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  • [03:12:54] <jkridner> site going down for switch over. expecting 15 minutes.
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  • [03:20:09] * Topic is 'Welcome to #Beagle | Discussion about the OMAP3 Beagle Board - http://beagleboard.org | Beagle search tools are on #dashboard at irc.gimp.org, NOT here ;) | Log is at http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs'
  • [03:20:09] * Set by jkridner on Tue Jun 10 00:33:18 CDT 2008
  • [03:20:17] <jkridner> and the new site is live.
  • [03:20:48] <jkridner> 8 minutes. I really could do without killing it, but that would take more prep work.
  • [03:37:24] <jkridner> registration of projects, especially Angstrom and FFmpeg, would be most welcome.
  • [03:40:20] <jkridner> Cacao/Classpath would also be a welcome addition.
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  • [05:25:52] <khasim> New site for BeagleBoard looks really good
  • [05:26:31] <khasim> http://www.digikey.com/beagleboard results in page not found
  • [05:37:49] <ds2> Nice
  • [05:38:06] <ds2> the buy link goes to something else
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  • [06:15:01] <sakoman_> hmm . . . where can I pick up the beagle debian, ububtu, and gentoo distros? ;-)
  • [06:31:12] <ds2> debian should be in the usual place
  • [06:32:20] <kulve> yeah, debian armel should work for any (newer) arm cpu, although it's not armv7 optimized or anything..
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  • [07:05:46] <kulve> "The following parts cannot be exported to your destination", "U.S. export regulations"
  • [07:05:54] <kulve> What? Why?
  • [07:08:53] <ds2> maybe the beagle boards exceed the supercomputing threshold for exports? ;)
  • [07:09:53] <kulve> quite annoying, if the board is sold in U.S. only..
  • [07:27:48] <kulve> ah: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_frm/thread/f809bb853765f46a
  • [07:32:03] <gaipo> kulve: Yep, we Finnish bastards just need to wait a bit more ;)
  • [07:33:14] <gaipo> Hopefully it gets solved, been playing some ping-pong with digikey support...
  • [07:37:14] <kulve> gaipo: let me know, when you succeed to order it :)
  • [07:37:51] <gaipo> yep, you too!
  • [07:41:18] <gaipo> Have been trying to explain nicely that issues should get solved real-soon-now, latest reply was still "BEAGLE is not available for Europe."
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  • [09:19:31] <CyruzDraxs> Well...I'm $149 more broke now. What should I do when my new toy comes in the mail? :O
  • [09:20:28] <bjdooks> CyruzDraxs: gloat over all of us who can't yet export it
  • [09:22:42] <CyruzDraxs> Pff...surely there's more productive things I can do with it than that! :P
  • [09:24:44] <CyruzDraxs> I'm thinking of seeing if I can get XBMC working on it, but the linux port is early in development and is a bit on the side of dependency hell...I'm not expecting much.
  • [09:28:16] <khasim> CyruzDraxs: Are you expecting some out of the box instructions?
  • [09:30:56] <CyruzDraxs> I don't think there's even space in that box for instructions. ;)
  • [09:31:29] <bjdooks> instructions are for losers
  • [09:31:42] <CyruzDraxs> I know I'll probably have a bit of learning to do, but that's have the fun.
  • [09:31:50] <CyruzDraxs> half*
  • [09:32:12] <bjdooks> oh ffs, my cam script isn't output component idents
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  • [09:38:56] <khasim> CyruzDraxs: I was planning to put some lines on code.google.com
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  • [10:21:32] <Parker-> hi all! :)
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  • [10:26:15] <CyruzDraxs> What exact things are closed source or unreleased on the Beagleboard? I'm thinking of compiling my own kernel and building my own custom installation, but I'm wondering if it'd be best not to for better support...I heard the SGX drivers haven't been released, but I'm not sure if there is anything directly in the kernel that's closed source.
  • [10:30:38] <DJWillis> CyruzDraxs: sans the SGX you can build a 100% open working kernel from Linux-OMAP GIT.
  • [10:33:18] <CyruzDraxs> That makes me very excited. ^_^
  • [10:35:38] <CyruzDraxs> I heard the Pandora team is working with a binary blob for the SGX--maybe I can try and get that from them when the Pandora is released. I suspect I'll be doing a great deal of tinkering over the coming months between the Beagleboard and the Pandora.
