• [00:04:13] <ds2> bkero: I want an independant confirmation
  • [00:04:56] <sakoman> ds2: you don't trust the supplier's word?
  • [00:08:25] <djlewis> sakoman: I dont know which to try first, too many choices..
  • [00:09:03] <djlewis> I supose 2.6.30 1st
  • [00:09:26] <sakoman> djlewis: you should be able to just replace the uImage on the SD you made last night
  • [00:09:58] <ds2> sakoman: If I trusted all the suppliers around here's word....
  • [00:10:03] <sakoman> then if that works you could try: http://www.sakoman.com/feeds/omap3/glibc/images/experimental/
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  • [00:10:40] <djlewis> I already have that one coming down. So I will have to replace uImage from 06232009 version then?
  • [00:10:47] <sakoman> ds2: yeah, but their announcement puts things above the level of a fan site rumor
  • [00:11:09] <ds2> marginally
  • [00:11:28] <ds2> sometimes fan site rumors are more accurate, esp. if it is bad news
  • [00:11:36] <sakoman> djlewis: the experimental image is for entertainment and time wasting only
  • [00:11:55] <ds2> anything else missing from the image thesedays? ;)
  • [00:11:56] <ds2> j/k
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  • [00:12:00] <djlewis> I realise that, so I cant be too critical on ya huh? ')
  • [00:12:24] <sakoman> djlewis: well, it is way worse than my other images
  • [00:12:29] <djlewis> 2.6.30 is fin untarr'ing
  • [00:13:30] <sakoman> djlewis: have to leave now for a few hours, so you are on your own :-)
  • [00:13:40] <sakoman> good luck!
  • [00:13:41] <djlewis> ok, thanks..
  • [00:13:43] <sakoman> backlater
  • [00:14:52] <sakoman> djlewis: ah, before I forget. if you try the gnome image the login is user root, password root
  • [00:15:24] <djlewis> ok
  • [00:15:26] <sakoman> I've got an even better version baking right now
  • [00:15:28] <ds2> sakoman: you don't want us telling him how to edit /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd? :D
  • [00:15:41] <sakoman> :-)
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  • [00:15:58] <sakoman> ok, really gone now
  • [00:16:07] <djlewis> i learned hot to edit /etc/passwd in early 90's
  • [00:16:19] <djlewis> how
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  • [00:19:46] <djlewis> pwrup BB, booting 2.6.30 with good colors...
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  • [00:21:03] <djlewis> I need more SDHC cards
  • [00:22:12] <djlewis> gonna feed me and the pups, brb...
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  • [01:15:28] <bobkatzz> anyone worked with USB/serial adapters on BB?
  • [01:16:17] <bobkatzz> I'm using the USB port for the hub/etherent and the OTG for power right now
  • [01:16:31] <bobkatzz> s/eterent/ethernet
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  • [01:24:07] <ds2> USB/serial? which end is connected to which?
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  • [01:30:25] <djlewis> bobkatzz: I think the pl-2303 drivers are built in
  • [01:30:44] <djlewis> plug one in and see what comes up..
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  • [01:43:31] <djlewis> well, those parts that work, I have under my control :P
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  • [01:45:43] <djlewis> ps aux | grep xterm
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  • [02:01:35] <nano_nano> Hi using kgdb on 2.6.28 seems to be pretty effective. Was wondering what the extras I'd get from using flyswatter?
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  • [02:37:32] <nano_nano> hi sorry for the spam, linux newbie here was wondering the pros and cons of kgdb vs flyswatter
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  • [02:41:45] <ds2> few flys? try fly tape? :D
  • [02:42:17] <nano_nano> :) don't have any, only kgdb at the moment
  • [02:42:26] <djlewis> I like that fly tape stuff. caught lots od gnats with it.
  • [02:43:07] <nano_nano> v. unhealthy option
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  • [03:31:11] <gatotkatja> how can I build rootfs for angstrom manually?
  • [03:32:40] <ds2> you start by learning how to run python code in your head
  • [03:32:41] <ds2> then...
  • [03:33:49] <djlewis> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardAndOpenEmbeddedGit
  • [03:34:06] <ds2> but but that isn't manual
  • [03:34:30] <djlewis> seems like a lot of hard work from what I hear :)
  • [03:34:44] <gatotkatja> ds2:yes -- with very slow connection that I have it is difficult to rely on bitbake
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  • [03:35:07] <gatotkatja> anyway -- I just need ALSA and DSPLink (or bridge) running
  • [03:35:31] <ds2> IMO, angstrom is not the way to go, but I am likely to get the rest of the channel coming after me with pitchforks and torches for saying that
  • [03:35:54] <djlewis> hey, I'm open minded...
  • [03:36:14] <gatotkatja> ds2: do you have any suggestions? :-)
  • [03:36:35] <ds2> setup a cross compiler and start compiling
  • [03:37:01] <ds2> or setup a root disk and build natively
  • [03:37:57] <djlewis> gatotka: http://frank.harvard.edu/~coldwell/toolchain/
  • [03:38:12] <solar> I wont come after you ds2
  • [03:38:27] <ds2> wonder if my alma matter has updated cross tools for armv7
  • [03:39:12] <gatotkatja> djlewis:well -- what i do need is something like: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/buildroot.html
  • [03:39:16] <djlewis> there is always CodeSourcery
  • [03:39:36] <ds2> gatotkatja: you are welcome to port buildroot
  • [03:40:13] <_av500_> buildroot for what?
  • [03:40:25] <ds2> Beagle
  • [03:40:38] <solar> what do you need there?
  • [03:41:22] <gatotkatja> I need a very small footprint :-) -- just for ALSA and DSPLink (or bridge)
  • [03:41:32] <_av500_> we use br actually
  • [03:42:14] <_av500_> for our omap3 based products
  • [03:43:01] <gatotkatja> _av500_:your OWN br?
  • [03:43:27] <_av500_> own?
  • [03:43:53] <_av500_> it is some stock br that we patched in afew places
  • [03:44:10] <gatotkatja> _av500_:oh ok
  • [03:44:46] <_av500_> it uses cs toolchain
  • [03:45:41] <_av500_> if you want to have look lokk at the gpl stuff on our website
  • [03:46:59] <gatotkatja> _av500_:I'd love to -- gimme the link please
  • [03:47:02] <solar> the existing current gpl toolchain is supposed to have what you need. And jackmet is very accepting of patches for new chosts. So any additional buildroot support that is not there can be added easy
  • [03:47:36] <_av500_> gatotkaca: archos.com downloads gen6 gpl
  • [03:47:47] <_av500_> no url im in a cab
  • [03:47:54] <ds2> Oh THOSE OMAP3 products
  • [03:48:03] <gatotkatja> _av500_:I'm flying to archos.com
  • [03:48:09] <_av500_> ya
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  • [03:49:23] <_av500_> mru: just for the record...
  • [03:50:32] <_av500_> err, m jackson dead?
  • [03:50:45] <djlewis> yep.
