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  • [00:04:22] <jix> brianski: IIRC compiling the kernel with n cpus (and parallel make) gives nearly linear speedup because the kernel is made of a lot of rather small c files that can be compiled independently
  • [00:04:35] <jix> brianski: so i'd say it will be significantly faster
  • [00:05:17] <jix> (at least for full compiles, for small changes/recompiles the linking time will be more relevant)
  • [00:05:19] <brianski> jix: ahh, good point
  • [00:06:06] <brianski> so for that matter building in an emulated arm qemu w/ ncpus=2 might be faster..
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  • [00:09:33] <brianski> does anyone know of a good benchmark besides kernel compiles (which i don't trust given the amount of arch-dependent stuff that goes on) ? i used to use ubench, but now tickless kernels mean ubench won't build or give meaningful output
  • [00:10:42] <jix> hmmm doesn't ffmpeg come with a suite of selftests?
  • [00:11:09] <jix> at least that one was used to find quite some compiler bugs for arm... i can imagine it could be a good benchmark too
  • [00:11:18] <brianski> hmm, sounds fpu heavy
  • [00:11:48] <jix> in addition to that you could try some complex compressors like PAQ
  • [00:12:13] <brianski> yeah i've been using gzip on a file pulled from /dev/urandom
  • [00:12:52] <jix> well with random data and gzip you basically make gzip doing nothing
  • [00:12:58] <jix> so i'd use real data if it was for benchmarking
  • [00:13:25] <jix> the deflate algorithm will find no long runs and thus never encodes a match and basically reverts to memcpy
  • [00:13:42] <brianski> jix - memcpy is a useful benchmark too :-)
  • [00:14:02] <jix> yeah but you can do that easier ;)
  • [00:14:08] <brianski> :-P
  • [00:14:20] <brianski> actually gzip -0 is store only isn't it?
  • [00:14:26] <jix> paq is quite interesting because it uses stuff like hashtables etc...
  • [00:14:32] <jix> it updates neural networks
  • [00:14:38] <jix> does quite some table lookups
  • [00:14:38] <brianski> i dunno paq
  • [00:14:43] <brianski> does it do better than lzma?
  • [00:14:46] <jix> a lot
  • [00:14:52] <jix> but it is very slow
  • [00:14:59] <jix> and is very big
  • [00:15:02] <brianski> hmm
  • [00:15:09] <brianski> better than lzma -9 ?
  • [00:15:12] <jix> yes
  • [00:15:28] <jix> lzma doesn't do very good
  • [00:15:33] <brianski> uh
  • [00:15:38] <brianski> lzma kicks gzip's ass
  • [00:15:41] <jix> it just has a very good speed / compression tradeoff
  • [00:15:41] <brianski> are you thinking of lzop ?
  • [00:15:46] <jix> yeah gzip does very bad
  • [00:15:48] <brianski> yeah you're thinking of lzop
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  • [00:15:54] <brianski> lzma is better than bzip2
  • [00:15:56] <jix> no i know lzma i did quite some compression coding
  • [00:16:05] <jix> brianski: they all aren't very good
  • [00:16:09] <jix> but they are fast that's why they are used
  • [00:16:33] <jix> paq is at least 100 times slower than gzip
  • [00:16:44] <jix> that just isn't practical for day to day usage
  • [00:16:54] <jix> that's why they are a) not widely used and thus b) not popular
  • [00:17:09] <jix> they are more kind of research compressors
  • [00:17:32] <brianski> gotcha
  • [00:17:57] <jix> i actually implemented a compressor that beats lzma myself.... but it's downside is the memory usage.... for 64kb of data it takes hundereds of mb of ram
  • [00:18:13] <jix> but the decompression code fits in 240 bytes of x86 assembler
  • [00:18:15] <brianski> but i was under the impression that those sorts of algorithms didn't do well as "general purpose" compressors - ie on some datasets they just basicaly did nothing
  • [00:18:37] <brianski> well un-lzma'ing is a pretty simple algorithm iirc
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  • [00:18:48] <jix> brianski: it is ok... i think 2k x86 code
  • [00:18:49] <brianski> un lz-anything i guess is
  • [00:19:06] <jix> lzma-flow is the smallest un lzma i know of
  • [00:19:34] <jix> used it to generate ultra small mac os x executables before coming up with my algorithm
  • [00:20:10] <jix> lzma basically is like gzip but replace huffman coding with an arithmetic coder and an intelligent model
  • [00:20:32] <jix> all better compression algorithms are just an arithmetic coder and an intelligent model
  • [00:20:46] <jix> turned out LZ actually hurts compression.... but it makes it a lot faster
  • [00:20:54] <brianski> eh?
  • [00:21:14] <brianski> you mean with a sufficiently smart arith coder and model?
  • [00:21:19] <jix> yeah
  • [00:21:33] <brianski> what i like about lz* algorithms are there simplicity
  • [00:21:42] <brianski> also my pops is one of the S's in LZSS, so i guess i'm partial
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  • [00:24:32] <jix> but yeah for everyday use i guess lzma is pretty optimal
  • [00:25:06] <brianski> jix: i use lzop when i have very compressible data or a slow cpu, lzma when i need max compression, and gzip when i need max compatibility
  • [00:25:47] <brianski> how long would it take to paq a 8GB disk (well, SDHC) image?
  • [00:25:53] <jix> hmm
  • [00:26:51] <brianski> hours, days, weeks, or more?
  • [00:27:00] <jix> looking up some benchmarks right now
  • [00:27:28] <jix> 56993ns/byte
  • [00:27:50] <jix> (medium time needed per byte for 1gb of wikipedia)
  • [00:28:11] <brianski> jix: where are the benchmarks you're citing?
