] <av500> use gstrdup
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  • [19:47:56] <Crofton|work> hmm
  • [19:48:13] <cajun-rat> mj12: I used the instructions at http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/LinuxBootDiskFormat to make a bootable sd card
  • [19:48:15] <ravishi> I could do a similar tar for each sample application. they would all have a similar makefile except the compiler symbol defs would be changed
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  • [19:48:38] <Crofton|work> lets see if we can work on themakefile first
  • [19:49:08] <Crofton|work> do you guys mind if I through this in my public svn?
  • [19:49:09] <ravishi> yeah, thats what i was thinking. otherwise they would all have the same problems
  • [19:49:13] <Crofton|work> right
  • [19:49:54] <Crofton|work> I would suggest creating something similar that uses the dsplib to do some real processing on the dsp
  • [19:50:12] <Crofton|work> so you through some data to the dsp, do something useful, and pass it back
  • [19:50:45] <ravishi> i could try and do that. i only have two days left in the office this summer so it may be pushed back until September
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  • [19:50:57] <Crofton|work> bummer
  • [19:50:59] <Crofton|work> slacker
  • [19:51:10] <Crofton|work> vacation?
  • [19:51:21] <ravishi> lol yeah gotta do something before school starts
  • [19:51:23] <Crofton|work> heh
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  • [19:52:12] <ravishi> see, i have a dsp application that calls on a dsplib function, but that application is based on loop
  • [19:52:40] * _av500_ at food place, paydays, twinkies anybody?
  • [19:53:08] <ravishi> loop won't build in the oe version without reconfiguring it which will require copying over new dsplink modules and using the lpm modules
  • [19:53:25] <Crofton|work> hmm
  • [19:53:31] <Crofton|work> what's loop?
  • [19:53:38] <_roger_> loop uses CHNL
  • [19:53:40] <ravishi> i'm not sure why the configure was chosen as it is
  • [19:53:47] <_roger_> we don'y configure loop in OE dsplink
  • [19:53:59] <_roger_> /loop/CHNL/
  • [19:54:09] <ravishi> right, CHNL is disabled
  • [19:54:10] <Crofton|work> why not?
  • [19:54:18] <_roger_> we could
  • [19:54:45] <_av500_> not used in ce iguess...
  • [19:54:49] <_roger_> codec engine doesn't use it, some performance penalty, code size
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  • [19:55:24] <ravishi> i'm sure the dsplib function i use could be ported to a sample application that does build such as message but i may not have time to work it out
  • [19:55:24] <_roger_> probably we should enable though..
  • [19:55:57] <_roger_> ravishi, send me your app before you head out and I'll try to merge it while you are away
  • [19:56:02] <Crofton|work> we've certainly got more pieces to work with now
  • [19:56:14] <Crofton|work> _roger_, he posted a link to a taball
  • [19:56:29] <_roger_> yep, does that contain the dsplib app too?
  • [19:56:33] <ravishi> if we did enable it, would that be something the user does after building ce or would it be a new version of codec engine that preconfigure dsplink to use CHNL's
  • [19:56:39] <prpplague> anyone else want to comment on what type of case they'd be interested in for the beagle?
  • [19:57:00] <ravishi> no, that tar doesn't contain any references to dsplib
  • [19:57:05] * mru wants beaglecube
  • [19:57:06] <_av500_> prpplague: none :)
  • [19:57:07] <ravishi> i'll post the other application
  • [19:57:12] <Crofton|work> thanks
  • [19:57:40] * _av500_ pizza then
  • [19:57:44] <ds2> mru: with the surface decorated so it looks like there is an actual beagle stuffed inside a cube? ;)
  • [19:57:45] <Crofton|work> ravishi, before you go, put something on the list with the tarball addresses
  • [19:57:50] <prpplague> _av500_: ??