  • [03:51:25] <gatotkatja> RIP for him :-(
  • [03:52:53] <ds2> wonder if the concert ticket holds will get a refund
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  • [03:58:00] <gatotkatja> ogra: do you have plan to put ti-bridgedriver or dsplink on ubuntu-arm?
  • [03:58:33] <gatotkatja> ogra: so I can just --seed dsplink :-)
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  • [04:04:25] <_av500_> dsplink is not hard to build
  • [04:06:13] <djlewis> night all
  • [04:06:23] <_av500_> night
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  • [04:06:59] <_av500_> gm for the greenwich guys
  • [04:08:04] <ds2> eh? isn't it 0400 for them?
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  • [04:12:51] <_av500_> yeah time to wake up
  • [04:13:05] <_av500_> i had to 1h ago...
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  • [04:21:35] <_av500_> ok, train ride now
  • [04:21:40] <_av500_> bbl
  • [04:23:09] <gatotkatja> 11.22 here at gmt+7
  • [04:23:18] <gatotkatja> am
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  • [04:41:44] <raster> _av500_: ping
  • [04:42:05] <gatotkatja> _av500_:please gimme the simplest way too integrate dsplink -- and do you have a small example for playing with the dsp (not to mention the felipec's dsp-dummy)
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  • [05:00:05] <aanishn> but once I build one I cannot see this message, and kernel also does not properly configure the interface due to this afterwards
  • [05:00:56] <aanishn> how do I get the uboot to set the mac address ?
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  • [06:25:01] <pu47> in the gpio led framework what does ".default_trigger " and .active_low represent?
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  • [06:33:19] <gatotkatja> Helloooo -- how can I let buildroot to use external toolchain from CodeSourcery? i.e. linux-none-gnueabi?
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  • [07:31:15] <mru> morning
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  • [07:37:47] <pu47> hello, i am looking at gpio led framework, what are these 2 variables represent .default_trigger and ative low in struct gpio_led?
  • [07:48:01] <_av500_> mru: morning
  • [07:49:08] <mru> _av500_: good journey home?
  • [07:52:01] <_av500_> ja. in fra now....
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  • [08:40:46] <janneg> koen: do you mind checking a patch for the wrong colors in the mythtv live preview?
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  • [08:48:17] <janneg> koen: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1475234
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  • [08:51:28] <davidcb> Good morning
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  • [09:01:25] <AV500> raster: pong
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  • [09:10:54] <_roger_> hey AV500 - home ok?
  • [09:11:16] <AV500> _roger_: yep
  • [09:11:25] <AV500> where have you been yesterday eve?
  • [09:12:19] <_roger_> out wth the QT guys :) - time ran away from us chatting...
  • [09:12:48] <_roger_> janneg - nice patch!
  • [09:12:52] <_roger_> thanks man!
  • [09:13:15] <AV500> _roger_: we'll i'll complain loundly at TI!
  • [09:13:20] <AV500> -n
  • [09:13:33] <_roger_> :)
  • [09:13:57] <_roger_> yeah - sorry we missed you guys last night - hope you had a good one
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  • [09:14:39] <AV500> we did
  • [09:14:55] <AV500> oops, you micro crashed :-)
  • [09:14:59] <AV500> +r
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  • [09:26:31] <koen_> buenas dias a todos
  • [09:26:57] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> oh my god koen_
  • [09:27:52] <koen_> greetings from a hot Barcelona
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  • [09:32:48] <AV500> koen_: ola
  • [09:33:04] <AV500> you are not supposed to be up that time of day
  • [09:33:14] <AV500> you sleep till 4, then party till 4
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  • [09:33:26] <methril|work> good morning
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  • [09:39:38] <koen_> el rey de pop has died according to the tv
  • [09:45:45] <davidcb> Yup, Farah Fawcet also.
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  • [09:47:39] <koen_> davidcb: are your irrrrrrrlicht patches available somewhere?
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  • [09:48:45] <davidcb> koen_:I forwarded them to Cristian to include in his work. He is the Irrlicht sponsored project guy and an Irrlicht dev.
  • [09:49:15] <davidcb> koen_:The only really significant change was a hack I did to get textures to work. Not sure why it had to be done though.
  • [09:49:55] <davidcb> koen_:I could send it to you or put it up on my site and send you a link.
  • [09:50:15] <davidcb> koen_: But not for another 12 hours.
  • [09:50:44] <koen_> i won't be back home till tuesday :)
  • [09:51:05] <mru> koen_: what's going on in barcelona?
  • [09:51:49] <koen_> visiting my gf who's doing an internship at the uni
  • [09:52:10] <mru> and you're on irc!?!?!?!
  • [09:52:26] <koen_> she is at work
  • [09:52:30] <davidcb> koen_:Ok, later today I'll put the tar.gz up on my site, announce it here and e-mail you a link.
  • [09:52:45] <koen_> davidcb: great!
  • [09:53:06] <davidcb> koen_:It includes a quick recipe I made. It doesn't package anything yet. I was just copying the binaries by hand.
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  • [09:53:55] <davidcb> koen_:There was a link Crofton wanted to show you.
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  • [09:56:23] <koen_> later all
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  • [10:23:35] <jkridner|work1> good morning all. sick jason here.
  • [10:25:17] <AV500> back to bed!
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  • [10:25:55] <davidcb> AV500: Wow.
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  • [10:30:06] <AV500> davidcb: didnt last for long
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  • [11:30:19] <booxter> koen: ti-dsplink-module failed for beagleboard: http://pastebin.com/m1819d114 Seems that IO_PHYS is not the right identificator for the used omap kernel
  • [11:30:53] <booxter> koen: or is it in .dev linux-omap but not in stable one?
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  • [12:10:50] <davidcb> booxter: Is that for the codec-engine recipe?
  • [12:12:14] <booxter> davidcb: no, it's for ti-dsplink-module (as I already stated)
  • [12:13:01] <booxter> I grepped for IO_PHYS in staging kernel dir, and found only one definition - in arch/arm/plat-omap/.../io.h
  • [12:13:12] <davidcb> Ahhh ok, I saw Codec Engine in the output and thought you were building dsplink as part of codec engine the same way I did.
  • [12:13:34] <AV500> booxter: I lost some of the irc logs, what was the question?
  • [12:13:42] <booxter> ti-dsplink-module failed for beagleboard: http://pastebin.com/m1819d114 Seems that IO_PHYS is not the right identificator for the used omap kernel
  • [12:13:46] <booxter> or is it in .dev linux-omap but not in stable one?
  • [12:14:09] <booxter> that was the question
  • [12:14:28] <booxter> but as I already stated there _is_ IO_PHYS definition in platform code
  • [12:14:33] <AV500> booxter: your are building it for DM6441!!!
  • [12:14:47] <AV500> /shmem/Linux/dm6446gem_phy_shmem.c
  • [12:14:55] <booxter> so the question now is: why doesn't build procedure pick it properly?
  • [12:15:00] <AV500> dm6446 = Davinci != omap3
  • [12:15:15] <AV500> booxter: did you configure it correclty?
