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  • [00:45:00] <javaJake> Erm...
  • [00:45:08] <javaJake> Oops, wrong window...
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  • [01:04:26] <Puppy> BB video and audio encoders - check all three pages, software and docs
  • [01:04:29] <Puppy> https://focus.ti.com/general/docs/tags/fldrsfortagTemplate.tsp?tagName=beagleboard&startIndex=0
  • [01:05:19] <javaJake> Puppy: nice list
  • [01:10:11] <javaJake> Heh...
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  • [01:10:53] <javaJake> I haven't a clue how these codecs are applied, so I'm browsing these pages, just getting rather confused.
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  • [01:12:37] <javaJake> They're waiving the license fee ($20,000) but you are required to buy an "Evaluation Module" ($1500) which looks like a BB + extras to me.
  • [01:13:42] <javaJake> I'm going to be really crazy and assume this isn't something a consumer should try and buy on their own ;)
  • [01:13:58] <Puppy> och... not sure which one which one your looking at, the one i seen was free
  • [01:15:25] <javaJake> Puppy: http://www.go-dsp.com/forms/TIDigitalMediaSWCM/index.htm?DCMP=DSP_DigitalMediaSW&HQS=Other+OT+requestfreesoftware#PROD_CODECS
  • [01:16:06] <javaJake> Or perhaps they're just saying "look, you really DO need an OMAP35xx board for these"?
  • [01:18:19] <Puppy> for production , yea i can see that... and for different development boards aswell
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  • [01:20:30] <Puppy> you can ask for evaluation software, whatever that includes
  • [01:20:53] <javaJake> Hmm, yea
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  • [02:38:00] <guylhem_> hello - a quick question about debian installer. it's compalining about a lack of kernel modules, but I think I can fix that by hand after everything is installed
  • [02:38:31] <guylhem_> but for now I'm trying to work around the partition stuff. How can I tell the installer to use a single partition (mtd4) for / ?
  • [02:38:40] <guylhem_> no menu option no nothig
  • [02:40:06] <mtc> which installation method are you using guylhem_
  • [02:42:13] <guylhem_> I am currently following http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian because for some reason the uImage from BeagleBoardHandheldsMojo was refused ("Wrong Image Format for bootm command")
  • [02:45:05] <guylhem_> same problem mentionned on http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/b53d39c94aca48fc?pli=1
  • [02:52:25] <guylhem_> The problem is with "Guided - Use the largest continuous free space" mentionned in the wiki : I don't see that option anywhere !!!
  • [02:53:01] <guylhem_> So I can only go back to the debian installer.
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  • [09:41:46] <koen> ssvb: my understanding is that TI wants to get into the medical and alike markets where lifespan and stability are paramount
  • [09:41:59] <koen> ssvb: but I can run all my omap3s at 650MHz with troubles
  • [09:42:08] <koen> 700MHz on some, but not on others
  • [09:43:05] <eFfeM> morning koen
  • [09:43:19] <ssvb> koen: ok, thanks for the information
  • [09:44:12] <ssvb> do you mean *without* troubles at 650MHz? or what kind of troubles are these?
  • [09:44:30] <koen> without troubles
  • [09:44:44] <koen> and troubles like mysterious segfaults, crashes, reboots, etc
  • [09:45:03] <koen> eFfeM: actually, I've been up since 10 am saturday :)
  • [09:45:13] <eFfeM> pff
  • [09:45:20] <koen> eFfeM: http://batavierenrace.nl/ :D
  • [09:45:33] <koen> (/me didn;t run, though)
  • [09:45:45] <eFfeM> ah, I know batavierenrace, already existed when I was a student
  • [09:46:03] <koen> number 37
  • [09:46:07] <eFfeM> you would have surprised me if you ran
  • [09:46:29] <koen> technically 36 since foot&mouth disease killed one edition
  • [09:46:39] <koen> eFfeM: I ran the 9.6km in 2002, busted my knee doing so
  • [09:47:26] <eFfeM> ah, ok, not bad
  • [09:47:32] * eFfeM is not a runner
  • [09:47:51] <eFfeM> just started with ATB, much more fun imho
  • [09:49:55] * koen waits for parents and inlaws to arrive
  • [09:49:57] <koen> later all
  • [09:50:16] <eFfeM> cya & have fun!