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  • [10:39:18] <Parker-> i have stupid little queston. Does Beagleboard have drivers for opengl es?
  • [10:40:26] <kulve> see the SGX discussion above
  • [10:40:57] <kulve> SGX is the 3d chip in omap3
  • [10:41:47] <Parker-> ah ok...
  • [10:42:09] <Parker-> need to check little better omap3 :P
  • [10:42:54] <kulve> something here: http://www.ti.com/omap3
  • [10:43:24] <Parker-> thanks
  • [10:43:34] <DJWillis> CyruzDraxs: "Pandora team" for what it matters, but staying away from the 3D drivers.
  • [10:43:35] <kulve> 3430 is pretty much the same as 3530, afaik
  • [10:48:55] <CyruzDraxs> You think there is any chance of the SGX drivers going open source or an alternate open source version becoming available in the foreseeable future?
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  • [10:49:40] <DJWillis> CyruzDraxs: not something I am near or can really talk about.
  • [10:49:42] <CyruzDraxs> I've heard Imagination is being a little over-protective of their driver code. >.>
  • [10:49:48] <ldesnogu> CyruzDraxs: the probability for all of the driver is close to 0
  • [10:51:12] <CyruzDraxs> Well, here's to hoping some godly dev comes along and makes an open source alternative.
  • [10:52:12] <ldesnogu> CyruzDraxs: without hardware documentation that won't happen
  • [10:53:51] <CyruzDraxs> Several years of guess work might work...maybe...after a few hundred dead Beagleboards...stop shatterying my dreams. >.<
  • [11:09:19] <jkridner> good morning
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  • [11:10:24] <jkridner> we are fixing the export thing. it is a matter of getting some physical paperwork in the hands of Digi-Key.
  • [11:20:53] <DJWillis> jkridner: so only a matter of a few days then? Saves having to ship to a mate and forward it on.
  • [11:21:13] <jkridner> well, that is what I *expect*.
  • [11:21:39] <jkridner> but, there is also a public announcement today, so I don't know how many boards will be left in a couple of days.
  • [11:21:54] <jkridner> that is why I'm still quite anxious.
  • [11:22:42] <DJWillis> Hmmm, snag and snag then, pre-orders for us non-US types?
  • [11:22:45] * jkridner is really excited about all of the development going on outside the US/Canada, especially in Europe, and great things going on in India and China as well.
  • [11:23:02] * jkridner is quite disappointed by this hiccup.
  • [11:23:48] <jkridner> We asked them to change that policy, but it is a bit odd for them to take pre-orders where there on-file documentation says they cannot sell.
  • [11:24:19] <jkridner> 134 boards arrive today and a total of 400 boards arrive this week.
  • [11:24:39] <jkridner> next round of boards arrive near the end of August.
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  • [11:25:35] <DJWillis> jkridner: there has been a lot of interest, that's for sure.
  • [11:25:38] * jkridner is paying close attention to when people in the US start showing up to work so that they can say if the docs have arrived.
  • [11:25:51] <bjdooks> DJWillis: it is damned cheap
  • [11:26:13] <jkridner> the 400 will sell out just based on revb-request, but many of those are in Europe.
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  • [11:26:56] <DJWillis> bjdooks: really ;). Yep, it's a little more for us Europhiles but it is one hell of a board for the $'s.
  • [11:27:08] <jkridner> I think the weakness of the US dollar is quite helpful too.
  • [11:27:30] <DJWillis> jkridner: helps with my shopping that's for sure.
  • [11:27:31] <bjdooks> it was around $2/1ukp last week
  • [11:29:10] <jkridner> any comments on the new website design?
  • [11:29:36] * DJWillis likes
  • [11:30:09] <ldesnogu> jkridner: it's definitely clearer than the old one
  • [11:30:57] <jkridner> k, clear is a good thing.
  • [11:31:18] <DJWillis> Only snag is the fact all inline attached images have that zoom on them including odd ones like 'email this' 'digg that' etc.
  • [11:31:34] <jkridner> I really need to get some projects registered so that people know what they can do with the board.
  • [11:31:56] <jkridner> oh, yeah.