  • [00:28:18] <jix> http://www.cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/text.html
  • [00:28:32] <brianski> thx
  • [00:28:32] <jix> paq8hp12any was the version that number is from
  • [00:28:43] <jix> http://www.cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/ << is the official paq site
  • [00:28:56] <jix> but note that all paq versions are incompatible to each other..... another reason no one uses them ^^
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  • [00:38:07] <sakoman_> brianski: I've been seeing the 'Spurious irq 95' for quite a while.
  • [00:38:25] <sakoman_> it is still there with 2.6.29-rc3 and the most recent u-boot
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  • [00:41:30] <brianski> sakoman_: bummer
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  • [00:50:36] <bmxr> try to keep it clean developer...
  • [00:50:44] <developer> LOL
  • [00:51:00] <developer> thanks a lot for the help
  • [00:51:07] <developer> i gotta go
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  • [01:04:00] <brianski> has anyone succeeded in running a debian/arm (not armel) install on beagleboard?
  • [01:05:48] <brianski> hmm, lshw bombs with "bus error" when run with su privs, but provides partial output ok without
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  • [02:32:58] <davidwang> Hi,does anyone know well HDMI on beagleboard?
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  • [03:04:00] <gregoiregentil> How can I use DSS2 with TFTDATALINES=18bits? I tried to patch (force) dispc_set_tft_data_lines in dispc.c but it doesn't seem to work. Any idea?
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  • [07:26:14] <tomba> gregoiregentil: isn't that defined in the board file's display config
  • [07:31:33] <tomba> although I'm not sure why anyone would want 18bit tft datalines. with 16bpp it's of no use, with 24bpp you'll get only slightly better colors but lot worse memory consumption and bandwidth need
  • [07:32:57] <gregoiregentil> tomba: you're right and in the future, I will do 24 bit. but I have some hardware that I would like to make work and it's physically 18 bit
  • [07:33:41] <tomba> it doesn't work with 16bit datalines? I think it should work fine. but I guess it depends.
  • [07:33:48] <gregoiregentil> I have changed .u.dpi.data_lines = 18 in omap_display_data beagle_display_data_dvi in board-omap3beagle.c
  • [07:33:58] <gregoiregentil> but it's the same
  • [07:34:21] <tomba> umm so do you have a custom LCD connected to beagle?
  • [07:34:26] <gregoiregentil> also, I forced DISPC_CONTROL in dispc.c to code=2 for TFTDATALINE
  • [07:34:29] <gregoiregentil> yes
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  • [07:34:46] <gregoiregentil> and I check that this value is applied. I do a check at the end of the initialization of the driver
  • [07:34:49] <raster> tomba: 24bpp vs 16bpp is a huge difference
  • [07:34:56] <raster> tomba: in display quality
  • [07:34:58] <raster> and speed
  • [07:35:10] <raster> with 16bpp to get equivalent quality of 24bpp i ned to dither
  • [07:35:12] <raster> and thats costly
  • [07:35:18] <gregoiregentil> and I see that it's the right 18-bit value but the physical output is still 24bit matrix
  • [07:35:26] <tomba> raster: but this was about 16 vs 18 =)
  • [07:35:30] <raster> as such performance is a little better with 24/32bpp as the math is just simply easier
  • [07:35:33] <raster> ooh ok
  • [07:35:35] <raster> yeah
  • [07:35:39] <raster> 18bpp vs 16 is silly
  • [07:35:43] <raster> agreed
  • [07:35:50] <tomba> gregoiregentil: hmm what do you mean?
  • [07:35:53] <raster> 18 also just doesnt pack nicely
  • [07:35:55] <raster> 16 does
  • [07:35:57] <raster> 24/2 do
  • [07:36:02] <raster> err 24/32
  • [07:36:08] <raster> but 18 just wastes
  • [07:36:16] <raster> get a better lcd that does 24bpp
  • [07:36:17] <tomba> raster: well, it's not that the framebuffer would be 18bit, but the datalines to tft
  • [07:36:17] <raster> :)
  • [07:36:29] <raster> yeah
  • [07:36:38] <raster> but that means u effectively only can display 6bit per rgb
  • [07:36:52] <raster> whih means u likely would either upsample from rgb565 (16bit)
  • [07:36:59] <raster> or just throw away 2 bits from rgb24
  • [07:37:16] <raster> ie 6.2.6.2.6.2
  • [07:37:19] <ds2> think the hardware will handle that conversion
  • [07:37:23] <raster> (where the 2's are just padding)
  • [07:37:37] <tomba> gregoiregentil: the framebuffer mode is totally separate from the tftdatalines setting. or what do you mean with "output is still 24bit matrix"?
  • [07:37:47] <raster> but to get good display quality the softwar eneeds to be aware that only 6 out of 8 bits are displayable
  • [07:37:56] <raster> so it probably shoudl dither in 18bpp
  • [07:38:20] <ds2> raster: sure the hw doesn't do that automatically?
  • [07:38:35] <tomba> so the omap HW supports either 16bpp or 24/32bpp framebuffers. but LCDs can be connected with 16/18/24 datalines. HW does the conversion.
  • [07:38:53] <raster> ds2: hw dither? not last i knew
  • [07:39:00] <tomba> so from SW point of view there's no 18bpp mode
  • [07:39:15] <raster> tomba: you need to "Fake" the 18bpp mode
  • [07:39:18] <raster> but dithering in 24bpp
  • [07:39:31] <raster> and assuming the lsb 2 bits are unused
  • [07:39:33] <ds2> raster: don't see why it can't do it between frames or some other tricks like that
  • [07:41:04] <tomba> I think internally OMAP handles the colors always in 24bpp. they are first converted to that, and then converted to the output mode
  • [07:43:05] <raster> ds2: you mean flicker? ugh! i've done that befoire.. long ago. no thanks
  • [07:43:09] <raster> and at best u get 1 more bit
  • [07:44:12] <ds2> it isn't that bad... there were some hacks used on the Atari 8bit like that
  • [07:48:02] <raster> yeah
  • [07:48:06] <raster> amiga land too
  • [07:48:22] <raster> totally evil stuff
  • [07:48:35] <raster> at least in this day and age 24bit tft panels are out there
  • [07:48:37] <raster> and easy to find
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  • [08:34:14] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/project/ALIP/ was edited by kulve.myopenid.com
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  • [10:03:08] <koen> heh
  • [10:03:16] <koen> I uploaded http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/2346626459/ one year ago
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  • [11:21:32] <felipec> anyone knows about gnu ld?