  • [12:15:24] <booxter> AV500: maybe. I just use OpenEmbedded dvsdk recipes for it
  • [12:17:37] <AV500> booxter: ah ok
  • [12:18:42] <AV500> what is your codec_engine/cetools/packages/dsplink/config/BUILD/CURRENTCFG.MK
  • [12:19:00] <AV500> should have: export TI_DSPLINK_PLATFORM := OMAP3530
  • [12:19:41] <booxter> hm, I have DAVINCI
  • [12:20:05] <AV500> yes, hence the error above
  • [12:20:40] <booxter> ah, I see the root of the problem. Thanks a lot!
  • [12:22:26] <AV500> which is?
  • [12:24:49] <booxter> AV500: I used dvsdk recipes from .dev OE branch on stable/2009 one. But the latter doesn't include the needed (for dvsdk) environment settings in machine conf files yet.
  • [12:28:17] <AV500> ah, ok
  • [12:30:37] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> if you are doing dsplink stuff, it's probably better to use .dev since we've made a bunch of changes
  • [12:31:05] <booxter> _beagle_ltag_ti_: I need to have dsp stuff on stable/2009 because that's what my dev team uses
  • [12:31:23] <booxter> .dev is too broken to use it for development
  • [12:31:52] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> ok, you may want to just grab the recipes/dvsdk folder from .dev and use in stable/09
  • [12:31:57] <AV500> so .dev is not for dev? :-)
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  • [12:32:11] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> av500 :)
  • [12:32:33] <AV500> _beagle_ltag_ti_: so, you rebootet
  • [12:32:44] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> oh yeah baibie
  • [12:33:11] <AV500> for all I know, you could be a DM320 though :-)
  • [12:34:02] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> demofun@beagle01:~/Desktop$ uname -a
  • [12:34:02] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> Linux beagle01 2.6.29-5e #2 Sun May 24 21:22:55 UTC 2009 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [12:34:02] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> demofun@beagle01:~/Desktop$
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  • [12:34:32] <booxter> AV500: .dev is for OE dev not dev based on OE :)
  • [12:35:02] <booxter> _beagle_ltag_ti_: + changes in conf/machine/include/omap3.inc
  • [12:35:17] <booxter> _beagle_ltag_ti_: and the latter was the root of my problem
  • [12:35:45] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> yep
  • [12:36:02] <booxter> I placed dvsdk settings from there into local.conf I wish it will do the job
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  • [12:38:47] <booxter> wow, do_compile succeded
  • [12:39:55] <AV500> hooray
  • [12:42:27] <davidcb> Has anyone done, or planning to do, any work with getting the DSP core to output directly to the audio codec?
  • [12:42:36] <AV500> no, why?
  • [12:43:00] <mru> sounds tricky, the interrupts would still go to the arm
  • [12:43:04] <davidcb> I am thinking about it. I want to use the DSP core to handle sound output.
  • [12:43:10] <AV500> why?
  • [12:43:28] <davidcb> Yeah, I would still have to control the codec through the ARM side I2C link.
  • [12:43:52] <davidcb> But I think the audio data could be sent to MCBSP from the DSP.
  • [12:44:13] <mru> have the dsp decode into two (or more) memory buffers, signalling the ARM each time one is filled
  • [12:44:20] <davidcb> Because when I add sound to Irrlicht my frame rate goes from 30 to 20.
  • [12:44:36] <AV500> davidcb: decoding 10channel audio?
  • [12:44:56] <davidcb> No, 3D positional audio through OpenAL.
  • [12:45:14] <davidcb> One sound effect. Like a foot step sound.
  • [12:45:14] <mru> the arm side should only need to do some simple buffer management
  • [12:45:32] <AV500> davidcb: so move the audio processing to the DSP, but still output via the arm
  • [12:45:42] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> sounds like something going wrong... should be just ptr exchange + pacing on the arm
  • [12:45:48] <davidcb> Yeah, true. I was thinking though it would be nice to offload it completely if possible.
  • [12:45:58] <AV500> that's complete enough
  • [12:46:07] <davidcb> Ok, thanks.
  • [12:47:23] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> davidcb, have you looked at the dmai test applications?
  • [12:47:23] <AV500> _beagle_ltag_ti_: well, if it wasn't so underpowered ... :-)
  • [12:48:07] <davidcb> No, just the samples that come with DSP/BIOS Link.
  • [12:48:43] <davidcb> And the device driver code for some of the other cores in the CSLs.
  • [12:49:51] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> take a look at the audio dmai apps - these do this
  • [12:50:31] <davidcb> Ok, will do. Thanks.
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  • [14:59:28] <bobkatzz> Finally got FLDigi in XP to transmit - next trying to get it to transmit in Ubuntu - how can I confirm that the system has found my serial/USB adapter in Ubuntu (my dev box)
  • [14:59:59] <bobkatzz> had to figure out what the proper PTT setting were for fldigi
  • [15:00:07] <bobkatzz> so got those now
  • [15:00:45] <bobkatzz> but can't get any signal in Linux - drivers?
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  • [15:02:13] <bobkatzz> tried several ttySx numbers (ttyS2 is COM3 and that's what flidigi likes in XP - don't know if that translates to Linux
  • [15:02:35] <AV500> bobkatzz: dmesg?
  • [15:02:44] <bobkatzz> dmesg?
  • [15:02:55] <AV500> dmesg!
  • [15:03:00] <AV500> on the command line
  • [15:03:05] <bobkatzz> ok - one sec
  • [15:03:35] <bobkatzz> whoa ! lotsa stuff in there!
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  • [15:04:33] <bobkatzz> AV500: got that - what am I looking for
  • [15:04:52] <AV500> something live /dev/ttyUSBx
  • [15:04:53] <bobkatzz> does that activate the device?
  • [15:05:04] <AV500> no, it justs prints all the kernel log msgs
  • [15:05:13] <bobkatzz> ok like dmesg|grep USB ?
  • [15:05:18] <AV500> yes
  • [15:06:04] <bobkatzz> [ 5.124536] USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0
  • [15:06:04] <bobkatzz> [ 5.124663] uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
  • [15:06:04] <bobkatzz> [ 5.164251] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
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  • [15:06:32] <bobkatzz> so how do I select that?
  • [15:07:41] <AV500> no, this is just a hub, by no tty
  • [15:08:10] <AV500> unlug and replug your usb serial
  • [15:08:14] <bobkatzz> ok
  • [15:08:19] <AV500> then look at the bottom of the dmesg output
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  • [15:09:25] <bobkatzz> [41193.627104] ppdev0: registered pardevice
  • [15:09:25] <bobkatzz> [41193.676408] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
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  • [15:10:17] <AV500> a usb parallel port?
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  • [15:10:31] <bobkatzz> don't know what that is
  • [15:10:35] <s27> i am using dss2 to write a display driver for a sharp lcd. i need to pass 2 or more gpio's between the board specific and the lcd display driver. but the structure omap_dss_display_config does not allow that
  • [15:10:48] <bobkatzz> it's a Radio Shack USB/Serial adapter
  • [15:11:03] <bobkatzz> has worked very well so far
  • [15:11:11] <bobkatzz> in XP of course :P
  • [15:11:26] <AV500> got lsusb?