  • [11:32:25] <jkridner> I need to try using a JSON feed for the Yahoo pipe, rather than using the Yahoo badge.
  • [11:32:58] <ldesnogu> jkridner: did something change regarding frequency? http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/gencontent.tsp?contentId=36915 says 600 MHz
  • [11:32:59] <jkridner> I'd like to give that box (Latest News) some more width as well.
  • [11:33:26] <jkridner> does something not say 600MHz, other than community blog posts?
  • [11:33:51] <jkridner> 600 MHz is right.
  • [11:33:58] <ldesnogu> I kept on seeing 500 MHz was the default (even Pandora went down from 600 to 500)
  • [11:34:13] <ldesnogu> good :)
  • [11:35:58] <ldesnogu> you should get Khasim to change its "All exited with Beagle" to "All exCited" blog's title :)
  • [11:37:20] <jkridner> well, the normal process is to run at 500, except when the load gets high and you temporarily step up to 600MHz.
  • [11:38:59] <Cyruz> My only complaint with the new site (that was actually present on the old site too) is that the "We are on #beagle on irc.freenode.net" link has a hash in it when it shouldn't.
  • [11:39:28] <jkridner> Cyruz: thanks! I never know how to do IRC hyperlinks.
  • [11:40:24] <jkridner> should it be irc://irc.freenode.net/beagle ?
  • [11:40:37] <jkridner> shouldn't the text still say #beagle?
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  • [11:41:38] <CyruzDraxs> It should be the same as it is, just with the hash removed. irc://beagle@irc.freenode.net
  • [11:43:05] <CyruzDraxs> I think irc://irc.freenode.net/beagle might work as well, but I never see it structured like that...there might be some reason for that. It just worked for me though (why I left and came back)
  • [11:44:07] <Crofton> jkridner, does the link from bb.org to digikey work for you?
  • [11:44:13] <Crofton> I just got a page not found
  • [11:44:27] <jkridner> odd, it works for me sometimes and not others.
  • [11:44:41] <jkridner> I thought it was working this morning. link is http://www.digikey.com/beagleboard.
  • [11:44:45] <Crofton> http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/en/mkt/beagleboard.html is the correct link?
  • [11:44:53] <jkridner> :(
  • [11:44:56] <jkridner> down for me now.
  • [11:45:03] <Crofton> grrr
  • [11:45:08] <jkridner> it worked about 45 minutes ago.
  • [11:45:11] <CyruzDraxs> the hash is an invalid character in url strings--it's reserved for anchoring.
  • [11:45:13] <Crofton> I was going to spam some people I know are interested :)
  • [11:45:24] <ldesnogu> the DigiKey link works here
  • [11:45:43] <jkridner> you can go to http://digikey.com and just search for beagle now.
  • [11:45:57] <CyruzDraxs> works here too
  • [11:46:17] <Crofton> quantity available is 0?
  • [11:46:18] <jkridner> be sure to search for "beagle" not "beagleboard"
  • [11:46:31] <jkridner> yeah, the boards arrive in Minnesota today.
  • [11:46:36] <Crofton> ah
  • [11:47:03] <jkridner> 135 boards.
  • [11:47:18] <jkridner> pics of them being prepped are on the flickr group.
  • [11:47:46] <Crofton> how long will those last?
  • [11:48:01] <Crofton> maybe we should have a pool
  • [11:48:37] <CyruzDraxs> I just bought one earlier...the quantity was 1 then...maybe I got the last one and they sold out really fast? :S
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  • [12:21:58] <sweetlilm> anyone know why I can't order a board from Digikey? Aparently the boards are classified as "export restricted"?!?
  • [12:22:12] <kulve> sweetlilm: you need to wait a day or two
  • [12:22:17] <kulve> the issues is being fixed
  • [12:22:30] <sweetlilm> the sales rep was.... less that helpful :) Thanks :)
  • [12:23:07] <CyruzDraxs> yeah, they need to get some paperwotk to them so they know it's actually allowed to be exported.