  • [11:21:42] <felipec> I'm having issues with symbol visibility
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  • [12:08:48] <felipec> ah --version-script
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  • [12:13:23] <jix_> wahoo now i have an lzma compressed kernel on my beagle board
  • [12:13:49] <jix_> and i noticed and fixed a bug in the patches from Alain Knaff that enable this
  • [12:15:05] <garren> koen: trying to download the latest jack from there website I get a checksum error how do I resolve that?
  • [12:17:16] <koen> garren: redownload
  • [12:17:35] <koen> jix_: now send that patch upstream :)
  • [12:18:34] <jix_> koen: where do i have to send it?
  • [12:18:51] <koen> jix_: I guess alain knaiff
  • [12:18:57] <jix_> ok
  • [12:19:05] <koen> garren: ah, you mean you added a new recipe?
  • [12:20:19] <koen> garren: in case of a new recipe you much add the checksums to conf/checksums.ini
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  • [12:24:24] <garren> koen: the old jack recipe downlaoded from sourceforge but the new releases are from a different download location so no checksums.
  • [12:24:56] <garren> koen: They have a tar.gz and svn which is better to download from for oE
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  • [12:39:33] <Crofton> http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/?saved=1
  • [12:39:38] <Crofton> See latest slides :)
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  • [12:43:21] <RogerMonk> Crofton - nice! - what demos did you show in the end?
  • [12:43:48] <Crofton> Florian has a beagle with DLP
  • [12:43:59] <Crofton> I forgot the overo today, but things are slower
  • [12:44:06] <RogerMonk> and SDR software?
  • [12:44:07] <Crofton> also got interest in the Overo
  • [12:44:17] <Crofton> not showing that
  • [12:44:27] <Crofton> this is a pretty general audience :)
  • [12:44:37] <RogerMonk> yep
  • [12:44:41] <Crofton> next year I wnt to have something I can show to non-specialists
  • [12:45:01] <RogerMonk> looks like you had fun too
  • [12:45:03] <Crofton> PM for OMAP3 talk in 15 minutes
  • [12:45:04] <RogerMonk> shame I missed it
  • [12:45:07] * koen is building OGRE3D for beagle
  • [12:45:52] <RogerMonk> Crofton - enjoy the rest of the day
  • [12:45:56] <RogerMonk> flying back tomorrow?
  • [12:46:08] <Crofton> yes
  • [12:46:10] <RogerMonk> (or stopping to see us in the UK?)
  • [12:46:44] <Crofton> sorry need to get back and make a comelling demo
  • [12:46:56] <RogerMonk> next time :)
  • [12:47:01] <Crofton> yes
  • [12:47:10] <Crofton> need to visit some relatives at some potin
  • [12:47:16] <Crofton> ok need to get going
  • [12:47:18] <Crofton> bbl
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  • [13:04:52] <davidwang> anybody can tell me how to connect tfp410(hdmi transmitor)with DM355?
  • [13:05:09] <mru> with wires ;-)
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  • [13:07:09] <eFfeM> backreading
  • [13:07:27] * eFfeM also likes florian's projected kbd
  • [13:08:09] <koen> hey mru
  • [13:08:23] <koen> mru: how's fosdem treating you?
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  • [13:15:57] <mru> hey
  • [13:16:10] <mru> lots of embedded interest here
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  • [13:24:03] <koen> RogerMonk: how's the snow?
  • [13:25:56] <koen> any C++ people around?
  • [13:26:03] <koen> I'm facing this problem:
  • [13:26:04] <koen> OgreEGLWindow.cpp:185: error: conversion from 'std::vector<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, Ogre::STLAllocator<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, Ogre::CategorisedAllocPolicy<MEMCATEGORY_GENERAL> > >' to non-scalar type 'std::vector<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, std::allocator<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::alloc
  • [13:26:29] * eFfeM would also have problems doing such a conversion :-)
  • [13:26:55] <koen> would adding a Ogre::STLAllocator to the file help?
  • [13:27:01] <koen> that's the only difference I spot
  • [13:30:16] <eFfeM> is it possible make a recipe for a package that normally uses cmake ?
  • [13:33:58] <mru> inherit assassin; target $package_author;
  • [13:34:48] <mru> koen, eFfeM: that covers both problems
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  • [13:54:47] <koen> close :)
  • [13:54:56] <koen> eFfeM: inherit cmake should do the trick
  • [13:58:50] <eFfeM> koen, mru, thanks; will give it a try
  • [13:59:12] * eFfeM became interested in Wt after attending the Wt talk at fosdem yesterday
  • [13:59:32] <eFfeM> http://www.webtoolkit.eu/wt
  • [14:03:01] <koen> garren: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=abeccf37ac8f5679abeddc9382b9d0e86df4f139
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  • [14:07:31] <likewise> eFfeM: me too
  • [14:09:09] <likewise> eFfeM: stupid we didn't meet.you trying to get wt in oe?
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  • [14:12:49] <eFfeM> likewise: yes i want to try to get it into oe
  • [14:13:31] <eFfeM> maybe work on it tonight, now still testing some stuff for next term novell lab (having isuses with two vm's communicating :-( )
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  • [14:17:21] <mib_8b8zt8> has anybody had any success running emulators on the beagle board?
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  • [14:17:40] <kulve> what emulators? At least vice runs nicely
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  • [14:18:05] <mib_8b8zt8> snes, nes, atari, etc.
  • [14:19:51] <mib_8b8zt8> what i'm saying is, can an operating system be installed on the thing?
