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[03:08:44] <ap02> how long does it take to receive the beagleboard from digikey? the website says "0" quantity available.
[03:08:55] <ap02> shipping within the US
[03:14:34] <dcordes> oh they are sold out?
[03:15:19] <ap02> they say "Quantity Available: 0"
[03:15:29] <ap02> that's what the website says :-(
[03:16:10] <dcordes> I'm sorry
[03:16:19] <dcordes> ordered mine a week ago :P
[03:20:22] <ap02> darn!
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[08:25:30] <ap02> is the beagle board available from anywhere other than digikey?
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[08:32:13] <koen> afaik digikey is the only distributor
[08:32:55] <ap02> ok, well, apparently they are out-of-stock
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[11:15:29] <koen> Crofton: I pushed a beagle kernel update with pauls latest patch(es)
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[11:22:06] <cian> Any ideas why openembedded.org is down?
[11:26:59] <koen> major fuckup at the hosting provider
[11:27:24] <koen> AIUI networking went down and the hosting provider is unreachable for comment/access as well
[11:27:29] <koen> not a very good thing
[11:27:53] <koen> cian: there's a git mirror: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/git/ and a monotone mirror: opensource.wolfsonmicro.com
[11:28:21] * koen had proposed to make the wiki distributed with ikiwiki as well, nobody listened
[11:28:23] <cian> thanks
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[11:28:32] * koen takes a moment to gloat and say "told you so"
[11:28:38] <cian> ikiwiki sounds cool
[11:29:07] <koen> the cool thing is that is has multiple backend and is static, it regens on commit
[11:29:27] <cian> yes, having the entire wiki in a git repo would be nice
[11:29:43] <koen> http://cairographics.org/ is ikiwiki based
[11:29:45] <cian> as would the ability to compile docs to put in a gbz
[11:29:48] <cian> *tbz
[11:31:01] <cian> on another note has anyone used the USB Gadget mode with Mac OS X?
[11:31:11] <koen> I did for other devices
[11:31:15] <cian> I had to install a 3rd party driver to get RNDIS to work
[11:31:21] <koen> but either osx or ajzaurus is broken
[11:31:26] <cian> exactly
[11:31:26] * koen is up to en31 now
[11:31:51] <cian> I got the beagle talking to ajzaurus, but only when using a usb port directly on the machine
[11:32:04] <cian> because it was generating so many broken packets that it would break my hub
[11:33:17] <koen> I only used rndis with linux on the beagle
[11:33:18] <cian> Without ajzaurus, mac os x turns the beagle into a serial port
[11:33:22] <cian> which isn't particularly helpful
[11:33:24] <koen> heh
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[11:34:12] <cian> I've got plenty of linux machines at home, but only mac os x & windows at work
[11:34:30] <cian> so at the moment I'm doing RNDIS with a Win XP machine
[11:34:51] <cian> I'm going to look into making the Beagle present itself as a purely CDC Ethernet device.
[11:35:05] <Thanatos> question about the Beagle, is there some way to supplement its graphical capabilities with a hardware accelerator?
[11:35:13] <koen> iirc you still need ajzaurus for that
[11:35:30] <koen> Thanatos: there's a powervr chip on board
[11:35:37] <Thanatos> eh?
[11:35:57] <koen> Thanatos: your only other option is using usb to extend it, which I don't think would gain you much
[11:36:14] <Thanatos> hmm
[11:36:54] <Thanatos> I just need it to make Q3 look decently pretty, its not like it has to run Crysis or anything
[11:37:00] <Thanatos> would USB gain me that?
[11:37:04] <koen> no
[11:37:14] <Thanatos> ouch
[11:37:31] <koen> I suspect you could run quake3 nicely when the powervr drivers go public
[11:37:49] <Thanatos> whats the timeframe for that?
[11:37:55] <koen> (it's openglES, though, so you might need to recode parts of it)
[11:38:07] <koen> (or hope imgtec writes a glx driver for x)
[11:38:21] <Thanatos> i assume that I should hope so as well
[11:38:31] <cian> koen: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X#USB_Networking
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[11:39:32] <cian> the patched apple driver looks like the way forwards I think...
[11:40:12] <koen> and an entry on modules.conf for the MAC address :)
[11:41:46] <cian> yes
[11:42:11] <cian> though machines with two beagles might get upset...