  • [12:23:22] <sweetlilm> finally I shall have my hands on some beagle goodness :)
  • [12:23:38] <Crofton|work> blame vague laws with criminal penalties :(
  • [12:24:16] <sweetlilm> Sales rep argued with me for about 45 mins until I gave up. *sigh* I think I lost her after I got into the whole crypto / export is dead argument
  • [12:25:13] <CyruzDraxs> Hopefully they aren't sold out before they fix the problem. :S
  • [12:25:28] <sweetlilm> I will be... unhappy if that is the case.
  • [12:26:00] <sweetlilm> tell those yankee bastards to leave a few for those of us in the third world :) :)
  • [12:26:09] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [12:26:24] <CyruzDraxs> I bought one earlier and now it's showing me 0 stock...
  • [12:26:33] <Crofton|work> you can't even blame this on Bush, these laws date from the Clinton admin :)
  • [12:26:57] <sweetlilm> damn, and bush is such a convienant scapegoat :)
  • [12:27:02] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [12:27:12] <Crofton|work> but, facts are still facts :)
  • [12:27:23] <sweetlilm> urgh my spelling is up the pole today ;)
  • [12:27:47] <CyruzDraxs> Hopefully Digi-key is just being wonky, because otherwise that would mean the boards sold out really fast! :O
  • [12:27:56] <sweetlilm> well thanks for the update, I'll keep checking and hoping I get one
  • [12:28:01] <Crofton|work> jkridner, said that 135 arrive later today
  • [12:29:34] <sweetlilm> cherz
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  • [12:35:04] <CyruzDraxs> I better go to sleep now that it's 5:30AM. >.>
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  • [12:42:30] <jkridner> I think the beginning of last week they had 44 boards, but today there will be 135 more.
  • [12:57:40] <khasim> For some reason I like the old LOGO than the one present now on beagleboard.org
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  • [12:58:36] <khasim> The logo is getting inconsistent across Digikey, beagleboard.org and other sites.
  • [12:59:29] <khasim> jkridner: will you be getting the logo changed at digikey?
  • [13:00:03] <jkridner> you mean the "beagleboard" logo?
  • [13:00:10] <jkridner> to give the full dog and no outline?
  • [13:00:11] <khasim> jkridner: yes
  • [13:00:22] <jkridner> or something else?
  • [13:00:34] <khasim> the new site has full dog, previously we just had the head
  • [13:01:01] <jkridner> that is a bit finer point of detail than issues I'm dealing with now, like project registration. :)
  • [13:01:14] <khasim> :)
  • [13:01:24] <jkridner> I'll mention it though and get it fixed.
  • [13:01:42] <jkridner> I didn't even know we were changing the logo, which now doesn't match the board itself.
  • [13:01:42] <khasim> You want it to get changed to full dog every where?
  • [13:01:52] <jkridner> we aren't changing it on the board!
  • [13:02:16] <khasim> May be you can just get it changed on the beagleboard.org than changing every where else
  • [13:02:18] <khasim> on box
  • [13:02:21] <khasim> on board
  • [13:02:25] <khasim> etc
  • [13:03:17] <jkridner> for some reason, updatetime doesn't get updated properly.
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  • [13:05:14] * Topic is 'Welcome to #Beagle | Discussion about the OMAP3 Beagle Board - http://beagleboard.org | Beagle search tools are on #dashboard at irc.gimp.org, NOT here ;) | Log is at http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs'
  • [13:05:14] * Set by jkridner on Tue Jun 10 00:33:18 CDT 2008
  • [13:05:24] <jkridner> just restarted the server to see if it'd fix the updatetime issue.
  • [13:05:45] <jkridner> nope.
  • [13:07:02] <jkridner> really odd. it seems to work backwards. time gets updated every time and updatetime does not.
  • [13:09:20] <BThompson> the cables and adapters from digikey are particularly expensive...
  • [13:10:38] <jkridner> I think you can save on shipping by buying them together. I've seen a lot of DVI-D cables around the $33 price, but I've also seen them as low as $7.
  • [13:10:56] <BThompson> yea http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2405&seq=1&format=2
  • [13:11:19] <jkridner> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=AE9915-ND seems like the wrong gender to me.
  • [13:11:42] <BThompson> yea that one looks to be an extention
  • [13:11:46] <Crofton|work> do they have the mini-ab to a receptacle?
  • [13:11:49] <jkridner> bookmarked!
  • [13:11:53] <jkridner> nope.
  • [13:12:12] <jkridner> nor the IDC10-to-DB9.
