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[06:30:05] <garren> hi all
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[06:38:16] <garren> I'm getting this when I try and build the console image from OE, and help would be great? http://pastebin.com/d7c140ce6
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[07:06:39] <Ragha> I just started to build
[07:06:48] <Ragha> first time with OE
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[07:53:02] <Pullayar> hia ll
[07:53:05] <Pullayar> hi all
[07:53:27] <Pullayar> How to find the limitations the kernel running on the baegle?
[07:53:38] <Pullayar> How to find the limitations of the kernel running on the baegle?
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[08:56:29] <geckosen1tor> can I get the raw lcd signals on a revB board if I solder fly wires on?
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[09:16:00] <geckosen1tor> the tfp 410 is tqfp, so it looks possible
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[10:29:52] <Beagle5> Hello
[10:30:39] <Beagle5> I'm a newbie to the Beagle, got couple of basic questions... anyone willing to help?
[10:32:10] <Beagle5> What is the best development platform for the beagle board?
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[10:35:53] <Beagle5> anyone?
[10:36:24] <adj_> i juse linux + vi + gcc...
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[10:37:01] <Beagle5> does it make sence to develop under windows for linux?
[10:37:11] <Beagle5> (if possible at all)
[10:38:40] <adj_> it is possible
[10:39:02] <adj_> http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/portal/release313
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[10:48:34] <keesj> using windows for beagle development is really only something for very experianced people
[10:51:38] <adj_> i agree. Compiling with windows some random open source software which normally requires running configure scripts can be quite challenging
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[10:52:17] <Beagle5> I see...
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[10:52:43] <Beagle5> never really worked with Linux before... but I guess there is allways a first time
[10:56:05] <Beagle5> maybe you guys can advise me regarding the following: I need to write MMC test application...
[10:56:18] <Beagle5> the idea is to be able to write USB->MCC commands
[10:56:49] <Beagle5> one important thing is that I need to be able to write my own commands (not file system commands)
[10:57:06] <Beagle5> I need it to be low level MMC (working directly with the MMC controller)
[10:57:28] <Beagle5> I currently considering going in one of the following ways:
[10:57:57] <Beagle5> 1. add the extended commands to the kernel MMC controller
[10:58:14] <Beagle5> 2. disable the MMC controller in the kernel and write my own...
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[10:58:34] <Beagle5> I'm intersted to hear what you guys think
[11:07:05] <keesj> usb-> mmc?
[11:07:52] <keesj> is block level access is good enough you could use the g_file_storage to expose the whole mmc card
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[11:13:17] <Beagle5> no, block level access isn't enoght...
[11:14:10] <Beagle5> there are many MMC commands that are not part of the file/sector access API
[11:14:30] <Beagle5> (such as statuses, block erase and more)
[11:16:04] <keesj> perhaps more a u-boot hack then?
[11:26:50] <Beagle5> what do you mean?
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[11:36:03] <Beagle5> isn't accessing the mmc controller from an application would be the simplest thing to do?
[11:37:00] <keesj> If there are API's for it but as userland should not care that much in mmc I guess there are no controls
[11:37:26] <keesj> this is gust a guess.
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[11:37:54] <Beagle8> d
[11:38:02] <Beagle5> In case there are no APIs for it, will it be a problem to access it directly from the userland?
[11:40:04] <keesj> indeed, unless you really hack (e.g. open /proc/kmen) .
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[11:40:55] <keesj> Pherhaps that you can find a userland spi based driver (userland can access spi using standard api's)
[11:42:13] <BeagleDeveloper> I need full SD/MMC control...
[11:42:55] <BeagleDeveloper> so what you're basicly saying is that I rather modify the kernel driver and add it the functionality I'm looking for and not try to access it from the userland
[11:43:00] <BeagleDeveloper> sounds complicated
[11:43:30] <keesj> no , just look at the ioclt that are avaiable on the /dev/mmc*
[11:44:17] <BeagleDeveloper> you think they'll cover the whole mmc controler interface?
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[11:47:47] <keesj> BeagleDeveloper: I just looked at the .27 kernel but I can't see anyting usefull :p
[11:48:44] <BeagleDeveloper> what about the "open /proc/kmen" hack, is it complicated?
[11:53:15] <keesj> yes, sometimes it is used to set a few registers.
[11:54:18] <keesj> perhaps look at the mtd subsystem
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[11:57:21] <BeagleDeveloper> the interface there is again read/write... I need to reflect the mmc controller interface to the userland
[11:57:52] <BeagleDeveloper> so I could write a userland application that freely manipulate an mmc device...