  • [14:19:57] <mib_8b8zt8> such as windows or linux
  • [14:20:57] <kulve> I didn't quite understand the question. I run linux on my beagle and I have vice installed in it. And I can run giana sisters just fine..
  • [14:22:49] <mib_8b8zt8> Ok, so you can take ZSNES (for which there is a linux version) and play Snes games correct? It has the power to do so?
  • [14:23:35] <kulve> I don't know about anything else than the vice as that's the only one I've tried
  • [14:24:26] <eFfeM> koen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/3260052225/?addedcomment=1#preview
  • [14:24:48] <koen> Isn't that illegal? AFAIK ripping of *NES roms violates copyright
  • [14:25:15] <koen> eFfeM: aaaaah, broonie
  • [14:25:52] <eFfeM> koen, not my knowlegde, just tossed the url in #oe and asked for names
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  • [14:27:27] <mib_8b8zt8> it's not illegal so long as you own the original game.
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  • [14:31:32] <eFfeM> gone for a while, back later
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  • [14:31:39] <garren> koen: awesome.. my first OE patch woohoo
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  • [15:31:16] <jix_> he will have fun trying to get zsnes on the beagle :/ ... 80% of it is x86 assembler
  • [15:32:07] <jix_> and regarding copyright ripping is legal almost everywhere (they don't have copy protection) but downloading isn't.. even if you own the original
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  • [15:40:44] <jkridner> kulve: thanks for the linux.onarm.com project entry
  • [15:41:56] <kulve> jkridner: hopefully somebody finds it useful :)
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  • [16:06:43] <koen> hmmm
  • [16:06:45] <koen> snowflakes
  • [16:10:04] <like2wise> koen: it was hail here
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  • [16:10:39] <koen> like2wise: is burssels?
  • [16:11:51] <like2wise> koen: no, ehv. got back yday evening
  • [16:12:36] <koen> ah, right you mentioned that already
  • [16:12:36] <kulve> snow situation in Finland: http://www.fmi.fi/img/saa/Lumikartta.gif
  • [16:12:48] <kulve> too bad it's raining now :/
  • [16:12:53] <favor> hi. we have a problem when compiling console-image, please help us. the error located at http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/1a8447aa6ce60b2e
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  • [16:15:32] <zuh> koen: have you recently tested I420 with x-v-o? it sems to have stopped working for n8x0 (freezes X) so I was wondering if it's a generic problem or a blizzard one...
  • [16:16:17] <kulve> I think it's s,freezes,segfaults,?
  • [16:16:25] <koen> favor: have you checked whether libpcap declares bluez-libs as dependency?
  • [16:16:57] <koen> zuh: ef0b41c332a710fb33f996df77bd4a96b56878da + neon patch works for me
  • [16:17:11] <koen> zuh: I can display a webcam stream literally for days :)
  • [16:17:17] <zuh> kulve: could be
  • [16:18:03] <favor> koen: no, I haven't. let me see, wait a moment.
  • [16:18:04] <zuh> koen: yeah, so something n8x0 specific then
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  • [16:20:40] <favor> koen: I check libpcap.inc file, it don't have declares bluez-libs as its dependency. I add it and try to rebuild now.
  • [16:24:06] <zuh> koen: you should be able to ditch the patch now that the neon stuff is in x-v-o git, right?
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  • [17:03:54] <koen> zuh: right, I hadn't noticed the autofoo commit yet
  • [17:04:30] <koen> RogerMonk: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2580069&group_id=2997&atid=302997
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  • [17:20:02] <garren> anyone know that this means in the makefile, it give me an error on a new package I'm trying to build: gcc -march= switch
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  • [17:49:00] <kulve> koen: the autofoo commit doesn't do anything yet
  • [17:49:16] <kulve> I have the missing parts in my repo but I haven't had the time to test it :/
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  • [17:54:13] <zuh> ah, right, I forgot that the function wasn't plugged in yet...
  • [17:54:35] <garren> is this an acceptable line for OE and gcc or must march be something else: $(CXX) -O3 -march=native -ffast-math `pkg-config --cflags --libs jack gtk+-2.0 sndfile` main.cpp -o guitarix
  • [17:54:36] <garren> ??
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  • [17:55:03] <koen> -march=native?
  • [17:55:39] <garren> yeah what should that be?
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  • [17:56:28] <koen> something gcc supports :)
  • [17:56:57] <garren> :-) -march is the machine architecture right?
  • [17:56:57] <koen> this lists the ones for arm: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/ARM-Options.html
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  • [17:58:44] <garren> yes so this is a arm7a: `armv7', `armv7-a', `armv7-r', `armv7-m' so which one looks best :-)
  • [17:59:09] <koen> the -a one
  • [17:59:30] <koen> that's only valid for armv7-a chips
  • [17:59:53] <garren> cool I'll try that
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  • [18:11:24] <koen> sweet
  • [18:11:37] <koen> ogre3d finished building against the sgx libs
  • [18:11:59] <eFfeM> nice
  • [18:12:02] <garren> cool
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  • [18:12:19] <koen> anyone know of a cool ogre3d project?
  • [18:12:22] * eFfeM is struggling with boost and GNU_HASH errors
  • [18:12:32] <koen> the ogre3d site is being rebuilt, so not much there
  • [18:12:43] <koen> eFfeM: gnu hash errors means it ignores LDFLAGS
  • [18:13:12] <eFfeM> koen, i know, I've tried to add it; boost uses a build system called bjam :-(
  • [18:13:20] <koen> eFfeM: the easiest fix: TARGET_CC_ARCH += " ${LDFLAGS}"
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  • [18:13:48] <koen> that moves the ldflags to the -march=armv7a bit
  • [18:14:00] <eFfeM> koen, will try that if the change I just made and which is now compiling does not work
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  • [18:15:46] * koen has a look at https://www.ohloh.net/tags/ogre/
  • [18:16:18] <jkridner> koen: why not try ioquake3 on dogless?