  • [13:12:31] <suihkulokki> someone here used the oprofile/armv7 patch?
  • [13:12:41] <jkridner> they are still learning about the Beagle Board though, so they might look to have those eventually.
  • [13:13:01] <jkridner> I didn't see the touchscreens from Digi-Key before.
  • [13:13:03] <suihkulokki> is it giving aproximately 64 times too few samples for CCNT ?
  • [13:14:57] <BThompson> digikey page looks to be down now
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  • [13:17:09] <jkridner> seems to be going up and down all the time. :(
  • [13:17:24] <jkridner> up for me.
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  • [13:21:24] <BThompson> "
  • [13:21:24] <BThompson>
  • [13:21:24] <BThompson>
  • [13:21:24] <BThompson> The Page You Requested Is Not Available.
  • [13:21:24] <BThompson> If this page was a link on a Digi-Key site, please report this error to the webmaster. If this page was linked from another site or a search engine, please be aware that Digi-Key changes the links to the catalog pages when each new catalog is released. Use the links above to assist you in finding the information you require. "
  • [13:21:26] <BThompson>
  • [13:21:28] <BThompson>
  • [13:21:30] <BThompson> The Page You Requested Is Not Available.
  • [13:21:32] <BThompson> If this page was a link on a Digi-Key site, please report this error to the webmaster. If this page was linked from another site or a search engine, please be aware that Digi-Key changes the links to the catalog pages when each new catalog is released. Use the links above to assist you in finding the information you require. "
  • [13:21:40] <BThompson> than it goes off into several other languages
  • [13:22:13] <BThompson> sorry looks like i pasted it twice
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  • [13:50:02] <ldesnogu> suihkulokki: I don't have hw yet, but why do you ask about CCNT being divided by 64? Cortex-A8 can count cycles at clock speed, or every 64 cycles (see http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ddi0344b/Bgbdeggf.html)
  • [14:02:48] <jkridner|work> http://www.dspdesignline.com/products/209601814
  • [14:06:11] <BThompson> good press there :), it is interesting it mentions the DVSDK as being free for the EVM, is there any plan for enabling DSP supported codecs on the Beagle? or does that get into where the community would have to figure it out...?
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  • [14:12:55] <ldesnogu> I didn't know gumstix was planning to use omap35
  • [14:13:35] <Crofton> hmmm
  • [14:13:43] <Crofton> I didn't either ...
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  • [14:14:32] <ldesnogu> sakoman: did you know about that?
  • [14:14:54] <sakoman_> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/gumstix-announces-new-overotm-product/story.aspx?guid={41EEF079-4344-4C9B-9DA8-02209AC943DE}&dist=hppr
  • [14:15:11] <sakoman_> ldesnogu: yes
  • [14:15:27] <ldesnogu> nice :)
  • [14:15:29] <Crofton> we should have waterboarded him!
  • [14:15:35] <ldesnogu> ^^
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  • [14:16:02] <sakoman_> details not announced yet, but I think you will really like it
  • [14:16:13] <ldesnogu> sakoman_: that explains why you are working on omqp3 then :)
  • [14:17:00] <sakoman_> ldesnogu: in the last 6 months I've had 2 clients that are using omap3 processors, so I think I see a trend
  • [14:17:32] <ldesnogu> that's very good news for TI and ARM :-)
  • [14:17:38] <Crofton> extrpolating on limited data points is dangerous
  • [14:17:45] <ldesnogu> heh
  • [14:18:15] <ldesnogu> we can dream, can't we?
  • [14:18:30] * Crofton owns ARM stock so he hopes ldesnogu is right :)
  • [14:18:52] <sakoman_> Crofton: I'm working to expand the number of data points :-)
  • [14:19:19] <ldesnogu> Crofton: I am afraid it will benefit TI stock more than ARM's one
  • [14:19:40] <ldesnogu> hum I still have some TI socks, but I think I have more ARM stocks :-)
  • [14:19:40] <Crofton> TXN was down alot recently, so it has no were to go but up ...