  • [15:12:04] <bobkatzz> is that a driver or porgram?
  • [15:12:20] <AV500> program
  • [15:12:23] <AV500> just try
  • [15:12:38] <AV500> it dumps usb info
  • [15:12:47] <AV500> like lspci for PCI cards
  • [15:12:56] <raster> AV500: yo!
  • [15:13:05] <bobkatzz> seems to be in the OE build tree so may on the BB and not necessarily on my dev box where I am testing now
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  • [15:13:17] <bobkatzz> ok will try
  • [15:13:25] <AV500> raster: yo2
  • [15:13:41] <AV500> was in berlin yesterday, saw the road guys :-)
  • [15:13:46] <bobkatzz> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
  • [15:13:49] <raster> AV500: ooh cool. have a fun chat?
  • [15:13:59] <AV500> well :-=
  • [15:14:01] <AV500> well :-)
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  • [15:17:45] <bobkatzz> so is there a way to specify that a USB device be assigned to a port like COM3?
  • [15:18:11] <AV500> bobkatzz: that all? Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
  • [15:19:25] <bobkatzz> yep
  • [15:19:34] <AV500> on your desktop PC?
  • [15:19:44] <bobkatzz> yep
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  • [15:20:24] <bobkatzz> and that's the only usb device on there - oh wait there's a mouse
  • [15:20:40] <AV500> I'd assume :-)
  • [15:20:44] <bobkatzz> my keyboard is not USB (ancient heh)
  • [15:20:52] <AV500> neither is mine
  • [15:21:28] <bobkatzz> I just repaired my 1970 Sanwa volt meter -
  • [15:21:48] <bobkatzz> much more sensitive that my digital
  • [15:22:15] <bobkatzz> plus I cna SEE the damn thing move when it registers
  • [15:22:18] <bobkatzz> can
  • [15:23:09] <bobkatzz> ok so would it have anything to do with being in VMWare? the device definitely works in XP if I flip over there
  • [15:23:21] <AV500> aaah, vmware
  • [15:23:24] <bobkatzz> I mean without even unplugging it
  • [15:23:39] <AV500> so you see virtual devices in your linux?
  • [15:24:21] <bobkatzz> um not sure
  • [15:24:37] <bobkatzz> checking
  • [15:24:53] <AV500> i mean, you linux is in vmware on your XP machine?
  • [15:25:03] <bobkatzz> yes
  • [15:25:13] <bobkatzz> Ubuntu in VMWare on XP
  • [15:25:28] <AV500> next time state that 1st :-)
  • [15:25:37] <bobkatzz> BTW fldigi runs MUCH better on the BB!!
  • [15:25:44] <bobkatzz> oh - sorry :(
  • [15:26:23] <AV500> I guess you need to convicne vmware to make this serial appear in the hosted linux, no idea how...
  • [15:26:55] <bobkatzz> I think I'll just bail on VMWare Ubuntu and go straight to the BB to check this out
  • [15:27:53] <bobkatzz> the only problem is a Pidgin for some reason is not behaving on the BB and mibbit is dead so - no #beagle over there
  • [15:28:16] <AV500> but you have the XP ps, no?
  • [15:28:54] <bobkatzz> and I have to switch the monitor cables to go back and forth (nedd a switch hehe)
  • [15:28:57] <bobkatzz> need
  • [15:29:13] <bobkatzz> so I cna't see both at the same time
  • [15:29:19] <AV500> well, no comment :-)
  • [15:29:26] <bobkatzz> heh
  • [15:30:12] <bobkatzz> I can steal wifey's monitor in a while though so until she returns from shopping I should be good
  • [15:30:36] <bobkatzz> I definitely need to get another one
  • [15:30:51] <AV500> yes
  • [15:30:52] <s27> tomba: any idea?
  • [15:31:04] <bobkatzz> the BB is supposed to have an LCD here soon so that will be the permanent fix there
  • [15:31:31] <AV500> dirk2: not always
  • [15:31:38] <AV500> it has split personality
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  • [15:33:54] <jkridner|work> sakoman, mru: I just moved my contest votes to try to get a second board given away this week.
  • [15:34:09] <bobkatzz> ok thanks AV500 - going to "the dark side" now - appreciate your help
  • [15:34:30] <bobkatzz> maybe I can get another irc client working from over there
  • [15:34:45] <davidcb> bobkatzz: I guess you have probably seen this before. Crofton sent this link last night. http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
  • [15:34:46] <bobkatzz> since my Pidgin has Avian Flu :P
  • [15:35:07] <bobkatzz> checking -
  • [15:36:15] <bobkatzz> whoa that's awesome!
  • [15:36:23] <davidcb> Yeah.
  • [15:36:32] <bobkatzz> nice granulation too!
  • [15:37:20] <bobkatzz> very kewl? will post link on my RARCPIO site
  • [15:37:29] <sakoman> jkridner|work: my votes are n
  • [15:37:31] <sakoman> in
  • [15:37:34] <bobkatzz> (?)< --- huh?
  • [15:38:24] <davidcb> Yeah, I caught a nice pile up on 40 last night.
  • [15:38:33] <jkridner|work> thanks sakoman! I'll send out notices to the winners.
  • [15:38:48] <tomba> s27: at least in the latest versions there's a field that can be used to pass custom data
  • [15:40:05] <AV500> davidcb: dl8aau is listening to it now in the office :-)
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  • [15:41:47] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> looks like the laptop back in my hotel fell off the internet
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  • [15:42:00] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> srujanjonnadula: how is it going today?
  • [15:42:13] <srujanjonnadula> hey
  • [15:42:16] <srujanjonnadula> its going alright
  • [15:42:21] * _beagle_ltag_ti_ is crofton
  • [15:42:32] <srujanjonnadula> hey i do have a question though
  • [15:42:36] <AV500> _beagle_ltag_ti_: your free wifi expired :-)
  • [15:42:50] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> my provider isd NETGEAR
  • [15:42:56] <srujanjonnadula> i just developed a simple gpp-side dsplink application
  • [15:43:06] <srujanjonnadula> which uses the API's associated
  • [15:43:08] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> the free hotel wifi did not work
  • [15:43:17] <bobkatzz> davidcb: the advent of the community radio!!
  • [15:43:24] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> srujanjonnadula: with a sasne makefile?
  • [15:43:33] <bobkatzz> or should we say global?
  • [15:43:40] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> er sane
  • [15:43:44] <srujanjonnadula> yea
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  • [15:43:50] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> cool
  • [15:44:03] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> I look forward\to seeing it when I get home
  • [15:44:13] <srujanjonnadula> well in my makefile it just does a gcc compile, but i figured that probably wasn't right
  • [15:44:29] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> I can sort that out laster :)
  • [15:44:38] <Beagle1> Anyone have a compiled libjpg for angstrom or know where i can find it please?
  • [15:44:38] <srujanjonnadula> ok
  • [15:44:44] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> once I see the patterns, I know the standard vars to use
  • [15:44:49] <srujanjonnadula> oh ok
  • [15:45:05] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> even better if I can get it going with autotools
  • [15:45:19] <AV500> autotools...