  • [18:16:36] <koen> does dogless actualloy work?
  • [18:17:11] * koen notes that dogless hasn't seen activity for >5 years
  • [18:17:22] <jkridner> oh. :(
  • [18:17:36] <koen> "Last Update: Jan 24 2004"
  • [18:18:18] <jkridner> people keep making queries about GL instead of GLES. not sure what other wrappers there are besides dogless.
  • [18:18:32] <eFfeM> that either means it is perfect :-) or that it is orphaned :-(
  • [18:18:32] <koen> there's one for maemo
  • [18:19:12] <jkridner> http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=45129
  • [18:19:38] <jkridner> "Its complete enough to run quakeI/II, however much of the functionality is still missing. Would probably be a good starting point."
  • [18:19:55] <jkridner> doesn't sound completely informed, but slightly encouraging
  • [18:20:11] <koen> jkridner: the PDF claims q3 support
  • [18:20:19] <koen> jkridner: but it only has a .vcproj file
  • [18:21:15] <jkridner> further in that thread... http://www.unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/projects/maemo/
  • [18:21:46] <kulve> if people as for OpenGL and they get it through some wrapper, the next thing they will be asking is why the performance is so bad
  • [18:21:51] <kulve> s,as,ask,
  • [18:22:12] <Crofton> jkridner, info for GSoC 2009 should be posted tomorrow
  • [18:22:20] <jkridner> glesport looks to be last updated in 2007.
  • [18:22:34] <jkridner> k. I don't know when we need to submit project ideas.
  • [18:22:37] <jkridner> is there still time?
  • [18:22:47] <koen> jkridner: http://muksuluuri.ath.cx/~skyostil/git/?p=glesport.git
  • [18:23:01] <jkridner> koen: exactly. was just there.
  • [18:24:08] * koen git clone http://muksuluuri.ath.cx/~skyostil/git/glesport.git
  • [18:25:15] <koen> jkridner: the intel OS centre is cleaning up the poulsbo (==sgx535) driver to work with a recent X, maybe that can get reused for sgx530
  • [18:25:50] <Crofton> jkridner, SHould know tomorrow, I think mentoring org apps open March 9, or close March 9 :)
  • [18:25:58] <Crofton> I think close
  • [18:26:19] <jkridner> I thought a recent X was already there, no?
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  • [18:29:44] <vu3rdd`> jkridner: if you have time, can we go thru the ccs setup?
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  • [18:30:08] <jkridner> let's give it a shot.
  • [18:30:19] <jkridner> CCS v3.3 or v4?
  • [18:30:40] <jkridner> DSP out of reset?
  • [18:30:42] <vu3rdd`> v3.3
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  • [18:30:52] <vu3rdd`> Let me boot into windows
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  • [18:31:37] <vu3rdd`> yes, I could run the example codec engine program
  • [18:31:59] <vu3rdd`> I will login back from windows
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  • [18:35:56] <koen> jkridner: looking at what was needed to get it to build, no, there was no version for recent X
  • [18:36:19] <jkridner> so, you have it working with an old X?
  • [18:36:19] <koen> jkridner: if only IMGtec would create an opengl2.x sdk for the 530 :/
  • [18:36:33] <koen> I have no poulsbo machine
  • [18:36:42] <koen> I only saw the patches needed to get it to work
  • [18:36:50] <koen> and even then, it requires a binary blob
  • [18:37:01] <jkridner> what does poulsbo have that isn't available for 530?
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  • [18:37:58] <koen> DRM integration into the kernel
  • [18:38:19] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/resources/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
  • [18:38:28] <koen> it seems nokia tried to integrate the poulsbo DRM stuff into their sgx530 kernel drivers
  • [18:41:31] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/resources/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
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  • [18:42:32] * jkridner really needs to fix that bug in repeat notfications.
  • [18:42:44] <jkridner> notifications
  • [18:43:41] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/resources/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
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  • [18:45:22] <vu3rdd> jkridner, I am back. Booted into windows and ran a CE test app, I guess that brings DSP out of reset..
  • [18:45:31] <jkridner> great.
  • [18:45:47] <jkridner> are you using CCSv3.3 (with SR10 or newer) or CCSv4?
  • [18:45:58] <vu3rdd> v3.3 with service release 11
  • [18:46:35] <vu3rdd> btw, I am running vista
  • [18:47:00] <jkridner> k. launch CCS Setup
  • [18:47:14] <vu3rdd> done
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  • [18:48:27] <jkridner> do you already have it setup for the OMAP3 scan chain?
  • [18:48:34] <vu3rdd> No
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  • [18:51:02] <jkridner> k. Trying to get the menus in front of me so that I can guide, but the XP machine is thrashing.
  • [18:51:17] <jkridner> should be coming up soon
  • [18:52:01] <jkridner> k, select the "Create Board" tab.
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  • [18:52:29] <vu3rdd> ok
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  • [18:52:37] <jkridner> Click "XDS100 USB Emulator" and then click "<< Add"
  • [18:52:59] <vu3rdd> ok
  • [18:53:11] <jkridner> Give it a name like "OMAP35x-C64x+ XDS100 USB Emulator" and click "Next >"
  • [18:53:29] <vu3rdd> ok, with auto-generate board data selected?
  • [18:53:45] <jkridner> leave the other defaults, yes.
  • [18:54:01] <vu3rdd> ok. done
  • [18:54:02] <jkridner> on the next screen click "Finish".
  • [18:54:08] <vu3rdd> ok
  • [18:55:59] <jkridner> I'm not 100% on this next step, but I think what you want to add is an ICEPICK_C.
  • [18:56:30] <vu3rdd> ok
  • [18:57:01] <jkridner> stupid power outages.
  • [18:57:02] <vu3rdd> I had seen this screenshot while experimenting.. not sure if it will help refresh your memory: http://www.magniel.com/yuli/omap3_jtag.jpg
  • [18:57:03] <jkridner> must be working on the power lines.