  • [14:21:53] <sakoman_> still no serial lockups on overo after 30 hours
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  • [14:22:14] <Crofton> RogerMonk, nag
  • [14:22:28] <sakoman_> very strange, I really wonder what causes those
  • [14:22:51] <Crofton> bother, I need to review MILCOM papers this week
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  • [14:55:39] <jkridner|work> k, I believe Digi-Key redirect has been fixed. http://www.digikey.com/beagleboard
  • [14:55:55] <BThompson> works for me
  • [14:59:45] <suihkulokki> ldesnogu: yeah, it seemed that 64 divider was indeed set by current oprofile patch
  • [15:01:16] <ldesnogu> suihkulokki: I did not take a close look, perhaps did they want to avoid coding overflow detection :)
  • [15:02:36] <ldesnogu> hum forget that, they have to handle it, even dividing by 64 means the counter overflows in less than 8 minutes
  • [15:09:02] <ldesnogu> suihkulokki: frightening comment:
  • [15:09:10] <ldesnogu> + * Note: Using a slower count for CCNT (D bit: divide by 64) results
  • [15:09:10] <ldesnogu> + * in a more stable system
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  • [15:09:46] <khasim> do we still have kernel hanging issue ?
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  • [15:13:23] <dirk2> khasim: Yes, I think so. In my opinion http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/issues/detail?id=22 is up to date
  • [15:14:59] <dirk2> khasim: While playing with display config at the weekend I saw serial lock ups
  • [15:15:13] <khasim> dirk2: very recently paul and sakoman were still discussing about the hang
  • [15:15:23] <dirk2> khasim: yes
  • [15:15:30] <khasim> dirk2: ok, so we still have the issue
  • [15:16:03] <dirk2> khasim: yes
  • [15:16:24] <khasim> dirk2: I think I will find some time this week, will give a try
  • [15:17:28] <dirk2> khasim: And if you read the IRC logs from saturday, display timings are weird, too
  • [15:18:02] <dirk2> khasim: I always talk about git kernel, btw ;)
  • [15:18:13] <oelewapperke> how does the OTG port deal with hubs ?
  • [15:18:39] <oelewapperke> say you hang the beagleboard on a powered hub -> it should power up right ? -> can it access other peripherals connected to that usb hub ?
  • [15:20:13] <dirk2> oelewapperke: I think most people power beagle by external power supply at power jack, then have a powered hub at OTG connector and connect all their peripherals there
  • [15:21:02] <oelewapperke> would it work by simply connecting it to the powered hub ?
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  • [15:22:19] <dirk2> oelewapperke: As I understand it: yes (if you have the drivers/modules loaded)
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  • [15:25:22] <sakoman_> dirk2, khasim: FWIW I don't see serial lockups on the gumstix overo board
  • [15:25:37] <sakoman_> It also uses uart3 for console
  • [15:25:58] <oelewapperke> is it possible to add a bit of ram to the system ?
  • [15:26:40] <dirk2> sakoman: :(
  • [15:26:49] <dirk2> oelewapperke: What ram?
  • [15:27:26] <oelewapperke> it seems to me that if you want to actually use the 3d for anything, you'd need more than 128meg
  • [15:27:47] <Crofton> oelewapperke, depends if you are using host, otg, or slave mode I think
  • [15:29:19] <Crofton> sakoman, you used overo in channel last week, and google failed me :)
  • [15:30:10] <sakoman_> Crofton: there have been overo branches in my git for a while too
  • [15:30:27] <Crofton> well, I got a lot of horse links :)
  • [15:30:52] <sakoman_> that's where the name comes from
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  • [15:32:09] <maelcum> hi. i'd like to know if the international shipping problems with digikey have been resolved.
  • [15:34:02] <dirk2> maelcum: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_frm/thread/f809bb853765f46a "resolved in a day or two"
  • [15:34:16] <maelcum> last thursday or friday we were told that they couldn't ship to outside the us >:|
  • [15:34:24] <maelcum> dirk2: ok, thanks
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  • [15:35:33] <bernrdo> mornin everyone
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  • [15:41:34] <jkridner|work> good morning bernrdo
  • [15:43:05] <jkridner|work> I already pinged my Digi-Key contact a couple of times today.