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  • [10:02:53] <Peace50> hi all
  • [10:03:15] <eFfeM> hi
  • [10:04:41] <Peace50> i have an issue with unbutu on beagleboard
  • [10:05:54] <Peace50> unbuntu start but usb but the usb port not working
  • [10:07:00] <eFfeM> module not loaded? exceeded bus power?
  • [10:07:05] <eFfeM> otg or ehci?
  • [10:07:34] <Peace50> nop bus power
  • [10:07:57] <Peace50> power by usb
  • [10:08:32] <eFfeM> and ehci is not working?
  • [10:08:49] <Peace50> yes on start we have a error message /lib/modules/2.6.29.1-ore26/modules.dep
  • [10:09:18] <Peace50> i donc know if ehci it s working what s the ehci
  • [10:09:25] <eFfeM> if you bus power the board you have only about 100 mA left for the ehci port, which is not enough for lots of peripherals
  • [10:09:36] <eFfeM> what version board do you have?
  • [10:11:32] <Peace50> yes but on ??ngstr??m usb working fine
  • [10:11:50] <Peace50> C2
  • [10:12:06] <eFfeM> angstrom also bus powered?
  • [10:12:30] <Peace50> angstrom usb working fine
  • [10:12:57] <Peace50> unbuntu we don t have power
  • [10:13:32] <eFfeM> same u-boot ?
  • [10:13:46] <Peace50> nop
  • [10:14:05] <Peace50> wait
  • [10:14:28] <eFfeM> move to the u-boot that was working with angstrom
  • [10:14:29] <Peace50> u-boot it s image en fat32 or param
  • [10:14:43] <eFfeM> don't understand that!
  • [10:14:51] <eFfeM> i mean the image
  • [10:15:08] <Peace50> the uImage
  • [10:15:17] <eFfeM> older images do not know about the ehci port as rev B did not have working ehci
  • [10:15:18] <Peace50> on the fat32 driver
  • [10:15:38] <eFfeM> no it is u-boot.bin in the fat partition (or in the flash)
  • [10:15:48] <Peace50> ok
  • [10:16:56] <Peace50> so i take the uImage of angstrom
  • [10:17:02] <Peace50> i can t try
  • [10:17:33] <eFfeM> the uImage is the kernel
  • [10:17:41] <eFfeM> I suggest takeing the u-boot from angstrom
  • [10:18:49] <Peace50> yes, but could i use the angstrom kernel on unbuntu
  • [10:19:11] <eFfeM> technically yes
  • [10:19:39] <eFfeM> it will boot but there could be a mismatch wrt what kernel version and/or what drivers are built into the kernel
  • [10:19:42] <eFfeM> but you can always try
  • [10:19:50] <Peace50> do you have a link to download angstrom kernel
  • [10:19:52] <Peace50> yes
  • [10:20:08] <Peace50> yes i can t try
  • [10:20:13] <eFfeM> nope, never played with angstrom
  • [10:20:41] <Peace50> are you on unbuntu
  • [10:20:44] <eFfeM> oops
  • [10:20:50] <eFfeM> i did play with angstrom,
  • [10:20:56] <eFfeM> mixed things up with android
  • [10:21:10] <eFfeM> angstrom images can be constructed here: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/
  • [10:22:12] <eFfeM> gone for now, back later
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  • [11:39:34] <eFfeM> hi, i seem to recall it is possible to force the otg to host mode via /sys or so, but I forgot details. Anyone an idea ?
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  • [11:47:20] <Beagle7> newbie here
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  • [11:51:18] <dbb> Can anyone help with a dead beagle board situation?
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  • [11:54:06] <eFfeM> dbb check the recovery procedure on elinux.org/BeagleBoard
  • [11:54:46] <dbb> have its not working. I erased the nand flash, and now can't boot from the SD card
  • [11:55:04] <eFfeM> do you have serial?