  • [18:57:10] * jkridner is happy to have a UPS.
  • [18:57:34] <eFfeM> koen your suggestion fixed the GNU_HASH warnings
  • [18:57:40] <eFfeM> only one thing left: NOTE: Multiple libraries (libboost_unit_test_framework-mt.so, libboost_prg_exec_monitor-mt.so) found and LEAD_SONAME not defined
  • [18:57:50] <eFfeM> do you also have an idea for that one ?
  • [18:57:54] <jkridner> that is a bit ugly.
  • [18:58:05] <jkridner> we'll do a simpler, cleaner setup than that.
  • [18:58:14] <koen> eFfeM: that one is harmless
  • [18:58:28] <eFfeM> ah ok, so i'' ignore
  • [18:58:33] <koen> eFfeM: it's telling you the debian shlib renamer has found 2 libs in one package and asks you to pick one
  • [18:58:35] <jkridner> vu3rdd: did you add the ICEPICK_C?
  • [18:58:42] <koen> eFfeM: safe to ignore
  • [18:58:44] <jkridner> number of subpaths should be 1.
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  • [18:59:05] * koen wonders if qt4 supports GLES
  • [18:59:16] <rkrishnan> jkridner, sorry DSL outages here as well
  • [18:59:37] <jkridner> on the "Subpath Properties", the port number is 0x11. That is the most critical bit of information.
  • [19:00:27] <rkrishnan> where is subpath properties?
  • [19:00:56] <garren> in my images directory what are the modules tar files?
  • [19:01:01] <jkridner> did you start the process of adding the "ICEPICK_C"?
  • [19:01:21] <rkrishnan> yes
  • [19:01:35] <jkridner> did you hit "Next >" on the first screen?
  • [19:01:37] <rkrishnan> something called processer properties came up
  • [19:01:52] <jkridner> do you mean "Router Properties"?
  • [19:02:02] <jkridner> you should have been adding a router, not a processor.
  • [19:02:30] <rkrishnan> oh.. I don't see that
  • [19:03:31] <rkrishnan> after clicking finish, you asked me to add ICEPICK_C.. now << ADD is not active unless I select one of the two items in the middle column.
  • [19:03:40] * jkridner should probably go ahead and produce some screenshots and send them to flickr.
  • [19:03:58] <rkrishnan> Middle column lists TMS320C2800 and Bypass
  • [19:04:29] <jkridner> better yet, I should share my .ccs file.
  • [19:04:58] <jkridner> oh, so it doesn't show ICEPICK_C or TMS320C674X?
  • [19:04:59] <rkrishnan> Yes, but I am curious how you got the subpath properties
  • [19:05:04] <rkrishnan> No
  • [19:05:36] <rkrishnan> My version of XDS100_RTM was 1.1 if I remember right
  • [19:05:40] <jkridner> sounds like you haven't installed the OMAP support into CCS.
  • [19:05:54] <rkrishnan> oh...
  • [19:06:19] <rkrishnan> so uninstall my CCS and start all over again?
  • [19:06:54] <rkrishnan> I do not remember to have unselected anything from default CCS installation
  • [19:07:01] <jkridner> no, we'll try to add it.
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  • [19:08:06] <jkridner> I'm going to start CCS and go to the Update Advisor page.
  • [19:08:09] <rkrishnan> I see omap gel files on my CCS installation though..
  • [19:08:31] <koen> garren: a tarball of all kernel modules, to make it easier for people who dislike opkg to install kernel modules
  • [19:09:05] <garren> oh ok , so all modules required are also in the rootfs ?
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  • [19:09:56] <jkridner> rkrishnan: Go to "Help"-->"About"-->"Component Manager"
  • [19:10:01] <koen> garren: the modules that you told to get installed, are in the rootfs, yes
  • [19:10:07] <jkridner> you will see a list of processors supported.
  • [19:10:28] <rkrishnan> one se
  • [19:10:47] <garren> koen: great thanks...
  • [19:10:50] <jkridner> You'll also see under "Tools" options for "Web Update Now", "Web Settings...", and "Web Support".
  • [19:10:59] <rkrishnan> you are right, omap is missing.. :-(
  • [19:11:03] <jkridner> "Web Support" is the way you file bugs.
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  • [19:11:12] <jkridner> Choose "Web Update Now".
  • [19:11:39] <jkridner> It should bring you to a page that has "Chip Support Packages" as one of the sections.
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  • [19:12:01] <jkridner> You'll see there C674x and OMAP35x.
  • [19:12:37] <rkrishnan> ok
  • [19:12:55] <jkridner> you'll at least need the C674x CSP, per the instructions on http://tiexpressdsp.com/wiki/index.php?title=XDS100
  • [19:13:43] <rkrishnan> downloading both
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  • [19:24:52] <rkrishnan> jkridner, I installed the CCS support for OMAP35xx as well as C674x
  • [19:25:18] <jkridner> k, now you can get back to CCS Setup.
  • [19:25:22] <rkrishnan> I open CCS->Help->About->Component Manager
  • [19:25:33] <rkrishnan> I still cannot see OMAP35xx
  • [19:25:54] <jkridner> Do you see TMS320C67XX and TMS470R3x?
  • [19:26:58] <rkrishnan> yes, I see both
  • [19:26:59] <jkridner> this view shows the processors (CPUs) supported, not the SOCs.
  • [19:27:03] <jkridner> OMAP35x uses a TMS320C64XX, but we are going to use the TMS320C67XX driver.
  • [19:27:04] <rkrishnan> oh..ok
  • [19:27:08] <rkrishnan> ok
  • [19:27:15] <rkrishnan> back to CCS setup?
  • [19:27:19] <jkridner> yes.
  • [19:28:31] <rkrishnan> I added a new XDS100 USB based board in the "create board" tab.
  • [19:28:48] <jkridner> was the work you did before no longer there?