  • [15:45:24] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> hard\coding compiler names is evil :)
  • [15:45:33] <srujanjonnadula> haha
  • [15:45:37] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> autotols sucks, but there is nothing better
  • [15:45:53] <srujanjonnadula> what is autotools?
  • [15:45:59] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> heh
  • [15:46:05] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> search for the goat book
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  • [15:47:07] <AV500> that was it for today, half the office is playing with http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ now...
  • [15:47:16] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> rofl
  • [15:47:22] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> that is korn's uni
  • [15:47:36] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> er koen's
  • [15:47:40] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> this kb is funny
  • [15:47:41] <AV500> k
  • [15:47:55] <AV500> as I said, you have to fast track him to a call sign
  • [15:48:22] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> he called the ham ham's "hardcore soldering iron nerds in their radio hut"
  • [15:48:27] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> :)
  • [15:48:41] <AV500> isnt the proper term "shack" :-)
  • [15:48:45] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> yeah
  • [15:49:15] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> I once had a german speaker explain about "camping houses" for tent
  • [15:49:26] <bobkatzz> wow there's a nice pileup on 20 here in my QTH now - gonna jump off to the BB and see what I can do with the USB/Serial adapter -
  • [15:49:29] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> I thing everything is a house in German
  • [15:49:37] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> bobkatzz: gl
  • [15:49:42] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> ok
  • [15:49:48] <bobkatzz> tx l8r guys
  • [15:49:53] <AV500> 73
  • [15:49:55] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> I might be around later todayu
  • [15:50:20] <AV500> latero todayu crofton-san?
  • [15:50:20] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> but after tomorrow am I will be on the road for a while
  • [15:50:24] <s27> tomba: i use 2.6.29 from oe. i try to clone your tree but it fails
  • [15:50:28] <muriani> bah
  • [15:50:30] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> back in US July 7
  • [15:50:36] <_beagle_ltag_ti_> l8r guys
  • [15:50:42] <AV500> I go there July 8th :-)
  • [15:50:48] <muriani> trying to find a PCI capture card that'll work in linux laying around here at work
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  • [15:54:19] <s27> tomba: all gpio numbers should be set in the board file and need to be accessed if needed in the lcd driver correct? i have a couple of gpio's that need to be accessed in the lcd driver after doing some spi writes
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  • [15:54:54] <s27> i have something like <gpio1 set> spi write <gpio2 set again>
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  • [16:06:32] <javaJake> AV500: nice
  • [16:07:20] <javaJake> AV500: too bad I can't understand the language spoken :P
  • [16:07:58] <_av500_> javaJake: its ham speak
  • [16:08:12] <javaJake> Ham speak?
  • [16:08:18] <javaJake> I've heard of pig latin... ;)
  • [16:08:20] <_av500_> they speak about ham
  • [16:08:38] <_av500_> bing for it...
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  • [16:39:17] <tomba> s27: it's up to you how you implement it. but you can have a custom struct, which is initialized in the board file and the panel driver can then get the values from there
  • [16:42:29] <tomba> s27: what do those gpios do?
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  • [17:03:40] <tor2> Ahh, the touchbook folks now take international orders too.. and they changed the usb/sd stuff a little bit. Very tempting...
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  • [17:48:11] <bobkatzz> wow! that was very wierd! Pidgin was not working but then in a moment of frustration I typed irc.freenode.net into my Firefox browser address line and after a second - BAM! up pops Pidgin which ahd logged in to freenode - is this and anomaly?
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  • [17:50:16] <bobkatzz> so anyway here I am in Beagel Land and FLDigi is happily chugging away receiveing every dang signal but . . not transmitting. I have confirmed that the audio portion of the transmit signall is being generated correctly so it's down to the serial port as I suspected
  • [17:50:53] <bobkatzz> did the dmesg test and it has properly recognized the USB?Serial adapter and assigned it to ttyUSB0
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  • [17:59:53] <bobkatzz> pre quiet in here today
  • [18:00:09] <bobkatzz> how bout you AK6L?
  • [18:01:35] <davidcb> Is it the kind of interface that toggles one of the lines on the serial port directly in order to transmit?
  • [18:01:52] <bobkatzz> yes
  • [18:02:03] <bobkatzz> but i'm not sure which one
  • [18:02:47] <bobkatzz> it should be tx (there is rx and tx pinouts on the serial pin plan
  • [18:02:48] <davidcb> Yeah, so it is possible for it to work in Windows and not in Linux.
  • [18:03:00] <bobkatzz> oh yeah - works very well
  • [18:03:17] <bobkatzz> and with FLDigi - that is the test that I confirmed this morning
  • [18:03:34] <davidcb> Well usually it is hard to keep rx and tx keyed constantly so they usually use one of the handshaking lines.
  • [18:03:40] <davidcb> Like RTS or CTS
  • [18:04:02] <bobkatzz> ah ok - but there is a limited amount of set up available in the software
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  • [18:04:29] <davidcb> I am thinking that it might work if you can disable the serial console and use the built in serial port.
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  • [18:04:37] <bobkatzz> and I have set it up identically to the setting ins windows - except designated ttyUSB0 rather than COM3
  • [18:05:05] <davidcb> Yeah, I think the difference is probably in the driver.
  • [18:05:17] <bobkatzz> ah - yes kown had mentioned that the other day but every time that I do that - when I go back it has been reset
  • [18:05:20] <ds2> keeping rx/tx keyed is not a problem on the beagle ;)
  • [18:05:36] <bobkatzz> yeah I think that's right
  • [18:05:47] <davidcb> Actually it would be nice to asign a GPIO for it.
  • [18:06:02] <bobkatzz> I think it's that other issue with the serial being locked - I Googled that yesterday
  • [18:06:08] <davidcb> But that would be a bit more work.
  • [18:06:30] <ds2> just use the pinmux
  • [18:06:39] <bobkatzz> but didn't really come away with a directive
  • [18:06:40] <ds2> change TX/RX into GPIO mode and you are done.
  • [18:07:06] <davidcb> But the software expects to be operating on a COM port.
  • [18:07:06] <bobkatzz> but what will the software recogize?
  • [18:07:14] <davidcb> So it would have to be pacthed as well.
  • [18:07:26] <ds2> software is trivial
  • [18:07:33] <bobkatzz> well no - actually it recognizes tty ports
  • [18:07:49] <ds2> then add the ioctl hooks to the tty driver
  • [18:07:55] <davidcb> Sorry, just using Windows land terminology.
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  • [18:08:06] <bobkatzz> it has a popup message that says like "tty0 = COM1"
  • [18:08:13] <ds2> No
  • [18:08:19] <ds2> tty0 cannot be COM1
  • [18:08:27] <ds2> ttyS0 is generally the name
  • [18:08:35] <davidcb> Is there a serial port available on the expansion header?