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[11:43:39] <cian> it's not that I dislike linux or anything, but has anyone suggested a NetBSD port
[11:43:46] <cian> it can run on a toaster afterall
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[11:48:08] <Crofton|work> cian, people can suggest all they want
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[11:48:20] <koen> we need a riscos port!
[11:48:24] <Crofton|work> but, finding people to do things is harder :)
[11:48:28] <koen> with "next generation" video codecs
[11:49:09] <cian> Crofton|work: my own thought exactly, I don't think I'd manage on my own, but if someone else wanted it too...
[11:50:32] * koen has some power infrastructure back on his desk
[11:51:34] <Crofton|work> have you been taking photos of the desk project?
[11:52:19] <Crofton|work> I just pulled from wolfson, but no changes ...
[11:53:21] <Crofton|work> must have mispelled the branch name strike 2 is going better
[11:55:41] <koen> no pictures :)
[11:55:52] <mru> morning
[11:55:59] <koen> hey mru
[11:56:31] <mru> time to make a wish: which (current generation) codec would you like to have NEONised next?
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[11:56:52] <koen> h264 or theora
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[11:57:09] <koen> theora only to stop the free crowd from moaning :)
[11:58:12] <mru> h264 is partially done
[11:59:10] <koen> mpeg2?
[11:59:18] <mru> done
[11:59:36] <koen> so mpeg2 and mpeg4 are done
[11:59:43] <koen> h264 partially
[11:59:56] <mru> mpeg2 and mpeg4 can be improved a little more
[11:59:59] <mru> but not much
[12:00:08] <mru> 2% maybe
[12:00:54] <koen> I read that the ARM conference in november is going to focus on cortex-a9
[12:01:18] <koen> can't some ARM engineers be coaxed into enhancing (and publishing!) your work?
[12:01:59] <mru> it would/will be interesting to how cortex-a9 performs
[12:02:33] <mru> the memory subsystem is supposed to be more efficient
[12:03:26] <mru> in the meantime, I'd settle for an a8 r1p2...
[12:04:49] <koen> I wonder how the cortex-a9 MPquadcore performs
[12:05:00] <koen> that has 1 vfp and 1 neon per core
[12:05:17] * mru wants one!!!
[12:08:02] <koen> it's supposed to clock at 1GHz as well :)
[12:08:51] <mru> now there's your atom-smasher
[12:10:17] <koen> especially if it would have a yuv420 overlay
[12:10:50] <mru> that's for TI to sort out
[12:12:52] <koen> http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3507497472.html
[12:12:54] <mru> btw, there's a new fft implementation about to hit ffmpeg svn
[12:13:07] <mru> when it does, I'll do a neon version of it
[12:13:23] <koen> the radix one?
[12:13:24] <mru> should do many audio codecs some good
[12:13:29] <mru> split-radix, yes
[12:13:36] * koen pokes Crofton|work
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[12:20:41] <koen> mru: how do you update you git repos, do you push to them, or do you have a cronjob on your server?
[12:21:00] <mru> which git repos?
[12:21:24] <koen> e.g. your ffmpeg svn mirror and linux-omap mirror
[12:21:27] <mru> ffmpeg.mru is my actual working tree
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[12:21:48] <mru> the svn mirror is updated automatically with an email trigger
[12:23:51] <mru> the good thing about git is that it doesn't tell you how to do things
[12:26:14] <koen> which means googling returns a zillion fora and blogs with the wrong info ;)
[12:26:58] <mru> I'll take that over being forced to do things the wrong way anytime
[12:27:07] <koen> yeah
[12:27:10] <mru> pray that you never have to use clearcase
[12:30:38] * koen spent 2 months on a project that turned out to be caused by Visual Source Safe messing up
[12:30:51] <mru> I've never had that "pleasure"
[12:31:22] <koen> i.e. the bug had already been fixed, but my boss didn't know of it since vss decided to ignore it
[12:31:41] <mru> splendid
[12:33:26] <koen> once the bugs was fixed we noticed that the reference code from the 'manufacturer' was buggy as hell
[12:33:45] <mru> always is
[12:33:48] <koen> so anyone using data from that weather satelite got wrong coords
[12:34:14] <mru> I've fixed many bugs in broadcom reference code
[12:34:35] <koen> unsurprisingly the person who implemented that code didn't work there anymore
[12:35:12] <mru> at least broadcom are cooperative, and accept fixes without fuss
[12:37:36] <suihkulokki> mru back to neonized codecs, howabout sorenson and VP6 ?