  • [19:28:52] <rkrishnan> I see 2 entries in the middle as before - TMS320C2800 and Bypass
  • [19:29:13] <rkrishnan> no, for some reason while starting the CCS it said board conf cannot be saved
  • [19:29:21] <jkridner> k.
  • [19:29:33] <jkridner> still no other options under "Available Processor Types"?
  • [19:29:41] <jkridner> How are you invoking CCS Setup?
  • [19:29:41] <rkrishnan> no
  • [19:30:00] <rkrishnan> from the ccs setup icon by "run as admin" context menu option
  • [19:30:11] <rkrishnan> on the desktop
  • [19:31:14] <rkrishnan> is it that my XDS100 setup is older?
  • [19:31:41] * jkridner is wondering if you have TMDSCCS2000-1 installed or TMDSCCSALL-1 installed.
  • [19:32:30] <jkridner> if you were able to install SR11 and OMAP35x/C674x CSPs, i would suspect you have TMDSCCSALL-1.
  • [19:32:53] <rkrishnan> How to find out?
  • [19:34:14] <jkridner> I'm not certain, but under Component Manager, what shows up under "Product Info"?
  • [19:34:40] * garren needs a faster computer for quicker builds
  • [19:35:49] <rkrishnan> it says VERSION ->FULL
  • [19:36:00] <rkrishnan> under that SA under that SR
  • [19:36:31] <rkrishnan> under COMPANY it says ALL, ALL, ALL
  • [19:36:50] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/default/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
  • [19:37:47] <eFfeM> koen, i've been looking at python-twisted-native and i might know the problem; the native file includes the regular bb file with has RDEPENDS on ${PN}-bin, but PN has -native in the name so I guess that won't work
  • [19:38:11] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/resources/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
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  • [19:40:12] <rkrishnan> the XDS100 software I installed is from this link: http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_registered_sw/sdo_ccstudio/CCSv3/Drivers/XDS100_v1_1_RTM.exe
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  • [19:41:34] <rkrishnan> I tried uninstalling and installing XDS100 setup program
  • [19:41:37] <Xenion> Guten Abend / Good Evening folks :-)
  • [19:41:47] <rkrishnan> it actually says XDS100 v1.1 software for C28xx devices
  • [19:41:59] <rkrishnan> perhaps I am installing a wrong version of it?
  • [19:42:15] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/resources/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
  • [19:42:45] <jkridner> sounds like you installed the wrong CCS.
  • [19:43:14] <jkridner> I thought you might be able to add the extra components, but I'm not so sure.
  • [19:43:29] <jkridner> it says that under "Product Info"?
  • [19:43:44] <jkridner> not something like "COMPANY", "PID", "VERSION"?
  • [19:44:20] <jkridner> that link should be fine for the XDS100 software, but the version of CCS is the issue.
  • [19:44:40] * jkridner hadn't scrolled back.
  • [19:44:52] <rkrishnan> yes it has company pid version
  • [19:44:55] <rkrishnan> let me paste it
  • [19:45:05] <jkridner> if you have VERSION "FULL", it sounds good.
  • [19:45:41] <rkrishnan> yes
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  • [19:46:26] <rkrishnan> I have it as FULL
  • [19:47:01] <jkridner> so, processors supported also shows TMS320C67XX, right? I'd forgotten that was there.
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  • [19:47:31] <jkridner> can you get back in CCS Setup?
  • [19:48:12] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/default/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
  • [19:48:37] <rkrishnan> yes, I am back
  • [19:48:43] <rkrishnan> in ccs setup
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  • [19:52:41] <jkridner> so, what do you see?
  • [19:52:59] <jkridner> you removed all and added "
  • [19:53:12] <jkridner> er, added "TI XDS100 USB Emulator", right?
  • [19:53:38] <rkrishnan> yes
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  • [19:53:49] <rkrishnan> I still see the same 2800 and bypass
  • [19:53:51] <rkrishnan> :-(
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  • [19:56:18] <jkridner> go to "Edit"->"Device Drivers Directories"
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  • [19:58:09] <rkrishnan> ok
  • [19:58:27] <rkrishnan> I see c:\CCS_v3.3\drivers\TargetDB
  • [19:58:28] <jkridner> rkrishnan: also, can you download http://www.beagleboard.org/uploads/beagle_c64x.ccs
  • [19:58:38] <jkridner> do you see c:\ccs_v3.3\drivers as well?
  • [19:59:02] <rkrishnan> and yes
  • [19:59:24] <rkrishnan> done
  • [19:59:43] <jkridner> Go to File->Import...
  • [19:59:57] <jkridner> select that .ccs file.
  • [20:00:13] <jkridner> it is what we were in the process of creating (and might need to debug).
  • [20:00:37] <jkridner> but, it should tell me if you have the drivers in the right directories or not.
  • [20:00:58] <jkridner> under c:\ccs_v3.3\drivers, there should be a tixds6400_plus.dvr file.
  • [20:01:17] <jkridner> as well as a tixds510icepick_c.dvr file.
  • [20:02:07] <jkridner> versions should be 2.00.1400 and 3.30.101 respectively.
  • [20:03:17] <rkrishnan> yes, I see those driver files
  • [20:03:26] <rkrishnan> how do I find versions of those files?
  • [20:03:33] <jkridner> were you able to import beagle_c64x.ccs?
  • [20:03:41] <jkridner> the versions show up in CCS Setup.
  • [20:04:04] <rkrishnan> yes, I did
  • [20:04:18] <jkridner> they should show up in the processor listings if the Device Driver Directories are correct.
  • [20:05:21] <jkridner> does it show in your setup now a TMS320C674X_0?
  • [20:05:40] <rkrishnan> I still I see C6747_0 on the left
  • [20:05:53] <rkrishnan> when I select that I still see the C2800 driver selected
  • [20:05:54] <jkridner> yeah, that is harmless.