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  • [15:55:28] <dirk2> btw, for the archives: RMK sent a patch to completely remove kernel's cache configuration output instead of accepting Catalin's Cortex patch we currently use: http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/message/20080727.090128.6b448acf.en.html
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  • [16:04:17] <sakoman_> dirk2: I pushed the overo u-boot patches to the test branch
  • [16:04:45] <sakoman_> figure it will help us decide what chunks of code should be common
  • [16:05:07] <sakoman_> I also created xload and uboot-v2 gits
  • [16:06:56] <dirk2> sakoman_: okay
  • [16:07:02] <sakoman_> still haven't gotten the third omap3evm patch from Mani
  • [16:07:16] <sakoman_> But I'll push that when he sends it
  • [16:07:42] <dirk2> sakoman_: Okay, the minor clean ups we can do in git, too
  • [16:08:00] <sakoman_> Yes, it will be much faster that way
  • [16:08:04] <dirk2> ;)
  • [16:08:34] <sakoman_> I did a little checkpatch type cleanups on the overo files that are common
  • [16:08:54] <sakoman_> Silly things like parens around return values
  • [16:09:25] <dirk2> did you try if EVM network with Mani's second patch where he used the standard driver?
  • [16:09:31] <sakoman_> If you approve we can copy them over to beagle and evm when it is pushed
  • [16:09:59] <sakoman_> dirk2: no I was waiting for the whole patch set before testing
  • [16:10:27] <sakoman_> I see no reason that it won't work
  • [16:10:51] <sakoman_> I did the same thing with the linux driver when I did the evm board support
  • [16:11:24] <sakoman_> Mistral used a custom driver, I did a patch set that used the standard smc91x
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  • [16:46:10] <pbrook_> Is the board for sale via DigiKey the RevB board, or the RevC board with working USB host?
  • [16:48:06] <kulve> B
  • [16:48:35] <pbrook_> Gah. All fairly academic anyway, DigiKey are being stupid about shipping outside the US.
  • [16:48:53] <kulve> that issue is being fixed
  • [16:48:59] <kulve> takes a day or two
  • [16:49:02] <pbrook_> ok
  • [16:49:33] <DJWillis> pbrook_: B but you still have host on the OTG port if you need it, just 100mA without external power if I recall
  • [16:49:55] <pbrook_> DJWillis: Right. And a mutant adapter cable :-)
  • [16:50:21] <DJWillis> Not that mutant ;), but I know what you mean.
  • [16:57:46] <bernrdo> does anybody know what kinda stock DigiKey has of the beagleboard? ... i.e. how many
  • [16:58:40] <kulve> 15:42 < jkridner> I think the beginning of last week they had 44 boards, but today there will be 135 more.
  • [16:59:40] <bernrdo> ah, good news :) I think I've blown one or two of the 1.8 to 3.3V level translators :(
  • [17:01:05] <bernrdo> soldered the 28-pin expansion header onto the board, everything went well & board booted, checked the pin-outs on the header with the scope, must've done something wrong cause board doesn't boot anymore (no output on uarts) and CPU is gettin really really hot. U9 and U11 (level translators) look burnt :(
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  • [17:50:11] <suihkulokki> ldesnogu: yes, that comment is quite scary indeed..
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  • [18:10:38] <mru> good afternoon
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  • [18:40:33] <koen> good morning all
  • [18:43:09] <koen> any news on hangs and crashes?
  • [18:45:00] <denix> morning
  • [18:45:08] <dirk2> koen: on serial hang, khasim mentioned that he might will have look to it this week
  • [18:45:52] <dirk2> koen: and sakoman mentioned that he doesn't has this with his custom board, which has console at uart3, too
  • [18:49:39] <koen> nice that people are looking at it
  • [18:57:00] <koen> what was the oprofila scare about?
  • [18:57:14] <koen> my backlog is liimited
  • [18:59:00] <dirk2> I think somebody asked if somebody uses oprofile. Complete backlog readable at N810, too: http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2008-07-28
  • [18:59:29] <mru> I've been using oprofile quite a bit
  • [18:59:46] <mru> the rs232 hangs stopped at some point
  • [19:00:14] <mru> don't know whether it was a kernel upgrade of because I disabled everything not strictly needed
  • [19:08:26] <koen> later all
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  • [19:43:40] <Crofton> I wish the quantity available would update so we could track sales :)
  • [19:44:06] <ds2> anyone know what's the pool of boards available?
