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  • [00:32:20] <Ikarus> MEH, ERROR: Flash size limit exceeded by 22 bytes.
  • [00:32:49] <mru> annoying
  • [00:33:32] <Ikarus> it's the sillyness of 22 bytes this day and age
  • [00:34:02] <mru> well, too big is still too big
  • [00:34:09] <mru> what's the total size?
  • [00:36:28] <Ikarus> 2048 :)
  • [00:36:33] <Ikarus> rather odd
  • [00:36:41] <Ikarus> other people have compiled this code on gcc and gotten it to fit
  • [00:36:54] <Ikarus> but never documented WHAT VERSION
  • [00:37:10] <mru> I've heard of code that would break if compiled on a wednesday
  • [00:37:19] <mru> it encoded the build date into the code
  • [00:40:33] <Ikarus> I now reached the point of actually going source diving
  • [00:40:42] <Ikarus> err
  • [00:40:45] <Ikarus> assembler diving
  • [00:40:52] <mru> that's the fun part
  • [00:47:51] <Ikarus> gcc 4.3.2 is to blame, grmbl
  • [00:48:01] * Ikarus goes dig up a gcc 3.4 version
  • [00:48:11] <mru> gcc 4.3 isn't very good
  • [00:48:14] <mru> 4.2 seems ok
  • [00:49:25] <Ikarus> mru: other people had this issue with 4.1
  • [00:49:35] <Ikarus> so I am assuming 4.2 is also affected
  • [00:50:07] <mru> never assume when it comes to gcc
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  • [01:32:36] <gduncan> It seems to choke on any options I give it.
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  • [02:43:12] <ayergo> Wow, many more people than expected here
  • [02:43:14] * ayergo waves
  • [02:52:17] <ayergo> Anyone able to give some tips about getting an LCD monitor hooked up? Having problems with "mode not supported"
  • [02:53:54] <nathanm> ayergo: Some monitors are picky about frequencies. My Dell LCD and Samsung TV are both fine. If you have an HDTV it's worth a try.
  • [02:54:58] * Fl1pFl0p raises his monster to ayergo
  • [02:54:59] <ayergo> Just got this monitor, can anything be done about the pickiness?
  • [02:55:55] <ayergo> Some setting perhaps?
  • [03:03:28] <nathanm> I once heard Koen say that upgrading u-boot can improve DVI compatibility. When he comes back he might have ideas.
  • [03:06:20] <ayergo> Thats a good thought, i have been testing from there.
  • [03:06:22] <ayergo> Thanks!
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  • [04:28:18] <dirk2> #join #u-boot
  • [04:28:37] <dirk2> ;)
  • [04:29:17] <ds2> u-boot not found. system halted.
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  • [09:56:23] <tulpe> when i plug in my belkin wlan g adapter i get a "usb 2-1.3: device v050d p705c is not supported" error.. whats wrong?
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  • [13:43:18] <sakoman_> Crofton, koen: last night I did one of my regular "pull the latest oe.dev and do a clean build" exercises
  • [13:44:41] <sakoman_> gtk+-1.2 fails on my amd64 machine: http://pastebin.com/m49de7600
  • [13:44:58] <sakoman_> works on my 32 bit build machine though
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  • [13:45:47] <sakoman_> used to work fine on both machines
  • [13:46:19] <felipec> ahg, I forgot my rs 232 cable
  • [13:46:25] <felipec> is usb serial working?
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  • [13:49:52] <nabax> felipec: where are u from?
  • [13:50:29] <felipec> nabax: Mexico
  • [13:51:23] <nabax> ok just asking because of your name
  • [13:51:26] <nabax> i'm from barcelona
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  • [13:52:48] <Crofton|work> sakoman, I'm going to be scarce for the next few weeks, out of town paying gig
  • [13:52:54] <Crofton|work> and a conference
  • [13:53:26] <felipec> nabax: genial :)
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  • [13:55:12] <nabax> jeje
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  • [13:59:09] <felipec> looks like I won't be able to hack on the bb this weekend :(
  • [14:01:56] <jkridner> why not? what could be more important? :)
  • [14:03:06] <nabax> x'DDD
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  • [14:06:01] <felipec> jkridner: hehehe
  • [14:07:21] <felipec> jkridner: well, maybe if I can get usb serial working
  • [14:07:53] <felipec> I'm trying to compile u-bot, but it's not working
  • [14:08:10] <mru> what compiler did you use, and how did it break?