  • [20:06:10] <rkrishnan> but on the left under subpath, I see C674X
  • [20:06:11] <garren> ERROR: busybox-1.13.2: http://busybox.net/downloads/fixes-1.13.2/busybox-1.13.2-depmod.patch has no entry in conf/checksums.ini, not checking URI
  • [20:06:12] <garren> ERROR: Error in executing: /home/garren/oe/openembedded/packages/busybox/busybox_1.13.2.bb
  • [20:06:13] <jkridner> not selected, "Available"
  • [20:07:01] <rkrishnan> yes.. sorry
  • [20:07:01] <jkridner> I don't think you are seeing C2800 driver being selected.
  • [20:07:15] <rkrishnan> I see only C2800 driver as available
  • [20:07:20] <jkridner> garren: you can pull the busybox-1.13.2 entry from your work directory and put a copy in conf/checksums.ini
  • [20:07:25] <rkrishnan> and bypass of course
  • [20:08:08] <jkridner> garren: my guess is that the tree has been updated since the last time the checksum was updated.
  • [20:09:08] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/default/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
  • [20:10:08] <garren> jkridner: cool I'll do that
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  • [20:10:59] <rkrishnan> jkridner, here is a screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79045477@N00/3263566531/
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  • [20:13:34] <jkridner> let's try to bring up CCS.
  • [20:14:24] <rkrishnan> ok
  • [20:14:26] <jkridner> I don't know why all the drivers don't show up listed and suspect it has something to do with how you originally installed CCS.
  • [20:14:59] <rkrishnan> ok
  • [20:15:29] <rkrishnan> I had several issues with vista. After installation CCS was coming up but after a reboot it stopped. It never used to come up.
  • [20:15:43] <rkrishnan> I had to uninstall and reinstall some 3 times to get it right
  • [20:15:50] <rkrishnan> I may have screwed up somewere
  • [20:16:19] <jkridner> so, what happens when you bring up CCS?
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  • [20:17:40] <rkrishnan> I get a dialog which says "The port index 0x0 is undefined in the icepick xml file"
  • [20:17:46] <rkrishnan> I click ok
  • [20:17:55] <rkrishnan> and I get the usual CCS window
  • [20:18:17] <rkrishnan> Status bar says DISCONNECTED(UNKNOWN) state.
  • [20:18:32] <jkridner> Press "ALT-C" to connect
  • [20:19:11] <jkridner> I'm not sure what the port index issue is.
  • [20:19:25] <rkrishnan> I get some error in a dialog
  • [20:19:45] <rkrishnan> SC_ERR__POD_FAIL -150
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  • [20:21:07] <rkrishnan> btw, on the XDS100 wikipage, if you scroll down to installation instructions, I see that for processor family C674x on v3.3, XDS100 support is only available on service release 12?
  • [20:22:16] <rkrishnan> does that mean that the XDS100 software I installed is only for C2800 devices and not for C674x devices?
  • [20:22:30] <rkrishnan> perhaps you are running a newer version than me.
  • [20:22:50] <rkrishnan> I mean the service release 12 instead of 11 that I am running?
  • [20:27:03] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/default/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
  • [20:28:51] <rkrishnan> jkridner, I can try installing CCSv4 beta if that can help
  • [20:29:14] <rkrishnan> infact I just started a download and also created a license.
  • [20:29:52] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/default/ was edited by blog.hangerhead.com
  • [20:30:28] <jkridner> no, what the wiki page is saying is that SR12 will include the XDS100 support so that you don't need to install it on your own.
  • [20:30:45] <rkrishnan> ok
  • [20:31:12] <jkridner> did you have everything connected and running when you tried to connect?
  • [20:31:43] <rkrishnan> yes
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  • [20:33:39] <jkridner> did you click "Disconnect"? what was the next error, if any?
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  • [20:34:08] <rkrishnan> ok, perhaps I will try uninstalling the CCS, SR11, XDS100_RTM 1.1 and start again from scratch.. ?
  • [20:34:09] <rkrishnan> Failed to retrieve the Wait in Reset Mode
  • [20:34:10] <rkrishnan> Error connecting to the target: Error 0x80000240/-1146 Fatal Error during: Initialization, OCS, Invalid data was scanned by the emulation controller. Verify the board setup to make sure the scan chain is properly defined. If the setup is correct, then RESET EMULATOR. This will disconnect each target from the emulator. The targets should then be power cycled or hard reset followed by an emureset and reconnect to each target.
  • [20:35:35] <florian> re
  • [20:38:51] <jkridner> k. I'll need to check at the office with some folks.
  • [20:38:55] <jkridner> thanks for making the attempt.
  • [20:39:42] <rkrishnan> sure, no problem.. I am very interested to put the C64x+ core in the beagle to work and end its honeymoon..
  • [20:40:13] <florian> arne-unicap: Did you ever try ucview on the BeagleBoard?
  • [20:40:29] <rkrishnan> talk to you tomorrow then.. a bit late here now (2 AM)
  • [20:41:11] <rkrishnan> thanks a lot for spending so much time.. I will also have CCSv4 beta downloaded by tomorrow morning. So I can try with that too
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  • [20:57:03] <Xenion> Gute Nacht alle miteinander / Good Night folks :-)
  • [20:57:36] <jix_> ... i so want an omap based subnotebook
  • [20:58:01] <jix_> most of it could be the battery :)
  • [20:58:31] <Xenion> jix_, i've read about one
  • [20:58:41] <Xenion> can't remember where .. but ther's one
  • [20:58:43] <jix_> cool
  • [20:58:51] <Xenion> just google for it
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  • [21:29:16] <vpdn> Hi, anyone knows whether there's any GPIO possible from the beagleboard?
  • [21:29:50] <vpdn> I need to somehow read the state of one simple switch
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  • [21:33:08] <sakoman_> vpdn: Yes, details of expansion connector are in the Beagle HW Reference Manual
  • [21:36:11] <vpdn> sokoman_: Thanks for the hint! I'll check it out. Hope will understand.
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