  • [18:08:36] <bobkatzz> so the software is designed to run in Linux - just hasn't been on Angstrom before
  • [18:08:48] <ds2> yes, there is a UART on the header
  • [18:08:48] <muriani> there's a serial port header on the board alreaday
  • [18:09:02] <bobkatzz> there is that 10 pin header
  • [18:09:03] <ds2> UART1 or UART2 forgot which
  • [18:09:10] <muriani> on the expansion port, dunno
  • [18:09:20] <bobkatzz> that's what I use with minicom right?
  • [18:09:25] <muriani> 10-pin header is ttyS2
  • [18:09:35] <ds2> the 10pin header is at RS-232 levels AND inverted. The expansion port is at 1.8V logic level and not inverted
  • [18:09:48] <bobkatzz> I tried to use that but was not aware of how to select it or which tty# is was
  • [18:09:54] <davidcb> If you just remove console=ttyS2 from the bootargs that should free up the port for the software to use, no?
  • [18:09:59] <davidcb> ttyS2
  • [18:10:16] <muriani> If you need the RS232 port, it should yes
  • [18:10:16] <ds2> davidcb: yes, but you can still share it w/o doing that
  • [18:10:27] <davidcb> Ahhhh ok.
  • [18:11:05] <davidcb> bobkatzz: So just plug into the onboard serial connector, use /dev/ttyS2 and see what happens.
  • [18:11:20] <bobkatzz> as far as I know there isn't anything else using serial on the board right now
  • [18:11:37] <ds2> for the most part the UARTs on the OMAP are 16550 compatible with extra registers
  • [18:11:46] <ds2> so if you must use the UART....
  • [18:12:28] <bobkatzz> which is the onboard serial connector? - the ten pin that I mentioned?
  • [18:12:34] <davidcb> Yeah.
  • [18:12:52] <davidcb> The pin out is in the srm.
  • [18:12:59] <bobkatzz> ok - the cable that I have is null modem so I'll have to swap the pins right?
  • [18:13:14] <ds2> or put another null modem in series
  • [18:13:21] <davidcb> I think that one needs a null modem cable, no?
  • [18:13:27] <davidcb> Nope, sorry
  • [18:13:46] <muriani> if you got the cable for serial console, yeah, it's null modem
  • [18:14:01] <davidcb> But I doubt it is using rx or tx anyway so null modem shouldn't matter.
  • [18:14:12] <bobkatzz> oh yeah - I did some investigation yesterday and hooked my VM to BB grnd and then hit transmit to see which pins would go high (+v) but none did except 4 and that's alway high
  • [18:14:26] <muriani> https://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/order.htm <-- they have a straight IDC10 to DB9 cable there
  • [18:15:03] <bobkatzz> well I built mine so I can just swap it now that i'm not booting from minicom any more :P
  • [18:15:04] <davidcb> Was that on the USB adapter or the on board serial port?
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  • [18:16:01] <bobkatzz> the test I referred to was on the IDC10 pins
  • [18:16:35] <ds2> if you are not using RX/TX, the 10pin console header will NOT work
  • [18:17:03] <davidcb> Ahhhh, the handshaking signals are not brought out to it?
  • [18:17:06] <bobkatzz> ok so how do I select it? maybe that's an idea
  • [18:17:26] <davidcb> Well it is ttyS2.
  • [18:18:34] <bobkatzz> the rig setup options are quite complex and there are 4 formats - hardware PTT, hamlib, memmap, and RigCat
  • [18:19:17] <davidcb> Can you use RigCat with your rig?
  • [18:19:17] <ds2> yep. there are only 3 wires there
  • [18:19:34] <bobkatzz> and except for hardware they all use software commands to toggle the receive/transmit off/on
  • [18:19:54] <davidcb> Well those should work then.
  • [18:20:05] <davidcb> Just the hardware control wont work.
  • [18:20:20] <bobkatzz> you have to have a RigCat compatable rig and most of the kits use a simple serial cable to toggle the tx/rx pins for that
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  • [18:20:47] <bobkatzz> ds2 - yep who?
  • [18:21:07] <bobkatzz> misse dthat exchange looking at RigCat hehe
  • [18:22:16] <bobkatzz> again Fldigi is designed to use the serial pin voltages and works in XP - so I started with those settings
  • [18:23:01] <bobkatzz> and the BB recognizes the USB/Serial adapter ans assigned it to ttyUSB0 and I selected that as well
  • [18:23:45] <bobkatzz> wish I had a way of seeing/testing the voltages on the other end (rig end ) of the serial adapter
  • [18:24:00] <davidcb> USB adapters can be flaky when it comes to trying to use them for hardware control.
  • [18:24:18] <davidcb> But you might be able to get it to work.
  • [18:24:20] <bobkatzz> I'n hip ;)
  • [18:24:24] <bobkatzz> I'm
  • [18:25:05] <bobkatzz> I think I will take a hike back to my user manual for the rig and see just exactly which pin it's looking for voltage on
  • [18:25:15] <davidcb> I don't know anything about the other three options.
  • [18:25:22] <bobkatzz> and try working backwards form there
  • [18:25:29] <davidcb> Sorry I can't be more help right now.
  • [18:25:41] <_av500_> bobkatzz: so something worked i see
  • [18:25:59] <bobkatzz> yeah, no the other options are for commercial rigs that are expecting a command line to execute
  • [18:26:36] <davidcb> I am pretty sure we could get it to work with GPIO but it would have to be looked at.
  • [18:26:53] <bobkatzz> well I got fldigi to transmit in XP that had not happed until this moring due to the number of options - just took the right combo
  • [18:26:57] <davidcb> ds2 seems to know a lot more than me about that.
  • [18:27:13] <bobkatzz> but when I translated those over to Ubuntu in VMWare it did not wrok
  • [18:27:38] <davidcb> So maybe just need some more playing with settings?
  • [18:27:42] <bobkatzz> but Ubuntu is so flacky that the software barely runs - so now I'm in BB and it's running fabulous
  • [18:27:45] <bobkatzz> but no tx
  • [18:27:56] <ds2> yep was refering to there being no hand shake on the 10pin header
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  • [18:28:23] <bobkatzz> yet - it is generating the transmit audio signals creectly but not toggling the serial tx pin
  • [18:28:46] <bobkatzz> ah ok - ds2 - gotchya
  • [18:28:56] <davidcb> ds2: At this point he is on a USB/serial adapter on the beagle. It worked in windows but not on beagle.
  • [18:29:25] <bobkatzz> yes an the BB has recognized and assigned the adapter to ttyUSB0
  • [18:29:37] <bobkatzz> which I have selected in fldigi
  • [18:29:44] <ds2> davidcb: oh... maybe the ioctls are not fully implemented?