[12:37:46] <mru> does anyone use those?
[12:37:56] <suihkulokki> flash
[12:38:00] <koen> sorenson is quicktime?
[12:38:03] <suihkulokki> aka. youtube :)
[12:38:13] <koen> or rather, what lots of quicktime movies uses
[12:38:16] <mru> youtube uses flv and h264
[12:38:19] <mru> very little vp6
[12:38:28] * koen still confuses codecs and containers a lot
[12:38:29] <mru> recent quicktime is all h264
[12:38:43] <mru> svq3 (sorenson) used to be common
[12:39:03] <mru> the decoder shares a lot of code with h264
[12:39:13] <mru> so it gets optimised for free to some extent
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[12:39:36] <suihkulokki> flv is sorenson I think?
[12:39:51] <mru> flv is adobo/macromedia twist of h263
[12:40:04] <mru> adobe
[12:40:30] <suihkulokki> h264 on flash is very recent, before that they pimped vp6 as "the future"
[12:40:43] <mru> yes, but it never got much takeup
[12:40:51] <mru> it wasn't long before h264 got supported
[12:41:50] <koen> mru: does ffmpeg have colourspace conversion functions?
[12:42:17] <mru> yes, two sets in fact
[12:43:03] <mru> and yes, I "someone" should add neon optimisations
[12:43:18] <mru> but the code is a bit messy
[13:02:22] * koen should merge the NEON stuff to mythtv again
[13:02:50] <koen> and find out why fullscreen video doesn't *$(@*$(@ work
[13:03:13] <koen> and why it insists on allocating 200MB ram for that
[13:03:31] <mru> mythtv is very ram hungry
[13:03:43] <mru> what else to expect, it's c++
[13:05:27] <koen> I suspect I'll end up using mobilemyth or plain gmyth
[13:05:55] <koen> or totem
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[13:27:34] <janneg> koen: http://www.grunau.be/ffmpeg_sync_14670.diff.bz2 that merges ffmpeg to rev 14670 into mythtv
[13:30:07] <jkridner> good morning
[13:31:04] <dirk2> jkridner: Hi, back from LWE?
[13:31:14] <jkridner> yes.
[13:32:04] <dirk2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jadon/2740231669/in/set-72157606586084668/ :)
[13:32:33] <jkridner> forgot my luggage at the airport yesterday when I got home. I drove straight to BarCampHouston3. There was a guy who had driven from Elgin to see the board.
[13:32:49] <jkridner> I had to go back to the airport and get my luggage and come back again to show him.
[13:33:00] <jkridner> a nice group gathered, so it seemed worth it.
[13:33:11] <Crofton> they didn't blow up your luggage?
[13:33:20] <jkridner> nope. :)
[13:33:41] <jkridner> dirk2; yeah, we had a good time with "Boris"
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[13:35:27] <jkridner> there were a handful of #beagle regulars at the event, but mostly new people.
[13:37:13] <jkridner> linuxworld guy took a nice photo of a demo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxjournal/2738316951/?addedcomment=1#comment72157606648719165
[13:37:26] <koen> janneg: is that trunk or 0.21-fixes?
[13:38:51] <janneg> trunk
[13:39:08] <mru> jkridner: what's the next event in europe?
[13:39:47] <jkridner> good question. I don't think there is another one for us this year.
[13:40:11] <jkridner> ESC, MV Vision, and ARM DevCon are the only ones I'm planning to be at.
[13:40:30] <mru> wrong side of the pond for me
[13:40:36] <jkridner> do we need to chat with RogerMonk to see if he's going to any?
[13:40:53] <jkridner> I take it that the LRL UK experience was a good one?
[13:41:18] <mru> yes, there was a lot of interest in the board
[13:41:36] <koen> jkridner: ELC-E is coming up in november
[13:41:54] <koen> jkridner: http://www.embeddedlinuxconference.com/elc_europe08/
[13:42:09] <mru> why are all the interesting events always in the US?
[13:43:19] <jkridner> I wouldn't say that there are that many interesting ones in the US, but it is easier for us Texas folk to make it to them.
[13:44:08] <jkridner> MV Vision and ARM DevCon are highlights due to partnerships.