  • [19:57:51] <_roger_> ravishi - the OE recipe for dsplink would need to configure CHNL, then CE would be built against it
  • [19:59:17] <_roger_> (there's a perl script called in the configure part of the OE recipe for dsplink where you'd add the CHNL config)
  • [19:59:19] <ravishi> ok crofton
  • [19:59:20] <prpplague> koen: what about you? you've used the nokia stuff alot, what kind of MID case would you want for the beagle?
  • [19:59:44] <_av500_> prpplague: i got pizza ;)
  • [20:00:15] <ravishi> roger: yeah, the oe recipe must be already running that perl script with the option to disable CHNL.
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  • [20:02:20] <ravishi> i also noticed that cache was disabled since you can run different dsp apps without resetting the processor.
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  • [20:03:14] <prpplague> _av500_: i meant about no comments on the case
  • [20:03:34] <_roger_> ravishi - yes it does disable it
  • [20:03:55] <av500> prpplague: no, i need no case for an wvm type of device.. :-)
  • [20:03:59] <av500> evm
  • [20:04:00] <Crofton> ravishi, are you going to keep working on this stuff in the fall?
  • [20:04:12] <prpplague> av500: ahh
  • [20:04:33] <av500> ravishi: thanks to for the perl, before that it was something like make menuconfig without the fun... :-)
  • [20:04:40] <av500> thanks to ti...
  • [20:05:13] <av500> prpplague: I have 3, so I'd stack them via the corner holes...
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  • [20:05:32] <prpplague> av500: ahh
  • [20:05:45] <ravishi> yeah, for a few hours a week. i think our plan is to try and mesh the ML403, the beagleboard, and Dr. Anderson's and your RF frontend
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  • [20:06:03] <ravishi> av500: i can only imagine
  • [20:06:41] <av500> of course you could generate the config file by hand... :-)
  • [20:06:43] <Crofton> heh
  • [20:07:07] <Beagle6> Hello everyone, I have just got my EBVBeagle and have a few question...
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  • [20:07:17] <Crofton> ravishi, http://ossie.wireless.vt.edu/trac/wiki/EmbeddedSDR :)
  • [20:07:20] <Crofton> with more fpga
  • [20:08:16] <Crofton> byte order fun :)
  • [20:08:34] <av500> Crofton: they still sell omap5912 starter kits?
  • [20:08:43] <Crofton> I think so
  • [20:08:44] <Beagle6> I just wanted to compile a HelloWorld application but i couldnt make it work yet...
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  • [20:08:50] <Crofton> I have one, but the flash is flaky
  • [20:08:53] <Beagle6> Anyone could help about it???
  • [20:09:29] <Crofton> If anyone wants to get rid of an OSK, I'm looking for one .....
  • [20:10:10] <Crofton> av500, note the picture is a couple of years old
  • [20:10:32] <av500> Crofton: so is me working with the 5912 :-)
  • [20:10:50] <Beagle6> Can ANYONE please suggest a compiler for Angstrom in Windows environment?????
  • [20:11:01] <Crofton> yeah
  • [20:11:06] <muriani> a virtual machine running Linux?
  • [20:11:10] * muriani ducks
  • [20:11:21] <Qball> sounds like solid advice
  • [20:11:28] <av500> ack
  • [20:11:28] <Beagle6> Not actually
  • [20:11:38] <ravishi> looks like your work will eventually be realized and recognized
  • [20:11:50] <Beagle6> I just need a compiler in Windows...
  • [20:11:50] <Crofton> I do not know of any windows hosted cross compilers
  • [20:12:09] <mru> I've seen some
  • [20:12:10] <ravishi> shereef says he applying a lot of what you did here
  • [20:12:13] <mru> usually painful
  • [20:12:21] <Crofton> heh
  • [20:12:31] <mru> many of them need cygwin anyway
  • [20:12:37] <vlad> no point; you're essentially going to recreate a linux vm anyway
  • [20:12:38] <Beagle6> OK. I am not quite experienced in Linux, can you suggest a compiler in Linux environment?