  • [14:08:31] <felipec> mru: cpu/omap3/libomap3.a(mem.o): In function `gpmc_init':
  • [14:08:49] <felipec> 2007q3-51
  • [14:09:10] <mru> not even building?
  • [14:09:34] <felipec> /data/public/dev/omap/beagle/u-boot_beagle/cpu/omap3/mem.c:301: undefined reference to `env_relocate_spec'
  • [14:09:42] <felipec> mru: nope
  • [14:10:12] <felipec> mru: this is in the 'common' branch, the 'master' branch doesn't have the beagle config
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  • [14:11:21] <mru> felipec: which repo?
  • [14:11:43] <felipec> mru: git://gitorious.org/u-boot-omap3/mainline.git
  • [14:12:23] <mru> works here
  • [14:13:23] <mru> somewhat patched, but nothing related to that
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  • [14:18:19] <felipec> mru: fb479d ?
  • [14:18:50] <mru> yes, that's what my patches are on top of
  • [14:20:40] <felipec> mru: ah, nevermind, I didn't run the configure with CROSS_COMPILE set
  • [14:20:47] <mru> heh
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  • [14:22:31] <sakoman> Crofton|work: ah, coming out west?
  • [14:23:06] <felipec> shall I compile x-loader too?
  • [14:24:36] <Crofton|work> Phoenix
  • [14:24:53] <mru> felipec: there's usually no need to tinker with x-loader
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  • [14:27:21] <felipec> mru: ok... how can I try usb serial?
  • [14:27:58] <mru> same as any other serial
  • [14:29:01] <felipec> mru: you mean try minicom with /dev/ttyUSB0 ?
  • [14:29:09] <mru> right
  • [14:29:35] <felipec> mru: there are no ttyUSB* =/
  • [14:29:44] <mru> missing driver?
  • [14:30:53] <felipec> mru: on my PC? at work I have an rs232 cable and an adapter to usb... /dev/ttyUSB0 works fine there
  • [14:31:26] <mru> then you're probably missing a driver
  • [14:31:36] <felipec> mru: it's the same machine
  • [14:31:43] <mru> you're plugging the usb end into the pc, right?
  • [14:31:53] <mru> or are you trying to get another serial port on the beagle?
  • [14:32:56] <felipec> mru: hm, I don't have the rs232 cable, so I want to use the usb to usb cable
  • [14:33:19] <mru> to do what?
  • [14:34:00] <felipec> mru: serial communication
  • [14:34:06] <mru> I got that much
  • [14:35:25] <felipec> mru: the bb is on, but I can't do anything unless I type some commands on minicom
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  • [14:36:02] <mru> are you connecting a usb cable between the beagle's otg port and the pc?
  • [14:36:50] <felipec> mru: yeah
  • [14:37:27] <mru> and then what? do you want the beagle to look like a serial port?
  • [14:37:29] <emeb> Crofton|work: what's in Phoenix (besides me)?
  • [14:37:47] <Crofton|work> people who will pay me to do some testing
  • [14:38:07] <felipec> mru: yeah, isn't that usb serial?
  • [14:38:17] <emeb> Ah - sounds... interesting.
  • [14:38:26] <mru> I guess you could say that
  • [14:38:33] <mru> it's not very precise though
  • [14:38:37] <mru> could mean many things
  • [14:39:23] <mru> is CONFIG_USB_G_SERIAL set in the beagle kernel?
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  • [14:40:54] <felipec> mru: no
  • [14:41:14] <mru> well, you need that
  • [14:42:21] <mru> then you need to select CONFIG_USB_ACM on the pc
  • [14:44:44] <felipec> mru: is there a way to do the same for uboot?
  • [14:44:53] <mru> no
  • [14:45:37] <felipec> mru: not right now or not ever?