[11:58:02] <BeagleDeveloper> like the good old 8bit controller days...
[12:05:29] <Beagle8> a
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[12:29:58] <garren> anyone else having issues building the console image with OE
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[12:48:10] <garren> should I use bitbake as root?
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[13:07:53] <adj_> no.
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[15:34:35] <BeagleDeveloper> Guys, I want to use Flyswatter JTAG debugger (from TinCanTools.com), what software do I need in order to use it?
[15:36:16] <BeagleDeveloper> the site says to use OpenOCD, have anyone tried it?
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[16:10:58] <dirk2> BeagleDeveloper: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardJTAG OpenOCD for Beagle is still work in progress
[16:11:31] <keesj> VIP....
[16:12:09] <keesj> I mailed jkridner again to get more information about this icepick.
[16:18:18] <BeagleDeveloper> thanks dirk2
[16:19:29] <BeagleDeveloper> Guys, another thing, I'm looking for a simple USB device example... any idea where can I find one?
[16:19:47] <BeagleDeveloper> (not host, just the device)
[16:19:49] <keesj> idem , this is really kernel side stuff
[16:20:36] <keesj> you can use libusb to to nice things or what other developers have done is to use the network (see rmouse) for example
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[16:21:20] <keesj> so they configure usb to be a "ethernat gadget" and communicate vie TCP/IP
[16:21:55] <BeagleDeveloper> I think they work in OTG mode
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[16:24:37] <BeagleDeveloper> I checked it agian, it's not an OTG
[16:24:50] <BeagleDeveloper> standard device
[16:25:06] <keesj> well usualy you need the beagleboard to act like a device because the host pc can not act like a device
[16:25:35] <BeagleDeveloper> true
[16:26:15] <keesj> so you can probe the ehterneet gadget and get an "easy" way to get into the beagle.
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[16:27:57] <BeagleDeveloper> thanks, I'll do that...
[16:28:13] <BeagleDeveloper> btw, is there simple helloworld sample?
[16:28:26] <keesj> for what?
[16:28:52] <BeagleDeveloper> just write "helloworld" to the consoule or screen
[16:29:32] <BeagleDeveloper> I know this pretty basic, I'm trying to get a grip on the basic steps... :-(
[16:30:57] <keesj> see http://blog.fosstronics.com/code/rmouse.tgz http://blog.fosstronics.com/2008/10/21/beagleboard-experiments/
[16:31:48] <BeagleDeveloper> thanks
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[16:44:54] <eFfeM> Hi, I am considering buying a beagle board, but I was wondering if there is any software (e.g. an mpeg2 decoder) which uses the dsp
[16:46:07] <kulve> eFfeM: there's TIs binary dsp nodes and their open source OpenMAX implementation on ARM side for it. But currently it supports only MPEG4 and AAC audio
[16:49:28] <ldesnogu_> kulve, TI has an OpenMAX implementation of codecs for ARM?
[16:50:39] <kulve> ldesnogu_: yes. The ARM side is LGPL (iirc) and the DSP side is closed source
[16:51:13] <kulve> https://omapzoom.org/gf/project/openmax/wiki/
[16:51:37] <kulve> the have also the GST plugins for their OpenMAX but the gst-openmax works also
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[16:51:57] <ldesnogu_> ha it's OpenMAX IL
[16:52:05] <ldesnogu_> I was thinking of DL :)
[16:53:36] <eFfeM> kulve: thanks for your info (sorry for the late reply missed the notification that someone replied to me; too busy googling :-) )
[16:54:13] <kulve> ldesnogu_: ARM provides the DL, but it's useless
[16:54:32] <ldesnogu_> why is it useless?
[16:54:38] * eFfeM would like to use this as a media player but would like to keep the arm available for other things as well (might want to run samba in parallel)
[16:54:39] <ldesnogu_> I never tried it, I just wonder
[16:54:54] <kulve> ldesnogu_: because you need the stuff on the top of DL to get IL
[16:54:56] <lita> kulve: how to use the sources in the link http://github.com/felipec/dsp-dummy/tree/master....please help me in this step ,,,,i got struck for the past 2 days ......whether to croosscompile this one with the dsp compiler for linux?
[16:55:39] <lita> kulve: sorry the link is http://github.com/felipec/dsp-dummy/tree/master
[16:56:14] <lita> how to use the sources in the link http://github.com/felipec/dsp-dummy/tree/master please help me in this step ,,,,i got struck for the past 2 days ......whether to croosscompile this one with the dsp compiler for linux?
[16:56:31] <kulve> lita: sorry, I've never compiled anything for the omap3's dsp
[16:57:12] <lita> kulve: how to study the limitations of the kernel flashed on the beagle?