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  • [20:12:45] <vlad> you'll just be doing it painfully
  • [20:12:46] <vlad> instead of just installing ubuntu or something
  • [20:12:50] <Crofton> some guy was working on canadian cross generation in OE
  • [20:13:18] <Crofton> ravishi, that photo is still the pinacle of cool stuff
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  • [20:14:06] <Beagle6> Yeah, I am downloading Ubuntu right now and install it. I also need a compiler...
  • [20:14:29] <Crofton> Beagle6, install task-native-sdk on the beagle?
  • [20:14:38] <mru> Beagle6: OE will take care of that
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  • [20:15:09] <Beagle6> task-native-sdk, I have just heard about that.
  • [20:15:15] <Beagle6> I will have a look at that...
  • [20:15:25] <Crofton> ravishi, http://www.opensdr.com/node/7
  • [20:15:36] <Crofton> that lets you compile on the beagle
  • [20:15:45] <Crofton> I use it for simple test programs
  • [20:16:15] <Qball> if you create a virtualmachine with linux to compile OE, make it large enough :D
  • [20:16:25] <Beagle6> Actually I would prefer complinig in my PC than copy it to the flash of Beagle...
  • [20:16:27] <mj12> hi i followed the same procedure as in http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners for partitioning ... i have boot partition with 340 MB and rest 3.6 GB for ANGSTROM ... but the rootfs is only 15 MB ... i am not able to add any more data and libraries ..
  • [20:16:38] <prpplague> anyone else be interested in a small MID style case that would be customizable?
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  • [20:18:54] <muriani> mj12: if you're just wanting to use angstrom, I might suggest http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/
  • [20:19:02] <av500> mj12: didnt you say that your root is 3.6GB?
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  • [20:20:51] <av500> prpplague: for me I dont see the point
  • [20:20:52] <djlewis> mj12: should be fine. I use 4GB sd and 100MB boot with remaining for fs ( Angstrom).
  • [20:21:06] <muriani> Similar here
  • [20:21:09] <ravishi> Crofton: shereef and srujan have been trying to put on ossie/omniORB/boost on the beagle. they are working mostly with the oe recipes but they are having some issues. i'll forward that link to them
  • [20:21:10] <av500> it's either very small, so I can pocket it and carry with me, or its huge on my desk
  • [20:21:37] <av500> a 2" high PSP clone is neither...
  • [20:22:09] <Crofton> doh
  • [20:22:29] <Crofton> Xilinx tools don't load Altera project files
  • [20:22:36] <Crofton> heh
  • [20:22:42] <Crofton> they may be broken
  • [20:22:52] <Crofton> I haven't built them in a while
  • [20:22:59] <Crofton> I need an error message to look at
  • [20:23:00] <mru> _roger_: about those variable-length arrays, do you think the compiler could at least be made to abort rather than miscompile?
  • [20:23:07] <av500> prpplague: but then I have a 13mm thick omap3 bases unit here, so I dont count...
  • [20:23:30] <Crofton> mru, but where would the fun be in that
  • [20:23:40] <prpplague> av500: i don't either, but it seems to be an item people are asking for
  • [20:23:40] <mru> less core dumps
  • [20:23:54] <mru> core dumps with trashed stacks, the best kind
  • [20:24:02] <Crofton> yummy
  • [20:25:03] <av500> prpplague: asking for != willing to buy it
  • [20:25:22] <av500> mru: without a trashed stack, where is the fun? :-P
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  • [20:25:38] <mru> I've had the fun now
  • [20:25:39] * av500 yum pizza
  • [20:25:48] <av500> I see :)
  • [20:25:50] <prpplague> av500: indeed, let me rephrase that, "we are getting requests on a daily basis to purcase accessory boards and cases for the beagle"
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  • [20:26:29] <_roger_> mru - I'm working on that
  • [20:26:39] <_roger_> hoping we can at least detect the issue
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  • [20:26:55] <av500> _roger_: would the compiler team try it on ffmpeg themselves?
  • [20:26:58] <mru> it complains without --gcc
  • [20:27:22] <av500> mru: then you have to compile each file twice...