  • [18:29:57] <ds2> w/o know what the protocol is, these are mere guesses
  • [18:30:03] <ds2> knowing
  • [18:30:09] <bobkatzz> but no dice yet - and again I think it may have something to do with there being a lock on serial devices
  • [18:30:10] <_av500_> bobkatzz: so you use serial ptt mode
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  • [18:30:24] <bobkatzz> yes _av500_
  • [18:30:33] <_av500_> just reading the fldigi dcos
  • [18:30:35] <_av500_> docs
  • [18:32:02] <bobkatzz> it notes xml files for rigcat control but agian that is rig-specific
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  • [18:32:28] <bobkatzz> and my QRP rigs are not that sophisticated ;0
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  • [18:34:30] <bobkatzz> it does talk about a parallel port on Linux though
  • [18:34:31] <_av500_> bobkatzz: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/FAQ+Fldigi+PTT+and+rig+control+with+USB+ports
  • [18:34:49] <_av500_> bobkatzz: yeah but you have no parallel port
  • [18:35:19] <ds2> the parallel port is most likely being used as a GPIO set
  • [18:35:30] <ds2> you can probally synthsize that with GPIOs and a hacked up driver
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  • [18:35:54] <ds2> if it uses iopl() then it may get trickier
  • [18:36:15] <bobkatzz> checking . . .
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  • [18:38:00] <bobkatzz> ok there's one idea - although its for "Puppy" Linux (is that a hurtin puppy? ;))
  • [18:38:12] <bobkatzz> lemme try that
  • [18:38:18] <_av500_> bobkatzz: do you have a serial devices to hook up to the bb, just to make sure you can access the serial port properly?
  • [18:38:35] <_av500_> using e.g. minicom on the bb
  • [18:38:48] <ds2> ewwww minicom ;)
  • [18:38:52] <ds2> curses hell
  • [18:38:53] <_av500_> it could be that you as a user do not have the right to use dev ttyusb
  • [18:39:19] <_av500_> sometime you have to add the user tu uucp group to use the serial ports
  • [18:39:26] <bobkatzz> ah so fldigi would have to have root permission?
  • [18:39:42] <_av500_> ds2: what do you use?
  • [18:39:59] <_av500_> bobkatzz: you can of course try that
  • [18:40:12] <bobkatzz> yeah - when I went to set the serial port so that it was not locked it asked for my root password and then disappeared
  • [18:40:28] <bobkatzz> when I opended it again it was set back to lock
  • [18:41:18] <_av500_> you can solder a pin 2-3 loopback and try that on the serial port
  • [18:41:54] <bobkatzz> <<<SOLDER?>>>>> why not just stick a jumper in it? :P
  • [18:41:56] <ds2> _av500_: kermit
  • [18:42:07] <_av500_> ds2: ok
  • [18:42:18] <ds2> I got tired of fighting curses
  • [18:42:47] <_av500_> well, it works for us...
  • [18:42:51] <bobkatzz> ok let me reel back 2 soloutions and try running fldigi as root (from the command line I assume)
  • [18:43:11] <ds2> it works fine as long as you are always on the same machine/console type
  • [18:43:42] <ds2> I am a bit more nomadic...hopping between a raw linux console, xterms of various defaults to who knows what and even times from putty
  • [18:44:00] <ds2> Oh and half the time, there is 'screen' in the middle
  • [18:45:43] <bobkatzz> :D:D:D:P:)
  • [18:45:56] <bobkatzz> boy! that was simple! :D
  • [18:46:00] <ds2> it workeed?!
  • [18:46:10] <bobkatzz> it was just complex gettin there! hehe
  • [18:46:42] <ds2> when is the QSL card due to arrive? ;)
  • [18:46:55] <bobkatzz> launched as root - selected ttyUSB0 and Shazamm! heard my transmition over my NC300 tuned to 14050mKz
  • [18:47:19] <bobkatzz> heh - you can download it - it's in Flash :)
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  • [18:48:02] <bobkatzz> let's see if I can get a QSO (eeeeww someone's sending Olivia!)
  • [18:48:18] <bobkatzz> sounds like heehaheeehawheehaw
  • [18:48:53] <_av500_> bobkatzz: cool
  • [18:49:22] <ds2> wonder if you can turn the Beagle into a DF unit by adding 2 phased antennas and a rf switch
  • [18:49:51] <_av500_> ds2: hunting for u-boots
  • [18:50:02] <ds2> hehe
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  • [19:00:00] <bobkatzz> ds2 they are using soft rock receivers for radio astronomy could put that software on BB - two signals so far aprat (not sure ) with downlink antennas
  • [19:00:10] <bobkatzz> apart
  • [19:00:48] <bobkatzz> boys there's a big pileup in BPSK31
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  • [19:07:30] <tequilaworm> I would like to add a 3-deep sysfs tree, but I could not find a good reference
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  • [19:07:58] <tequilaworm> So far 1 deep plus attributes
  • [19:11:24] <muriani> bobkatzz: that's another minor area of interest of mine, radio astronomy
  • [19:11:44] <_av500_> muriani: your bb up and running?
  • [19:12:58] <muriani> _av500_: yeah
  • [19:13:00] <muriani> no video though
  • [19:13:16] <muriani> working on getting an s-video input on my workstation so I can at least see SOMETHING
  • [19:13:37] <bobkatzz> so guys - thanks for your help - this confirms that Fldigi can be used with all the Small Wonder Labs PSK20, 40, Warbler 80 and other such rigs - not just SDR - I just successfully transmitted on the SWL PSK20 on 14050mHz
  • [19:13:51] <bobkatzz> and Beagleboard too of course!!
  • [19:14:52] <bobkatzz> nice litte $55 kit you can put together in a couple of evenings (of course you have to have a General license to really work it) :P
  • [19:15:30] <bobkatzz> will run all the digital modes too since it uses SSB for the digital signal output
  • [19:15:39] <bobkatzz> and CW!
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  • [19:15:59] <bobkatzz> next up - the SR 6.3
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  • [19:24:14] <muriani> I HAVE VIDEO!
  • [19:24:22] <muriani> well, input on the workstation at least
  • [19:25:45] <muriani> now I gotta figure out what voodoo's required to display output on the s0video
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  • [19:30:52] <_av500_> muriani: why not do vnc?
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  • [19:34:21] <muriani> because I want native video output
  • [19:34:42] <muriani> I don't want to be running snes9x over vnc, I want it on my 29" NEC CRT at home :)
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  • [19:35:02] <_av500_> ok
  • [19:35:02] <muriani> (for example)
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  • [19:52:20] <muriani> HAH
  • [19:52:24] <muriani> it's working
  • [19:52:26] <julianoliver> hola a todos
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  • [20:09:59] <muriani> interesting, downloading something from ftp via wget is hanging on angstrom
  • [20:12:51] <dcordes_> try to download from same uri with wget on different machine
  • [20:15:35] <_av500_> muriani: go snes go
  • [20:16:19] <muriani> dcordes_: I did
  • [20:16:21] <muriani> works fine there
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  • [20:20:09] <bobkatzz> OK - made the first QSO on Beagleboard? 20M 14051.5mHz
  • [20:20:30] <bobkatzz> wish I could insert the screen shot but will put it up later
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  • [20:25:41] <bobkatzz> with AF4GH in Warner Ribbins, GA
  • [20:25:53] <bobkatzz> Robbins :P
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  • [20:29:24] <_av500_> bobkatzz: hooray
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  • [20:29:30] <_av500_> and good night
  • [20:29:31] <_av500_> 73
  • [20:34:11] <bobkatzz> and another one !