[13:44:10] <mru> well, most of the european ones are just a smaller version of the "real thing" in the US
[13:44:39] <jkridner> which is odd, since Europe has a bit stronger OSS community, from what I've been seeing.
[13:45:12] <jkridner> I think it is somewhat the commercialization aspect.
[13:45:34] <jkridner> I think the US has the lead with companies commercializing OSS.
[13:45:40] <koen> jkridner: ELC 2007 was interesting in that regard
[13:46:12] <koen> jkridner: CELF spent lots of money to get asian developers to santa clare to showcase their stuff
[13:46:16] <jkridner> mostly enterprise stuff. That seems to be where the money is coming from for OSS development.
[13:46:39] * mru is allergic to the word "enterprise"
[13:46:53] <koen> "carrier grade"
[13:47:02] * mru is choking
[13:47:50] <jkridner> :)
[13:48:01] <jkridner> not my cup of tea either.
[13:48:05] <koen> I did like what redhat did in response to oracles "unbreakable linux": http://wtogami.livejournal.com/11118.html
[13:48:14] <koen> (although RH is an enterprise as well)
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[13:49:27] <jkridner> btw, had a good chat with the Tin Can Tools guys. I'll try to get extra docs out to them and Keesj this week on the JTAG front.
[13:50:10] <jkridner> what is the most critical issue today, since I've been out of loop?
[13:50:21] <keesj> that would be great.
[13:50:22] <jkridner> seems like Paul and Khasim did some good work on the serial hang.
[13:50:50] <jkridner> keesj: I'm not forgetting you! Just staying busy.
[13:51:11] <koen> jkridner: beagle doesn't use the MPU timer anymore, but one that does let you go into retention
[13:51:32] <jkridner> back to the 32kHz timer now with a fixed interrupt handler, right?
[13:51:40] <jkridner> maybe I didn't follow Paul correctly.
[13:52:10] <jkridner> are there still hangs in the git kernel boot occasionally? I'd think that'd be next on the priority list.
[13:52:17] <koen> http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/~koen/uImage-2.6.26-r59-beagleboard.bin
[13:52:21] * jkridner checks the code.google.com issues page.
[13:55:33] <dcordes> ha the beagle guy costume is awesome
[13:55:40] <jkridner> :)
[13:58:15] <keesj> not even elc ?
[13:59:26] <jkridner> http://www.embeddedlinuxconference.com/elc_europe08/index.html ?
[14:01:23] <jkridner> I'm sure there's no budget for it, but I'll check with the conference folks.
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[15:01:07] <Crofton|work> anyone know where to find a description of how a mmc interface works?
[15:02:00] <jkridner> mmca?
[15:02:15] <koen> Crofton|work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard
[15:04:03] <Crofton|work> I need to figure out the interfaces on the expansion connector
[15:04:13] <Crofton|work> and search ebay for a logic analyzer
[15:05:21] <jkridner> anyone know the process for using Mail.app to create an mbox archive? I'm trying to create an archive for gmane.
[15:05:49] <jkridner> Crofton|work: I think you'd be more interested in the SDIO mode.
[15:06:03] <Crofton|work> this is what I need to fuigure out :)
[15:06:30] * Crofton|work prepares to complain about how complicated things haves become
[15:08:59] <jkridner> Mailbox->Archive... seems to have worked well.
[15:09:33] <jkridner> with gmane.comp.hardware.beagleboard.sdr in existance, I wonder if gmane.comp.hardware.beagleboard isn't the better place now.
[15:09:38] <Crofton> http://www.opencores.org/projects.cgi/web/spimaster/overview
[15:09:45] <Crofton> heh
[15:09:49] <Crofton> that wasn't me
[15:09:55] <Crofton> someone else did that
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[15:10:10] <Crofton> I didn't setup up gmane exactly because of the naming issue :)
[15:11:16] <Crofton> still, I was glad to see someone thinking long term :)
[15:11:28] <Crofton> jkridner, I'm going to work on a project page later today
[15:11:56] <sakoman> Crofton: are you getting into the hw business? :-)
[15:11:57] <jkridner> well, since it is there....
[15:12:01] <Crofton> but first, I am going to ride the bike for a while
[15:12:09] <Crofton> sakoman, first we need a design
[15:12:19] <Crofton> then we figure out what to do
[15:12:20] <jkridner> I hate to have a disorganized gmane.