  • [11:55:17] <dbb> yeah now I get nothing out the serial
  • [11:55:27] <eFfeM> not even 40T or so
  • [11:55:33] <dbb> no
  • [11:56:23] <eFfeM> then i have no idea, sorry
  • [11:57:05] <dbb> K cool. Should it beagle to work with nothing in the NAND. Or does the mmc need something in there to boot?
  • [11:57:31] <dbb> be able
  • [11:57:33] <eFfeM> i think the 40 should always be there
  • [11:57:48] <eFfeM> but if you really want to boot there should be something on sd/mmc
  • [11:59:06] <dbb> cool, sounds like I've erased something I shouldn't have then, lol, :(
  • [11:59:38] <eFfeM> you can erase all of the nand and you should still be able to boot from sd
  • [12:00:44] <dbb> ok cool, thats good news then, guess I'll have another look at my MLO file. Is there a way to guarantee its in the first sector
  • [12:01:06] <eFfeM> yes, take the sd card, format it, then copy mlo to it
  • [12:01:12] <eFfeM> and only mlo, so not multiple files
  • [12:01:20] <eFfeM> after copying mlo you can copy u-boot
  • [12:01:53] <eFfeM> you can also generate ain image with http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/ and use that
  • [12:03:15] <dbb> thanks, will give it another go.
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  • [12:05:14] <eFfeM> goodluck!
  • [12:05:50] <dbb> yeah thanks.
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  • [15:07:07] <eFfeM> or are there different u-boot settings needed for 2.6.26 ?
  • [15:07:12] <eFfeM> like start address
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  • [15:28:15] <eFfeM> found in the faq that i can force the otg port in hostmode with
  • [15:28:16] <eFfeM> echo host> /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
  • [15:28:33] <eFfeM> but there is no mode "file" in the musb_hdrc dir
  • [15:28:56] <eFfeM> how to force to host mode? this is 2.6.29 on C2 hw
  • [15:30:07] <eFfeM> kernel is compiled with CONFIG_USB_MUSB_OTG=y
  • [15:30:54] <eFfeM> CONFIG_USB_MUSB_HOST and CONFIG_USB_MUSB_PERIPHERAL are not set
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  • [17:31:53] <javaJake> eFfeM-away: you can't really force it if your BB is on USB power, not DC, IIRC
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  • [17:36:56] <javaJake> Anyone here tried to compile the latest linux-2.6 git?
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  • [17:37:46] <javaJake> I'm always getting the following error: ""2.6.30-rc3-omap1cat:include/config/kernel.release:Nosuchfileordirectory" exceeds 64 characters"
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  • [17:44:34] <javaJake> Ah, wait, nvm, /dev wasn't mound --binded :P
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  • [18:31:26] <eFfeM> javaJake: thanks for your reply, but my bb is on dc
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  • [19:55:49] <rob_k> Hi, I'm using angstrom console-image and I'm trying to add whole gcc and g++ toolchain. Is there some easy trick to do that, not by adding many packages. Maybe by adding one pkg which depends on all other?
  • [19:56:34] <mru> there is, but I don't remember the name
  • [19:56:42] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [19:56:46] <Crofton|work> urg what is it
  • [19:56:56] <mru> toolchain-native or something
  • [19:57:47] <Crofton|work> opkg install task-native-sdk cpp gccmakedep
  • [19:57:57] <Crofton|work> I found that in an email ....
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  • [19:58:13] <rob_k> ok, thanks :)
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  • [20:04:38] <Crofton|work> let me know if it works
  • [20:04:56] <Crofton|work> not everything you read on the internet is true
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  • [20:15:05] <rob_k> ok
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  • [20:35:25] <likewise> rob_k: also, building helloworld works.
  • [20:35:27] <likewise> rob_k: i.e. "bitbake helloworld"
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  • [20:50:43] <rob_k> Crofton|work opkg install task-native-sdk cpp gccmakedep works fine.