  • [19:45:48] <jkridner|work> I hope to find out what it is near the end of the day too. :)
  • [19:46:16] <Crofton> if possible, let us know :)
  • [19:46:38] <ds2> was there a press guy issued from a Mr Darwin or from Darwin, CA this morning?
  • [19:46:51] <ds2> press release from a guy named Mr Darwin
  • [19:46:54] <ds2> arggggggg
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  • [20:32:36] <jkridner|work> mru: sorry, http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8479495970.html, did FFmpeg wrong.
  • [20:38:08] <mru> don't worry, we won't sue you ;-)
  • [20:42:41] <jkridner|work> I think they did better when I didn't talk to them.
  • [20:43:33] <mru> oh well...
  • [20:43:46] <mru> my main concern right now is the neon lockup issue
  • [20:44:54] <mru> is it possible to get a final word from TI on which cortex-a8 revision is used?
  • [20:45:46] <mru> the trm says r1p1, the config register says r1p2, yet it exhibits lockups that could be explained by a hardware bug supposedly fixed in r1p2
  • [20:46:15] <mru> so we're a little confused
  • [20:51:41] <jkridner|work> it is r1p1
  • [20:51:58] <mru> so the id register is wrong?
  • [20:52:08] <jkridner|work> yes.
  • [20:52:18] <mru> how does that happen?
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  • [21:18:35] <cbrake> the beagleboard OTG port -- is that high speed or just full speed?
  • [21:18:48] <ds2> HS/FS/LS
  • [21:19:13] <cbrake> ds2: very nice :-)
  • [21:19:25] <ds2> *nod*
  • [21:19:58] <ds2> the OMAP3's would make such a nice processor for a Linux watch
  • [21:20:06] <cbrake> ds2: heh
  • [21:20:28] <ds2> the PM features at least provides for a CHANCE to power it off a CR2032
  • [21:20:50] <ds2> and the POP memory can allow a decent amount to fit a watch package
  • [21:22:19] <mru> but where do you fit an HD display?
  • [21:23:26] <ds2> I'll worry about it when they make a HD OLED display ;)
  • [21:24:04] <ds2> I'll settle for a SD OLED display at this point
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  • [21:40:27] <Beagle1> hi!
  • [21:40:31] <Beagle1> someone here?
  • [21:40:52] <mru> that depends
  • [21:40:57] <Beagle1> :-)
  • [21:41:53] <Beagle1> I am a swiss guy and observe the development of beagleboard from the website since several weeks
  • [21:43:12] <Beagle1> I saw that boards are now sold by Digi-Key and will most probably buy one. The only point which still prevents me is the lack of network suppport (Ethernet)
  • [21:43:29] <mru> you can use a usb ethernet adapter
  • [21:44:09] <Beagle1> do someone on channel know if networking can be rather simply be integrated on beagle? with a USB network adapter for example
  • [21:44:28] <Beagle1> any experience whith such a configuration?
  • [21:45:37] <bjdooks> if anyone is going to add ethernet, the DM9000 range is a good generic-bus interface one
  • [21:48:54] <Beagle1> thanks for the hint bjdooks
  • [21:51:49] <Beagle1> OK then one board for me!
  • [21:55:54] <bjdooks> hmm, i should run through cleaning up these headers
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  • [22:13:22] <CyruzDraxs> Yay! The IRC link works now. ;)
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  • [22:45:26] <bernrdo> beagle board still fried :( ... pin 16 of the rs232 transceiver (SN65C3221E) is at 5V when it should be at 3.3V since it's directly hooked up to the 3.3V rail. Something's messed up :D If the entire 3.3V rail is at 5V, that would explain not only why nothing's workin but also why the OMAP is getting extremely hot within a few minutes of power-up. Still troubleshooting with scope & diagrams, if anybody has any input, hit me up :)
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  • [23:42:06] <ds2> where is the tarball with the TI kernel that works perfectly with DVI-D output?
  • [23:44:41] <ds2> I guess that is the posted 2.6.22.18 kernel
  • [23:57:34] <CyruzDraxs> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/461f147c8f218858
  • [23:58:44] <CyruzDraxs> The latest Linux-OMAP on GIT should have everything working.
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  • [23:59:50] <ds2> everything? heheh I think not