[15:12:27] <Crofton> jkridner, agreed
[15:12:34] <Crofton> I can give you the email of the guy
[15:12:38] <sakoman> Crofton: SDR addon?
[15:12:43] <Crofton> I'm not sure how easy it is to move stuff
[15:12:46] <Crofton> yeah
[15:12:55] <Crofton> real sdr
[15:13:01] <Crofton> not press release quality
[15:13:07] <sakoman> What is the hw's "native" interface?
[15:13:08] <Crofton> not via usb
[15:13:17] <Crofton> hw is an fpga
[15:13:26] <Crofton> we cannect pins to expansion connector
[15:13:29] <jkridner> the main mailing list failed in setup due to me not having the subscribe/unsubscribe addresses where gmane expected. I am about to post a URL with the mbox history.
[15:14:17] <Crofton> basically the FPGA sits between data convertors and the expansion connector
[15:14:29] <Crofton> the fpga does all the control and some signal processing
[15:14:45] <Crofton> basically reducing the data rate to the point the beagle can handle it
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[15:57:54] <emeb> Crofton: Like the direct-connect SDR thru exp connector idea.
[15:58:11] <emeb> what kind of data rates do you think are possible?
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[16:23:59] <jkridner> hmmm.... trying to answer a fairly simple question on the mailing list about how to switch to PAL. I can't seem to find where arch/arm/mach-omap2/display.c went.
[16:37:48] <sakoman> jkridner: it doesn't exist in linux-omap git
[16:38:15] <sakoman> all video drivers are in drivers/video/omap:
[16:38:25] <sakoman> http://source.mvista.com/git/gitweb.cgi?p=linux-omap-2.6.git;a=tree;f=drivers/video/omap;h=ae48f82fc051e4e706ccbbd7c1d5f30236e3040e;hb=016365936ce2bd371fee44103708f449851ba4f7
[16:45:38] <mru> who cares about pal, when there's hdmi available?
[16:50:29] <jkridner> sakoman: I don't see the S-Video output in there. is it not in the git?
[16:50:43] <jkridner> PAL/NTSC are very valuable in regions that do not have DVI-D monitors.
[16:50:57] <jkridner> er, affordable DVI-D monitors.
[16:52:00] <jkridner> not sure if this is NTSC or PAL: http://franciscoalecrim.com/blog/2008/07/29/mamona-working-with-beagleboard/
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[17:06:59] <koen> I suspect ntsc (brazil)
[17:07:11] <koen> jkridner: ds2 posted a patch to graft s-video support into git
[17:07:25] <koen> it's in the beagleboard list somewhere
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[17:14:05] <cian> just curious, what is the thinking behind not giving the beagle Ethernet?
[17:14:31] <cian> I think it could be kinda handy to be able to do ethernet without using a USB adapter...
[17:16:10] <mru> cian: I think it's a cost issue mostly
[17:16:13] <mru> and board space
[17:16:29] <mru> do you see room for an rj45 connector anywhere?
[17:16:36] <cian> ok, I hadn't realised that an ethernet PHY was that expensive
[17:16:46] <mru> it's not *that* expensive
[17:16:52] <mru> but something is more than nothing
[17:17:01] <cian> mru: maybe would could add a 4th dimension to the board?
[17:17:09] <mru> you also have to fit it on the board
[17:17:30] <cian> Ok, that answers my question alright
[17:17:52] <cian> for the hell of it my might try to connect something to the expansion connector
[17:17:52] <mru> you'd need a phy and a line transformer, iirc
[17:18:09] <cian> yes, I guess it's probably not needed for most environments
[17:18:19] <cian> was just thinking it would be cool to be able to net boot
[17:18:44] <mru> you can net boot with usb ethernet
[17:18:53] <mru> or usb gadget ethernet
[17:18:56] <cian> oh, ok, I hadn't realised that
[17:19:19] <cian> Clearly I'm trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist
[17:19:33] <mru> a lot of people do that
[17:21:17] <cian> oh well, it just somehow feels slightly cumbersome using a USB to ethernet adapter
[17:25:44] <Crofton> cian, buy an omap 3 evm :)
[17:26:10] <Crofton> the beagle is very much a compromise design
[17:26:20] <Crofton> to get the cost reasonable for hobbyists
[17:26:53] <cian> Yes, the cost of the beagle is phenomenally low
[17:27:03] <cian> I could easily imagine another 0 on the end
[17:29:27] <cian> just reading through the HRM, is there a plan to up the memory of the Beagle to 1GB in the future?