  • [20:50:59] <Crofton|work> awesome
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  • [20:51:15] <Crofton|work> the beagle is useful for native builds of simple apps :)
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  • [21:09:50] <ssvb> Crofton|work: beagle should be useful for native builds of practically all apps :) it has HW specs almost precisely matching my desktop PC that I used to run gentoo linux 1.2 maybe 6 years ago
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  • [21:10:50] <ssvb> of course there are ways to make the compiler hog too much memory, especially with C++
  • [21:11:06] <Crofton|work> well, you'll have memory limits etc
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  • [21:15:55] <javaJake> Crofton|work: nothing a little swapon won't fix ;)
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  • [21:17:24] <mru> you'll need a lot of swapon to compile c++ on beagle
  • [21:17:43] <ZeZu> raid0 w/ sd cards (haha)
  • [21:17:48] <mru> I've seen g++ use well over a gigabyte of ram at times
  • [21:18:37] <ZeZu> i've seen it over 4gb, (using -j4 tho )
  • [21:18:51] <mru> I use -j8 ...
  • [21:18:52] <ZeZu> never had anymore reason to make it go any further
  • [21:18:54] <ZeZu> would be nice
  • [21:18:59] <ZeZu> ah must be nice :)
  • [21:19:03] <mru> so far my 6GB ram have been enough
  • [21:19:12] <ZeZu> quad core w/ hyperthreading or dual quad core board ?
  • [21:19:17] <mru> i7
  • [21:19:27] <mru> so hyperthreaded quad
  • [21:19:31] <ZeZu> yea
  • [21:19:42] <mru> make -j8 gives a speedup of about 6x
  • [21:19:44] * bkero isn't sure whether it's appropriate to use -j8 or -j16 with i7's.
  • [21:19:53] <ZeZu> how is that i7? i've been holding off on pc hardware for a while now
  • [21:20:24] <mru> it's fast
  • [21:20:36] <ZeZu> maybe when larrabee comes out and ssds are cheap enough where i can get two of the good intel drives for a raid0 array ... i'll be more apt to shell out some $ for a new pc
  • [21:22:48] <likewise> ZeZu: larrabee will then be pricy though
  • [21:23:37] <ZeZu> tis true
  • [21:23:41] <ZeZu> we'll see
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  • [21:24:06] <ZeZu> I want to have a bit of fun with raytracing when it does hit
  • [21:24:22] <likewise> :-)
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  • [21:33:10] <javaJake> Wow, I'm having nothing but bad luck trying to compile linux-2.6 :P
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  • [21:38:31] <javaJake> Can anyone recommend a tag that works? :P
  • [21:38:50] <mru> whatever angstrom builds
  • [21:39:13] <javaJake> Hm
  • [21:39:21] <javaJake> I'm using Gentoo, so.
  • [21:40:01] <mru> you can still check what tag angstrom builds and use that
  • [21:42:01] <javaJake> I don't know how :P
  • [21:42:09] <javaJake> I don't understand "bitbake" - never touched it
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  • [21:42:34] <mru> bitbake ~= emerge
  • [21:43:04] <javaJake> Where's the "repository"?
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  • [21:52:22] <mru> http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/tree/recipes/linux/linux-omap_2.6.29.bb
  • [21:54:03] <javaJake> OK, thanks
  • [21:57:53] <Downix> Ok, my ideas for a portable beagleboard just turned weird in a cool way
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  • [22:00:06] <mru> I'm listening
  • [22:00:22] <mru> the beagle board look rather portable as is...
  • [22:01:32] <Downix> I found a USB battery/solar cell system
  • [22:05:20] <mru> ah
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  • [22:38:55] <Downix> by my calcs, the system can run for 5 hours on the battery, and charges up if you lay it out all day
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  • [23:22:10] <javaJake> mru: beauty! It's compiled with default config, thanks!
  • [23:22:29] * javaJake tries it with LED support added
  • [23:22:48] <mru> thank koen
  • [23:24:03] <javaJake> koen: thanks ;
  • [23:24:15] <javaJake> *;)
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  • [23:36:54] <javaJake> Alright, it compiled that too! Yes yes yes!
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