  • [20:34:45] <bobkatzz> Duoglasville, GA (they love Beagels down there!) :P
  • [20:35:00] <bobkatzz> good night 73
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  • [20:42:59] <davidcb> bobkatzz: Congrats. Glad it worked out.
  • [20:43:28] <bobkatzz> yeah very kewl!
  • [20:43:44] <bobkatzz> workin on another one :P
  • [20:44:11] <bobkatzz> HOLY shit this guy's in BRAZIL!!
  • [20:44:52] <davidcb> Lol. Later, when I have time, I'll look into using one of the I/Os on the expansion header so you wont have to use the USB/serial adapter.
  • [20:44:55] <davidcb> Wow, cool.
  • [20:48:21] <bobkatzz> I don't think he heard me though so that doesn't count until I see my call letters up there - but there are more heehee
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  • [20:49:48] <muriani> hmm.. I should probably install sdl-dev
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  • [20:55:00] <muriani> bobkatzz: nice contact :)
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  • [21:07:45] <Obscene_CNN> OT: does anybody know of a good channel for Eagle layout software questions?
  • [21:11:01] <bobkatzz> no but there is a great book (make your own circuit obards or something) that has a lot of references in there
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  • [21:20:19] <bobkatzz> and the software to do schematic to PCL conversions - very nice stuff - if I was on my XP box I'd get all the bookmarks for you Obscene_CNN
  • [21:20:53] <bobkatzz> but I'm chatting with guys up and down the East Coast on 20 meters with the Beagleboard hehe :P
  • [21:25:26] <Obscene_CNN> Well, I'm a PCB designer by profession and I'm learning/evaluating eagle to see if it is worth buying. I had a question on if it could do Soldermask Defined Pads
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  • [21:28:13] <bobkatzz> I'm a complete nooby but I did some pretty nice PC layouts with Eagle and now just have to burn em
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  • [22:18:20] <adj> Obscene_CNN: imho eagle is quite limited when it comes to non-copper layers like solder mask
  • [22:18:52] <Obscene_CNN> I'm finding that out ;) thanks adj
  • [22:19:16] <adj> i haven't designed any board with eagle using BGA's etc, but generally eagle library editor inserts the solder mask automatically for every pad
  • [22:19:54] <adj> i only have the version 4 professional, version 5 has some significant changes
  • [22:20:22] <Obscene_CNN> yep, and if I need to define a soldermask opening that is smaller than the pad it looks like I'm SOL
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  • [22:21:55] <adj> hmm, it seems that i'm unable to do any changes to solder mask on a pad
  • [22:22:23] <Obscene_CNN> thats what I'm noticing
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  • [22:25:41] <adj> i can, however, create a pad which is smaller than it should be and then place a circular piece of copper on top of that :)
  • [22:26:03] <adj> doesn't look nice, though
  • [22:26:12] <Obscene_CNN> that might be how I have to do it
  • [22:26:54] <adj> design rule check might whine about it
  • [22:28:21] <Obscene_CNN> true, DRCs are so picky :)
  • [22:31:53] <bobkatzz> Crofton did you see the latest? 3 QSO's in the Beagleboard with Fldigi on 20M BPSK31 SWL PSK20
  • [22:32:44] <bobkatzz> I'll post the screenshot when I get back onto my PC
  • [22:32:46] <Crofton> congrat's!
  • [22:33:03] <Crofton> great
  • [22:33:22] <bobkatzz> yeah - the serial port issue that we spent an hour +/- on truned to be be - um - simpler ;)
  • [22:33:43] <bobkatzz> it was like (launch program as root) heh
  • [22:34:14] <bobkatzz> otherwise fldigi did not have persmission to use the serial port - oh dhu!
  • [22:34:18] <bobkatzz> duh
  • [22:34:33] <bobkatzz> so now it teim for a nice G&T
  • [22:34:46] <Crofton> yeah
  • [22:34:52] <Crofton> we can work that out later :0
  • [22:34:54] <bobkatzz> and I'm ready for Feild Day tomorrow
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  • [22:35:06] <bobkatzz> Field
  • [22:35:38] <Crofton> with the beagle?
  • [22:37:16] <Crofton> ok gn all
  • [22:41:30] <ds2> bobkatzz: is the beagle going to be on battery power?
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  • [23:40:19] <Musashimaru> hello.
  • [23:43:25] <Musashimaru> I am facing a little problem with my terminal connection to the beagle. I created a db9-idc10 adapter>. I receive correctely all information on my terminal using minicom. However, it seems that my keyboard do not work. I can't stop autoboot using my keyboard in the terminal, or the keyboard on the beagle board. Any idea?
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  • [23:43:54] <djlewis> hi
  • [23:44:20] <ThomasEgi> Musashimaru, maybe you connected the wring transmit pin?
  • [23:44:44] <Musashimaru> do you have any idea which one it is?
  • [23:45:00] <adj> have you verified the whole chain of the cables using multimeter? pin 2 should go to pin 3 and vice versa
  • [23:45:43] <Musashimaru> oula... I read, that pin 2 has to go to pin 2
  • [23:46:11] <Musashimaru> I get my informations from here
  • [23:46:13] <ds2> did you disable flow control?
  • [23:46:13] <Musashimaru> http://www.pccables.com/07120.htm
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  • [23:46:34] <Musashimaru> minicom is set to hardware flow control it seems
  • [23:46:38] <ds2> set it to none
  • [23:46:41] <adj> at the db9-idc10 adapter, yes. But for the whole chain from computer to beagle the wiring must be 2->3 and 3->2
  • [23:47:05] <ds2> use make a idc10 to RJ45 adapter
  • [23:47:12] <Musashimaru> adj, I use a standard db9-db9 adapter...
  • [23:47:22] <ds2> then use cisco style connectors... life becomes much better at that point
  • [23:47:23] <Musashimaru> used for terminal or UPS control
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  • [23:49:13] <adj> did you try without flow control?
  • [23:49:31] <Musashimaru> hmmm... I try to make it work with the things I have in hand. Basicaly, a db9 connector, an idc10 and a cable
  • [23:49:40] <Musashimaru> adj, I'm about to try
  • [23:50:15] <Musashimaru> adj, you get it.
  • [23:50:18] <Musashimaru> I works.
  • [23:50:35] <Musashimaru> thank you so much, I may have never ffound it myself...
  • [23:50:57] <adj> i think it was ds2 who pointed that out, but no problem :)
  • [23:51:14] <Musashimaru> yes, thank you so much ds2
  • [23:52:08] <Musashimaru> I'm fighting for some time now, and I'm will be able to boot my system soon.... and then, it will be time to play with the dsp... :)
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  • [23:54:11] <djlewis> Hurray, another satisfied customer ...
  • [23:54:27] <Musashimaru> djlewis, :)
  • [23:54:40] <djlewis> :)
  • [23:55:33] <Musashimaru> One question. Since I want to use the dsp for my program, I want to know if angstrom vi narcissus provide kernels with dsp bridge by default?
  • [23:55:57] <Musashimaru> If I may avoid compiling the kernel, I may appreciate
  • [23:57:04] <Musashimaru> Ho my god.... it is booting.....
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