  • [20:27:33] <Crofton> sounds like libtool
  • [20:27:45] <mru> but without --gcc it fails on some other things
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  • [20:28:05] <mru> --gcc shorthand for --almost-c99
  • [20:28:18] <mru> and some useful gcc extensions
  • [20:29:25] <mj12> av500 : as in the tutorial i made the partition of extn3 fs as the remaining space ie /dev/sdc2 as 3.6 GB copied Angstrom image and untared it there .. angstrom loads without any problem ..
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  • [20:31:01] <av500> mj12: so?
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  • [20:36:20] <mj12> av500 : but when i run df-ah i get rootfs as 15 MB only and 100% used ... am i missing something here ?...
  • [20:38:06] <djlewis> mj12: your mmcblkxxx are your media partitions
  • [20:39:09] <djlewis> if that is what you are asking....
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  • [20:40:04] <mj12> yes there are two mmcblk0p1 and mmcblk0p2 ...
  • [20:40:57] <Crofton> ok
  • [20:41:03] <Crofton> my head is organized
  • [20:41:10] <mru> wow
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  • [20:41:14] <Crofton> tomorrow, coding binge
  • [20:45:43] <djlewis> mj12: so did you/we answer your question?
  • [20:46:19] <mj12> i get this error when is run a simple HelloWorld application cross compiled using code sourcery ... error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or diy
  • [20:46:37] <Crofton|work> look in /lib
  • [20:46:49] <Crofton|work> most likely it is not installed in the image
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  • [20:47:28] <Crofton|work> or link statically
  • [20:47:45] <mj12> it is not there ... i want to copy it from the codesourcery lib directory ... to the /lib but it says no space on rootfs ..
  • [20:49:25] <av500> mj12: could you finally pastebin your df -h?
  • [20:50:44] <mj12> no i was not able to can u give me a link regarding this ..
  • [20:53:31] <adj> link? to pastebin? like pastebin.com?
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  • [20:56:11] <mj12> hi i have pastebin the df -h ....
  • [20:57:56] <adj> now it's your turn to provide us a link
  • [20:58:07] <Qball> http://wwww.alink.com
  • [20:58:42] <mj12> http://pastebin.com/m1bd831e4
  • [21:01:46] <adj> mj12: what does your kernel command line look like? show the result of 'cat /proc/cmdline'
  • [21:02:46] <mj12> i also tried by providing a soft link to the lib file libgcc_s.so.1 in mmcblk0p2 from /lib but got the same error
  • [21:02:57] <mj12> caat /proc/cmdline gives me
  • [21:02:58] <mj12> console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=32768 initrd=0x81600000,32M
  • [21:03:19] <adj> mj12: well, there is your error. root= is not correct
  • [21:03:44] <av500> root in a ramdisk, why not :-)
  • [21:03:55] <adj> and you propably don't want to use ramdisk at all
  • [21:04:03] <mj12> setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait' this is the command i used as in the tutorial ..
  • [21:04:49] <adj> mj12: remembered to do 'saveenv' after setting bootargs?
  • [21:04:56] <mj12> ok thanks ... so how to change it now ..
  • [21:05:09] <adj> just like in the tutorial
  • [21:05:12] <mj12> yes i have done that ...
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  • [21:06:04] <mj12> i will try that again and get back .. thanks ...
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  • [21:10:33] <mj12> I am getting the same stuff again ... u can check ... http://pastebin.com/m6c32a5b9
  • [21:11:02] <ds2> hmmm
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  • [21:13:41] <adj> mj12: where did you get that u-boot.bin?
  • [21:14:18] <mj12> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [21:14:37] <adj> hmm
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  • [21:18:26] <adj> mj12: re-download http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/u-boot.bin and place it on your mmc replacing the old u-boot.bin
  • [21:19:01] <adj> "U-Boot 2009.01-dirty (Feb 19 2009 - 12:23:21)" is _not_ the one at that address
  • [21:19:14] <adj> it should print "U-Boot 2009.06-rc2 (Jun 05 2009 - 10:19:13"
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  • [21:21:47] <mj12> thanks... will do that ...