  • [14:45:44] <mru> probably never
  • [14:45:51] <mru> there's very little reason
  • [14:45:59] <mru> and u-boot needs to be kept small
  • [14:49:08] <felipec> well, it would be nice to flash kernels from the pc
  • [14:49:28] <felipec> and set the kernel params
  • [14:49:57] <mru> rs232 works fine for that
  • [14:51:06] <felipec> mru: when you have it
  • [14:51:17] <mru> it is assumed that you have it
  • [14:52:37] <felipec> mru: suppose someone decides to build a product-like beagle
  • [14:53:17] <felipec> like a dlna server or something
  • [14:59:03] <felipec> well, u-boot would provably be overkill for such device
  • [15:00:52] <felipec> gotta reboot
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  • [15:02:03] <garren> hi all
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  • [15:12:13] <felipec> mru: doesn't seem to be working
  • [15:12:30] <felipec> it's hard to know what's going on because I don't see what u-boot is doing
  • [15:13:02] <mru> get a proper serial cable
  • [15:13:37] <felipec> I already have one
  • [15:13:48] <felipec> but not here
  • [15:13:59] <mru> then get one there
  • [15:14:05] <mru> you could "borrow" one from work...
  • [15:15:54] <felipec> nah, I'm not going to the office just to get a cable... I'll just hack on something else
  • [15:16:24] <mru> get one next time you're there
  • [15:16:56] <garren> felipec: do you have a soldering iron and a rs232 connector, you can build one quickly...
  • [15:17:14] <felipec> mru: yeah, I forgot it this time
  • [15:17:58] <felipec> garren: nope, but anyway it would be kind of tricky on this laptop (only usb ports)
  • [15:18:22] <garren> I have a usb to serial connector... works great.
  • [15:18:33] <felipec> garren: me too :) at work
  • [15:18:53] <garren> lol, you going to have to buy one for home hacking
  • [15:19:10] <felipec> I also have a dock with serial connection, but it's fails sometimes
  • [15:19:28] <felipec> garren: hehe, true
  • [15:22:14] <felipec> hmm, another possibility is that 2.6.27 isn't actually working
  • [15:25:53] <garren> what excatly does X-loader do?
  • [15:25:59] <mru> it loads u-boot
  • [15:26:20] <mru> the ROM loader loads x-loader into sram
  • [15:26:36] <mru> x-loader can then set up dram and load u-boot there
  • [15:26:54] <mru> there's only 64k of sram
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  • [15:27:08] <garren> oh ok.. 64k in the Omap.
  • [15:27:24] <mru> there's more in the IVA module
  • [15:27:50] <garren> yeah, thats accessed via DMA?
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  • [15:28:10] <mru> the IVA sram can be accessed directly
  • [15:28:21] <mru> but the rom loader doesn't do that
  • [15:28:23] <garren> What does IVA stand for?
  • [15:28:55] <mru> I-something Video Audio I think
  • [15:29:28] <garren> oh ok... then is SDram accessed via the dma?
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  • [15:29:54] <mru> all memory is mapped directly into the ARM address space
  • [15:30:38] <mru> there are a few dma controllers that are useful for moving data about
  • [15:30:48] <garren> oh ok cool.
  • [15:30:52] <mru> but there's nothing that's hidden from the cpu
  • [15:30:58] <mru> well, almost nothing
  • [15:33:03] <garren> ok...
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  • [15:48:32] <TangerineTriode> almost nothing?
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  • [16:08:54] <mru> TangerineTriode: some bits are only accessible from the DSP
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  • [16:16:59] <TangerineTriode> interesting
  • [16:17:32] <TangerineTriode> put a security kernel on the DSP and store keys where the cpu can't get to it
  • [16:20:02] <_bernie> bitbake question: can I get the ipk for a single target generated in deploy/ without rebuilding the whole image?
  • [16:20:31] <_bernie> I mean, what .bb target generates the packages?
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  • [16:26:11] <ZeZu> err i may have found out what my problem was last night ... wth?: pin1 on rs232 header is on the other side from pin1 on ribbon connector
  • [16:26:36] <ZeZu> i didn't know they made them on different sides, cable is worthless for this
  • [16:31:30] <_bernie> solved! bitbake -c package foo
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  • [16:57:43] <ZeZu> eh the meter says the cable is ok and it is reg 232, usb adapter works fine, but still nothing in hyperterm or putty with correct params, very strange :|
  • [16:58:57] <ZeZu> I have the serial adapter shown on digi-key page to work with bboard
  • [16:59:04] <ZeZu> serial->usb
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