[17:29:47] <cian> (the SDRAM that is)
[17:31:26] <mru> there are currently no chips available
[17:31:42] <mru> I assume this will change with time
[17:32:53] <koen> there is supposedly a 256MB ddr PoP coming onto the market soom
[17:33:04] <koen> but it's not on the micron site yet
[17:33:26] <mru> I'd be happy with more ram and less flash
[17:33:33] <mru> a few MB of flash would be fine
[17:34:24] <cian> yes, you don't really need much flash unless you're doing ramdisks or something
[17:34:43] <cian> Just curious as to the meaning of the "2Gb NAND (256MB) 1Gb MDDR SDRAM (128MB) " line in the HRM
[17:34:44] <mru> I keep my filesystem on SD
[17:34:49] <cian> same here
[17:35:11] <mru> 256 MB is rather small compared to SD cards available
[17:35:47] <cian> though I guess some people might like to go down the same route as openwrt and use a jffs2 fs on flash so that the SD card can be removed and the system stays running
[17:36:27] <mru> a second SD slot would solve that problem
[17:36:35] <mru> the chip supports it
[17:37:01] <cian> yes, I've just built up a board that gives me some micro SD slots on an expansion card
[17:37:23] <cian> microSD would cut down on size...
[17:37:38] <cian> and you can still get pretty huge & fast microSD cards
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[18:00:08] <evillus> hi guys :D
[18:00:15] <mru> hi
[18:00:39] <evillus> fast question. can the beagle board run an amiga emulator at full speed ?
[18:01:03] <mru> I don't know if anyone has tried
[18:01:07] <mru> but my guess would be yes
[18:01:12] <mru> what kind of amiga?
[18:01:19] <evillus> so if I got it right, this runs linux
[18:01:21] <evillus> well
[18:01:27] <evillus> A500 would be enough yes :)
[18:01:31] <mru> no problem
[18:01:50] <mru> the beagle ships without any OS
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[18:02:08] <evillus> so the plan would be... get linux up on that thing
[18:02:13] <evillus> then run an emu
[18:02:20] <mru> linux is well supported
[18:02:29] <mru> so that would be the safe choice
[18:02:32] <evillus> great
[18:02:40] <mru> unless you enjoy porting operating systems
[18:02:48] <evillus> I'm passing that hehe
[18:02:59] <mru> OS hacking can be good fun
[18:03:11] <evillus> and time consuming :D
[18:04:04] <mru> if you're paid for it, does it matter?
[18:04:28] <evillus> well problem is time actually hehe
[18:04:50] <evillus> anyways, this is looking good
[18:05:15] <mru> I spend 7.5 hours a day in an office. if some of that time goes to OS hacking, it's a good day
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[18:30:50] <evillus> gotta move
[18:30:54] <evillus> thx for those infos :)
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[18:47:02] <Crofton> um beach volleyball
[18:48:52] <koen> you must be watching nbc
[18:48:57] <koen> since you're like 12 hours behind :)
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[19:03:08] <Crofton> recorded yesterday
[19:03:18] <Crofton> ff'ing through all but the cycling road race
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[19:07:12] <mru> a cousin of a friend of a friend is cycling for canada...
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[19:22:55] <Crofton> now I can read the real story about the road race
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[19:53:31] <jkridner> anyone here know Thai? http://developer.embes.com/blog/
[19:53:49] <jkridner> http://www.thai2english.com doesn't seem to handle it.
[19:55:56] * mru has the font...
[19:56:30] <mru> but damn, it's hard to read that stuff...
[19:58:26] <mru> but with that amount of english words thrown in, guessing gets quite easy
[19:58:58] <mru> seeing the word "crash" is of course a bit worrying
[20:00:37] <mru> hmm... thai2english reckons one of the words used is an "insulting word used referring to women"
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[20:26:54] <mru> koen: is that you pulling my linux-omap?
[20:28:06] <koen> nope
[20:28:15] <mru> someone in .nl was
[20:28:32] <mru> fine by me, of course... I just happened to notice
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[22:40:53] <mru> I just noticed that the tiny chip (U7) by the ehci connector is quite hot
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