  • [21:32:35] <ravishi> roger & crofton: i posted the loop application that uses DSPLIB functions to the ossie wiki. I also wrote up some information on what they are and how to use them
  • [21:32:45] <ravishi> http://ossie.wireless.vt.edu/trac/wiki/BeagleBoard#SimpleBuildSystemforDSPLink
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  • [21:34:07] <Crofton|work> ravishi, thanks
  • [21:35:43] <ravishi> also, linked them on the wiki
  • [21:35:58] <ravishi> i mean the beagle list
  • [21:36:09] <Crofton|work> awesome
  • [21:36:30] <Crofton|work> hopefully some other people start poking at it
  • [21:37:40] <ravishi> yeah, i wish i had some more time to polish out the little issues left
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  • [21:44:37] <Crofton> ravishi, release early
  • [21:47:08] <mj12> hi adj ,av500,ds2 thanks for all the help ... successfully booted angstrom .. /dev/root/ free space 2.7 GB :)
  • [21:47:46] <Crofton> ravishi, fail faster, fail forward
  • [21:49:18] <djlewis> mj12: interesting problem.
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  • [21:55:33] <Crofton|work> khilman, wb
  • [21:55:59] <khilman> Crofton|work: thx
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  • [21:56:29] <mj12> djlewis : lol yes ... Thts the reason opkg install was not working also ...
  • [21:56:36] <Crofton|work> when you get a chance, did you see my email to the omap list about pinmuxing?
  • [21:56:44] <Crofton|work> no one seems to care ...
  • [21:58:01] <khilman> Crofton|work: yeah, saw it, but still catching up on other stuff. Tony's been on vacation too...
  • [21:58:09] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [21:58:17] <Crofton|work> when you get a chance
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  • [21:59:41] <ds2> Crofton|work: did you post something more then just those stuff for the SPI stuff?
  • [21:59:52] <Crofton|work> no
  • [21:59:59] <Crofton|work> I need some feedback
  • [22:01:16] <ds2> oh
  • [22:01:43] <jkridner|work> anybody looked at updating this recently: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116327846978927099579.000458174af00d36e22dc&ll=42.293564,-99.140625&spn=49.574235,79.013672&z=4
  • [22:02:14] <Crofton> I haven't moved :)
  • [22:04:03] <ds2> are you sure? the earth is constantly moving
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  • [22:09:09] * khilman adds self to map
  • [22:09:38] <khilman> and is looking for any other beagle hackers in the seattle area
  • [22:10:11] <ds2> hey khilman
  • [22:10:43] <khilman> ds2: hey
  • [22:12:42] <khilman> anyone know who E.L.F from that map is?
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  • [22:16:25] <bkero> jkridner|work: diybio locations? :)
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  • [22:20:23] <djlewis> cool map, but I dont understand how to add myself.
  • [22:21:46] <mru> djlewis: check the comments
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  • [22:34:45] <jkridner|work> it looks like the map creator last edited E.L.F's entry.
  • [22:35:10] <jkridner|work> it was also the first entry, so maybe they are the same person.
  • [22:37:22] <ds2> is a google login required to add an entry?
  • [22:37:37] <khilman> saw that, but don't see any more about V. Elishah
  • [22:37:50] <khilman> ds2: yes
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  • [22:41:01] <ds2> to do a 7" LCD or to not do one....
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  • [22:44:25] <jkridner|work> khilman: looked through the Beagle group mailing list archive to find V. Elishah's original post. sent you his e-mail address.
  • [22:44:42] <jkridner|work> He signed it E.L.F., so I'm guessing they are the same person. :)
  • [22:44:51] <khilman> jkridner|work: thx
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  • [22:50:10] <jkridner|work> the original thread: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/ca2fbeb6f98c644d/947829c35bb36342?#947829c35bb36342
  • [22:51:15] * jkridner|work is proud to remember this thread existed.
  • [22:51:36] <Qball> aint google great
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  • [22:52:04] <oldman> Hello!