[16:57:49] <kulve> what limitations?
[16:59:12] <lita> kulve: the limitations in terms of the outcome we expect from the kernel to do on the board.....i mean ...how to write code that works on the beagle..?
[17:00:27] <kulve> you must be much more specific if you want answer..
[17:02:44] <lita> kulve: i'm writing a code for the dsp to do a buffering and i got the .out files after compiling it with the linux compiler and scp'ed it with the kernel but itz not working?
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[17:03:48] <kulve> sorry, I don't know much about the DSP side.
[17:05:52] <lita> kulve: ok then help me write device drivers for arm side then....or where to look for beagle-compatible arm sources for furthur compilation?
[17:07:38] <kulve> sorry, I don't really write device drivers either
[17:07:41] <kulve> google
[17:08:24] <kulve> get the kernel source and check the drivers there
[17:11:53] <lita> how to get the kernel source?
[17:12:14] <lita> also one prob git clone http://www.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git -command not working well
[17:13:41] <kulve> what does "not working well" mean? Either you get the sources or you don't..
[17:13:59] <kulve> that command seems to work for me
[17:14:17] <lita> Initialized empty Git repository in /home/linux-omap-2.6/.git/ /usr/bin/git-clone: 374: curl: not found -itz the error i'm getting
[17:14:19] <kulve> although git -protocol (git://) would probably be better
[17:14:36] <kulve> maybe you are missing curl, as it says it cannot find curl?
[17:14:59] <lita> kulve: how to rectify the error?
[17:15:21] <kulve> the gir protocol doesn't need curl, so you may try that (although some firewalls may block it)
[17:15:33] <kulve> install curl to fix the error
[17:15:40] <kulve> in debian: aptitude install curl
[17:16:12] <lita> watz curl? sudo apt-get insatll curl for ubuntu?
[17:16:18] <kulve> yes
[17:16:36] <kulve> http://www.google.com helps often..
[17:16:39] <kulve> now I'm off
[17:21:03] <lita> in the page http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/DSP_Howto#Example_dsp_node i'm not able to get the packages....they are blocked
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[17:59:06] <lita> in what aspect is the page http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/DSP_Howto#Example_dsp_node telling about the DSP debugging.....shall we include codes written with CCS to the beagle using this guide?
[18:00:50] <lita> in what aspect is the page http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/DSP_Howto#Example_dsp_node telling about the DSP debugging.....shall we include codes written with CCS to the beagle using this guide?
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[19:33:07] <Crofton|1rssi> http://elinux.org/ELCE2008_Editor_Contest
[19:35:52] <dirk2> yes, a lot of new pages since the announcement
[19:36:26] <dirk2> unfortunately only for people attending ELCE
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[19:52:54] <keesj> and if they are willing to change theire email address to match the registration :(
[19:54:50] <keesj> not very "open" I guess
[19:55:41] <keesj> At least the grand price for the winner of the quiz was a beagleboard!
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[20:02:32] <geckosenator> can I write to NAND like a filesystem?
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[20:23:35] <ds2> like a filesystem? what do you mean?
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[20:29:05] <geckosenator> ds2: like a ramdisk except its nand
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[20:55:53] <ds2> Oh... sure
[20:56:02] <Xenion> gute nacht / good night .. bye bye :-)
[20:56:12] <ds2> JFFS2 and YAFFS2 will do that
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[21:31:47] <Crofton|1rssi> does sound work in the latest linux-omap kernel from OE?
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[21:33:39] <Crofton|1rssi> ASoC version 0.13.2
[21:33:39] <Crofton|1rssi> ALSA device list: No soundcards found.
[21:33:50] <Crofton|1rssi> hmmm
[21:34:55] <Crofton|1rssi> bugger, older kernel find beagle sound
[21:35:00] <Crofton|1rssi> #0: omap3beagle (twl4030)
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[21:42:28] <Crofton|1rssi> anyone have any idea when the last time sound worked in linux-omap kernel from OE?
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[22:14:16] <Crofton|1rssi> why so quiet?
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[23:06:04] <jkridner|work> Crofton|1rssi: I haven't seen it work yet in l-o, only the diagnostic kernel, though I'm told others have had limited success.
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[23:18:34] <Crofton|1rssi> it worked once
[23:18:41] <Crofton|1rssi> I have a kernel with it working
[23:18:54] <Crofton|1rssi> I need to save it :)
[23:19:04] <Crofton|1rssi> still broken in l-o head though
[23:19:33] <Crofton|1rssi> I think all the mesing around getting stuff upstream broke it again
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