  • [22:52:48] <oldman> is anyone here? I have a question about the beagle board.
  • [22:53:10] <oldman> Damn I'll just ask. does anyone know when it'll come with a NIC onboard? maybe dual-NIC's?
  • [22:54:21] <jkridner|work> unlike to happen on Beagle itself.
  • [22:54:35] <oldman> do you know why?
  • [22:54:37] <jkridner|work> there are "clones" with ICs added.
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  • [22:55:31] <jkridner|work> because the goal of beagle is to keep production costs as low as possible in low volumes to provide a bare-bones reference, not to compete with other single-board computer manufacturers, per se.
  • [22:55:53] <jkridner|work> the simple answer is, because there are plenty of USB-to-Ethernet adapters that work.
  • [22:56:20] <jkridner|work> I understand that isn't ideal from a foot-print perspective or total-cost perspective, but it makes the entry cost as low as possible.
  • [22:56:23] <Qball> I wouldn't use the beagleboard in anything "productio like"
  • [22:56:41] <oldman> Hm
  • [22:56:43] <jkridner|work> it isn't intended for anything "production like".
  • [22:56:48] <Qball> exactly
  • [22:56:51] <jkridner|work> it is intended for software development.
  • [22:57:09] <ds2> just tack a ethernet on the expansion header
  • [22:57:39] <jkridner|work> TinCanTools is close to releasing a board with Ethernet on the expansion header, I believe.
  • [22:58:09] <oldman> Yes. I saw the rs232 pinout and wondered about doing the same for the ethernet
  • [22:58:12] <oldman> but it's not a big issue
  • [22:58:32] <ds2> easy enough to build a voltage converter + the eval module from SFE
  • [22:58:40] <jkridner|work> SFE?
  • [22:58:43] <oldman> someone intruduced me to this a few weeks back and really like the idea (the name is catchy too) :D
  • [22:58:47] <ds2> the voltage converters are the only part that is not 0.1 pitched
  • [22:58:52] <ds2> SFE == Spark Fun Electronics
  • [22:58:55] <jkridner|work> ah.
  • [23:00:20] <jkridner|work> the SPI Ethernet project on http://beagleboard.org/project doesn't provide enough information to get started without contacting the IC supplier. :(
  • [23:00:39] * jkridner|work thinks about harassing the individual more about that.
  • [23:00:43] <ds2> hehe
  • [23:00:59] <ds2> that and more project status reports ;)
  • [23:01:16] <jkridner|work> :)
  • [23:01:27] <jkridner|work> that would be nice.
  • [23:01:38] <jkridner|work> need a cron job for it.
  • [23:02:46] <oldman> I haven't purchased, if it isn't blatently obvious already. I was wondering, from an end user perspective how does it "feel" ?
  • [23:03:20] <oldman> or is this not even something you can have at home for development and maybe stick someone in front of it to be used on the rare occasion?
  • [23:03:23] * djlewis is heading home, later...
  • [23:03:28] * ds2 grumbles about backlight drive requirements @%@#%@$@#
  • [23:04:21] <jkridner|work> having one of those special computing cases makes it a little easier to have sitting around the house without worrying about it as much...
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  • [23:04:45] <ds2> depends on how hard you are on cases
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  • [23:04:53] <jkridner|work> I find that if you don't leave it hooked up, that the cables seem to get scattered to the far ends of the Earth.
  • [23:05:51] <ds2> sigh... either 3 channels or an 80V boost
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  • [23:07:36] <jkridner|work> I've found that some portable USB HDD enclosure cases work really nice for transporting BeagleBoards.
  • [23:08:42] <ds2> heh, indeed
  • [23:08:57] <ds2> or just spend a few hours in the company machine shop ;)
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  • [23:10:35] * jkridner|work believes custom carrying cases for Beagles + cables are only a matter of time.
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  • [23:13:01] <ds2> what cables do you have in mind?
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  • [23:16:27] <jkridner|work> serial, usb, power.
  • [23:16:45] <jkridner|work> also, a hub and a pico projector and its cables.
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